What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

[WhatTheGox]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?

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[MakingMoneyHoney]

I believe strongly that we have a right to eat meat.

I believe strongly that our meat is usually being messed with, with GMO feed, and hormones, etc, and it makes me sick to think about what we could be putting in our bodies. I'm trying to wean myself off of meat, but still occasionally eat chicken.

[Snail2]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

[saddampbuh]

we are designed to eat meat, i do feel bad for the farm animals but not bad enough that i'd accept being weak and skinny like plant eaters

[thinkinger]

we are designed to eat meat, i do feel bad for the farm animals but not bad enough that i'd accept being weak and skinny like plant eaters

i agree.thinking of being vegan is the beginning of foolness  and being vegan is the complete form of foolness.

[WhatTheGox]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

[protokol]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

[acroman08]

Vegan can be a delicious meal but im not going to do it for the rest of my life, going vegan doesnt mean your going to be healthy anyways.
so id rather eat both so i can be benefit from the nutrients they give.

[acroman08]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

Funny they skip about the use of our canines? this chart is made for a unwinnable argument again`ts meat lovers.

[BADecker]

Note that in the diagram, below, humans are almost exactly the same as frugivores. This match is Biblically correct. In the Beginning, God commanded people to eat fruit (tomatoes are fruit). He didn't seem to say anything about vegetables or animals. Yet, after the Great Flood of Noah's day, God told Noah that people can eat animals, as well.

Presently, people's digestive systems are designed to digest fruit or meat best. We can, and should eat various forms of vegetables, grasses, and herbs in small quantities, according to what our individual systems can handle, mostly as digestive tract stimulants, but also for phytonutrients and some trace minerals.

Definitely, if we can find a source of extremely healthy fruits and vegetables, where we don't need the special nutritional help that we get from eating meat, this would be best.

Warning to meat eaters. Eating excessive amounts of meats can be habit forming, and can cause bad health if fruit and vegetables are not consumed, or only consumed in very small quantities. Older adults should be especially wary about consuming large amounts of processed milk.

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

Funny they skip about the use of our canines? this chart is made for a unwinnable argument again`ts meat lovers.

[WhatTheGox]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

I guess the vegans would argue that the animal still gets killed at some point in their life even if free range against their will.  Probably in a period of being in their prime also.  Just saying.  Agree on some of the points for sure.

Currently im mostly a pescetarian fwiw but had a chicken burger a month ago 


So the overall feeling here is that the chart is total horsecrap?

[BADecker]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

I guess the vegans would argue that the animal still gets killed at some point in their life even if free range against their will.  Probably in a period of being in their prime also.  Just saying.  Agree on some of the points for sure.

Currently im mostly a pescetarian fwiw but had a chicken burger a month ago 


So the overall feeling here is that the chart is total horsecrap?

Cats eat grass. Yes they do. They are meat eaters, but they eat grass at times for enzymes and phytonutrients. You can vary your diet and still be the kind of being that falls into a specific group... especial if you are a human, and have free will, rather than being controlled by instinct.

[Daniel91]

I respect their opinion and belief but also expect that they respect my opinion and that don't try to force people around them to follow their life style or give them ''guilt'' feeling because they are responsible for ''killing animals''.
I don't like such attitude and sometimes they act as some religious sect, pushing their agenda and don't accepting other people's opinions.

[acroman08]

Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat . A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

I guess the vegans would argue that the animal still gets killed at some point in their life even if free range against their will.  Probably in a period of being in their prime also.  Just saying.  Agree on some of the points for sure.

Currently im mostly a pescetarian fwiw but had a chicken burger a month ago  


So the overall feeling here is that the chart is total horsecrap?

Cats eat grass. Yes they do. They are meat eaters, but they eat grass at times for enzymes and phytonutrients. You can vary your diet and still be the kind of being that falls into a specific group... especial if you are a human, and have free will, rather than being controlled by instinct.

Yup, thats what my cat did when he got into a fight and got wounded in his neck (it was pretty nasty) and when I was gonna take to the vet he left house for a week.
And then i saw him eating some grass next to our neighbor.

[thinkinger]

I respect their opinion and belief but also expect that they respect my opinion and that don't try to force people around them to follow their life style or give them ''guilt'' feeling because they are responsible for ''killing animals''.
I don't like such attitude and sometimes they act as some religious sect, pushing their agenda and don't accepting other people's opinions.

i agree with this. and when im not respected on this subject , i think i dont want to be a fool by being forced by a herd of fools so i reject. it is everyones own choice and problem

[Losvienleg]

Someone that don't eat meat is just an hippie. And hippies are like faggots : unnaturals !  And as you know, everything that is unnatural need to be cleaned... Maybe you'll tell I'm hard, but go tell to the fox that he has no right to eat rabbits ! That's just ridicule !

[Betwrong]

What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?

Some of my friends gone vegan. So now I know there are two types of vegans: the first one includes those who do not eat meat and all meat related products for their reasons but they do not enforce their ideology; the second one includes those who can't help but enforce their views on everyone around.

I can easily get along with the first type. I respect their views and I never eat meat if they can watch I'm eating and they never talk about  "poor animals which get slaughtered by evil humans".

And with the second type ... Well, we are not friends anymore.

[fuddudle]

I was brought up a vegan, but since living away from parents, i've become a regular meat eater.

I must say, i hate being skinny and that's something that parents don't tend to think about too much for a growing lad!

[TheIrishman]

Someone that don't eat meat is just an hippie. And hippies are like faggots : unnaturals !  And as you know, everything that is unnatural need to be cleaned... Maybe you'll tell I'm hard, but go tell to the fox that he has no right to eat rabbits ! That's just ridicule !

It's scum like you who needs to - and eventually will - be wiped out from the face of the earth. Anyways, I love these threads, they help my already huge ignore list to grow even more.

[TheIrishman]

So the overall feeling here is that the chart is total horsecrap?

No, it's just that people who know better are aware that:

1 - These forums are full of Russians and eastern Europeans with a stone age mindset.

2 - Even worse, these forums are also full of dog eating Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese and other subhuman Asian scum.

3 - There's no point in trying to argue with individuals from groups 1 and 2.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the holy rollers and other assorted religious fundamentalists. It still amazes me that crypto gave birth to a "community" that's essentially a disgusting living cesspool.