What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

[dreadmau5]

I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.

If you are not living next to a fishing port, and used to shop from the local fishmonger then probably most of your fish, and other swimming/crawling see-stuff came from an industrial fish farm, where they using quite similar methods like in a "chicken factory".

I buy fish in the local market, fisherman here just take the fish out of the sea, he does not breed them or is actually limiting their freedom as long as they aren't taken out of water.

[ThePrinceofTea]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

http://vegaprocity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/dietarydifferences.jpg

That diagram is a bit funny. Bears and rats are both considered (according to their natural diet) as omnivores, however their teeth couldn't be more different. According to what we know about our ancestors diet, most hominids never been clearly herbi- or frugivores. Even our most closely related "relatives" the chimps are hunting for other primates. (BTW gorillas and orangutans are not meat eaters but they are eating considerable amounts of insects and eggs, so they are also consuming animal proteins.)
Actually the best argument against veganism is the B12 vitamin. Vitamin B12 is an absolutely essential thing, to keep our machine ticking. There are plenty of B12 in meat, but scarce in plants therefore vegans need vitamin supplements. Same thing applies to iron, iodine, zinc, calcium, vitamin D, Omega fatty acids, and so on. So, if being vegan is so natural, fine and dandy and we don't need no stinkin' meat then why they have to take artificial stuff like vitamin and mineral pills?
I think this chart is BS, and the author(s) cherry picked a few things to support their claims, but ignored a lot more what doesn't fit to their views.

the real question is : what do aliens eat...

second question at which point there isn't enough trace mineral to sustain human life on earth? burning the dead may be the only solution to disperse... solient green is untasty.

I prefer wild fish, there is a better pollution dispersion. you eat farmed fish... you get mono-accumulation quickly. Unless they are feeded with quality feed, but most of the time it's sewer sludge recompacted with rest of fishes. (again thx RT).

the euro trash would never have told us.

[WhatTheGox]

I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.

So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...

What fish can you eat which are surely from the sea? - and i dont mean the ones you catch yourself.  I know salmon is from a farm pretty much always.

[dreadmau5]

I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.

So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...

http://egyfodder.com/Files/Images/512%D9%85%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%20%D9%81%D9%89%20%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA.jpg

What fish can you eat which are surely from the sea? - and i dont mean the ones you catch yourself.  I know salmon is from a farm pretty much always.

for the sake of completeness, i don't eat salmon

[beepboopbeep]

I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.

So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...

What fish can you eat which are surely from the sea? - and i dont mean the ones you catch yourself.  I know salmon is from a farm pretty much always.

I don't think they farm raise halibut, do they? You can always go fishing as well.

[dreadmau5]

You can always go fishing as well.

Or simply go to a local market near the sea

[Come-from-Beyond]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans?

Save a cow, eat a vegan.

[ThePrinceofTea]

you can always ask your fishmonger more data about what he sells... and if doesn't cooperate, not buy . we want moar data S: bender (fish oil, or palm oil?). catched fish vs farmed fish

[Beliathon]

refer to https://libcom.org/library/social-anarchism--lifestyle-anarchism-murray-bookchin

[ThePrinceofTea]

refer to https://libcom.org/library/social-anarchism--lifestyle-anarchism-murray-bookchin

no opinion(s)? only copy-paste?

[BADecker]

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Did you mean somebody from the star Vega when you said "Vegan?"

 

[Spendulus]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?

So if I grill some vegans, do I need any sides?

[sotisoti]

Veganism is good, it's just that you need to get enough vitamin B12. Being a vegetarian for 8 years++, I have cut milk and I hardly eat eggs nowadays but let's see

[Tyrantt]

It's ok to be vegetarian or vegan for health reasons or any other than being a hippie. Also, posting stupid siht like that chart is what I love about them hc vegans and also, arguing in person is amazing. I remember my brother, who is a biologist, was arguing with some vegan how humans arent evolved to eat meat.

[Drago2016]

Veganism is good, it's just that you need to get enough vitamin B12. Being a vegetarian for 8 years++, I have cut milk and I hardly eat eggs nowadays but let's see

I think that not everyone can give up the food of animal origin. I like to eat meat, and I can not imagine a diet without this product

[Zz]

we are designed to eat meat, i do feel bad for the farm animals but not bad enough that i'd accept being weak and skinny like plant eaters.
I think that not everyone can give up the food of animal origin.
I voted YES. I know of people who have cured various ailments by going vegan, I believe it can be quite healthy.

[coolcoinz]

we are designed to eat meat, i do feel bad for the farm animals but not bad enough that i'd accept being weak and skinny like plant eaters.
I think that not everyone can give up the food of animal origin.
I voted YES. I know of people who have cured various ailments by going vegan, I believe it can be quite healthy.

So, on one hand you wouldn't accept being a skinny plant eater, but you voted "yes" as if you'd consider becoming one?
You are one strange individual.

On topic, I like meat and I wouldn't go vegan. I don't mind if other people are as long as they aren't trying to push me into veganism or make me feel guilty.

[fiscorcle]

I don't know how people can live on vegetables in life alone.

[Sithara007]

I don't know how people can live on vegetables in life alone.

ROFL... my thoughts as well. For the past many millions of years (ever since the humans evolved as a separate species), humans have been eating vegetables, as well as meat. Pure vegetarianism is a very recent ideology. It is like going against nature.

[Daniel91]

I respect their decision and life style.
They don't harm others and generally they are positive and friendly people.
I have a few vegan friends and I respect them.
Some of them became vegans because of sickness.
It's seems that their health is better now.
Generally, I think that it's natural to eat meat to, not just vegetables
Look for examples nature, big animals eat small animals, like lions.
It's natural order.