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October 09, 2015, 02:25:18 AM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.
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October 09, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

bitcoin-core is 99% about protecting the network by decentralising the blockchain.. so features will be a secondary thing.

much like banks SWIFT network has nothing to do with Visa's contactless NFC features.

but if you want the feature added to bitcoin-core, there is nothing stopping you talking to the dev team.. as im pretty sure that comments on this forum dont really register on the dev teams radar as a place to get feature requests..
plus because it's not really essential to the security of the network, maybe a donation to pay for their time would sway them to divert resources away from security and onto user-friendly.

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October 09, 2015, 03:00:16 AM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

What are you talking about? The Bitcoin core wallet? Which wallet? If you want a wallet that does this, the Feature is already available for almost all wallet. (Sign message)
And if you want offline signing, the feature is already available as well; https://bitcoinarmory.com/


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October 09, 2015, 11:13:06 AM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

What are you talking about? The Bitcoin core wallet? Which wallet? If you want a wallet that does this, the Feature is already available for almost all wallet. (Sign message)
And if you want offline signing, the feature is already available as well; https://bitcoinarmory.com/
I think by "write offline transaction" he means there should be a feature in which we can make or submit offline transactions from bitcoin core and by "Put offline transaction online" he means that once the system gets online then submit or sync the transactions with the netwok.
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October 09, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

What are you talking about? The Bitcoin core wallet? Which wallet? If you want a wallet that does this, the Feature is already available for almost all wallet. (Sign message)
And if you want offline signing, the feature is already available as well; https://bitcoinarmory.com/
I think by "write offline transaction" he means there should be a feature in which we can make or submit offline transactions from bitcoin core and by "Put offline transaction online" he means that once the system gets online then submit or sync the transactions with the netwok.

This is what I mean..

One should have an offline computer, I'd like to sign a transaction on it, burn it to a CD and post it onto the blockchain from my online computer.


Seeing as security is pretty much the #1 issue.. this seems rather important to me.
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October 09, 2015, 01:17:35 PM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

maybe a donation to pay for their time would sway them to divert resources away from security and onto user-friendly.

Really Franky .... We should not encourage bribery as a method to influence Bitcoin development  Wink Or should we sell out to the highest bidder, when crappy ideas pass their table?

spazzdla - The whole idea with a online network, is to process transactions on the fly on the Blockchain in real time.. If you want to do that, rather go for a off-chain solution like Xapo, where you can do as many

transactions as you want, and only pay a fee when it goes on-chain.  Roll Eyes

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October 09, 2015, 01:28:32 PM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

maybe a donation to pay for their time would sway them to divert resources away from security and onto user-friendly.

Really Franky .... We should not encourage bribery as a method to influence Bitcoin development  Wink Or should we sell out to the highest bidder, when crappy ideas pass their table?

spazzdla - The whole idea with a online network, is to process transactions on the fly on the Blockchain in real time.. If you want to do that, rather go for a off-chain solution like Xapo, where you can do as many

transactions as you want, and only pay a fee when it goes on-chain.  Roll Eyes


My issue isn't fees it's security.  I don't want to type my passprhase on an online computer.  I will look into Xapo though.
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October 09, 2015, 01:31:25 PM
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these features already available in few bitcoin wallet , even they have offline wallet feature for storage

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October 09, 2015, 01:40:43 PM
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This is what I mean..

One should have an offline computer, I'd like to sign a transaction on it, burn it to a CD and post it onto the blockchain from my online computer.

Isn't this exactly what offline signing as supported by, for example, Armory, is?

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October 09, 2015, 01:49:24 PM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

maybe a donation to pay for their time would sway them to divert resources away from security and onto user-friendly.

Really Franky .... We should not encourage bribery as a method to influence Bitcoin development  Wink Or should we sell out to the highest bidder, when crappy ideas pass their table?

spazzdla - The whole idea with a online network, is to process transactions on the fly on the Blockchain in real time.. If you want to do that, rather go for a off-chain solution like Xapo, where you can do as many

transactions as you want, and only pay a fee when it goes on-chain.  Roll Eyes


its not bribery.. its realizing that if its something you cannot do yourself (submit code to the github), then you pay someone to do it for you.
otherwise demanding people do something without payment, is a form of slavery.

'bribery' is to coerce, 'payment' is to pay for services offered.

i agree that the fundamental security of the network protocol should not be a matter of financial debate. but secondary features that do not affect the network, and would take the dev teams time away from the fundamentals. should be paid for

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October 09, 2015, 02:53:14 PM
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This is what I mean..

One should have an offline computer, I'd like to sign a transaction on it, burn it to a CD and post it onto the blockchain from my online computer.

Isn't this exactly what offline signing as supported by, for example, Armory, is?

maybe he want this to work directly with core, without the need to download a specific spv client for any new feature
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October 09, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
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This is what I mean..

One should have an offline computer, I'd like to sign a transaction on it, burn it to a CD and post it onto the blockchain from my online computer.

Isn't this exactly what offline signing as supported by, for example, Armory, is?

maybe he want this to work directly with core, without the need to download a specific spv client for any new feature

This.  I don't want to have 15 different wallets for 15 different reasons.

I use bitaddress.org and core, would be nice if that is all I would have to use.
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October 09, 2015, 03:02:29 PM
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I agree, if Bitcoin Core wallet doesn't have this feature then it should definitely be added, Electrum has it and I use it, this way you keep all your funds safe in the offline wallet and when you want to make a transaction, you make it, sign it and take it to the online electrum and broadcast it from there.

 

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October 09, 2015, 03:05:50 PM
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Use Electrum/Armory/MultiBit
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October 09, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
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This is what I mean..

One should have an offline computer, I'd like to sign a transaction on it, burn it to a CD and post it onto the blockchain from my online computer.

Isn't this exactly what offline signing as supported by, for example, Armory, is?

maybe he want this to work directly with core, without the need to download a specific spv client for any new feature

This.  I don't want to have 15 different wallets for 15 different reasons.

I use bitaddress.org and core, would be nice if that is all I would have to use.

if your going to use an offline PC. there is no need for bitcoin-core on it. as you will never download the blockchain.
instead you can have some code that you simply type in the funded privkey and then the destination and amount.. to create the offline tx

bitcoin core is about the network/protocol security of the blockchain. and offline PC's dont need to worry about that as they never online.

so much easier to have a different program make your offline tx, put it on cd. then on the online pc, paste it to a mining pools api..

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This is what I mean..

One should have an offline computer, I'd like to sign a transaction on it, burn it to a CD and post it onto the blockchain from my online computer.

Isn't this exactly what offline signing as supported by, for example, Armory, is?

maybe he want this to work directly with core, without the need to download a specific spv client for any new feature

This.  I don't want to have 15 different wallets for 15 different reasons.

I use bitaddress.org and core, would be nice if that is all I would have to use.

if your going to use an offline PC. there is no need for bitcoin-core on it. as you will never download the blockchain.
instead you can have some code that you simply type in the funded privkey and then the destination and amount.. to create the offline tx

bitcoin core is about the network/protocol security of the blockchain. and offline PC's dont need to worry about that as they never online.

so much easier to have a different program make your offline tx, put it on cd. then on the online pc, paste it to a mining pools api..

I need to learn that other program to do this..
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October 09, 2015, 04:58:43 PM
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I need to learn that other program to do this..

google has the answers.. but just be sure to know what you are asking.
for a transaction to be made you need to know the tx history of your funds to be able to send them out. so on a offline PC that info wont be available..

this might help you a bit
https://strongcoin.com/blog/the_easiest_way_to_create_secure_offline_bitcoin_transactions

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October 09, 2015, 05:17:24 PM
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I need to learn that other program to do this..

google has the answers.. but just be sure to know what you are asking.
for a transaction to be made you need to know the tx history of your funds to be able to send them out. so on a offline PC that info wont be available..

this might help you a bit
https://strongcoin.com/blog/the_easiest_way_to_create_secure_offline_bitcoin_transactions

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October 09, 2015, 06:16:41 PM
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Under file it should have "Write offline transaction" and "Put offline transaction online" or something along those words.  Already has sign/verify message, sweet feature.

bitcoin-core is 99% about protecting the network by decentralising the blockchain.. so features will be a secondary thing.

much like banks SWIFT network has nothing to do with Visa's contactless NFC features.

but if you want the feature added to bitcoin-core, there is nothing stopping you talking to the dev team.. as im pretty sure that comments on this forum dont really register on the dev teams radar as a place to get feature requests..
plus because it's not really essential to the security of the network, maybe a donation to pay for their time would sway them to divert resources away from security and onto user-friendly.

But you can't fall under the trap of keeping Bitcoin Core as a super limited software with basic features forever if you want to give people an incentive to run full nodes. Sure, it should stay basic and extremely solid, but make it more usable and user friendly as well.
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October 09, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
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How about converts BTC to USD so you only have to enter the $ amount and not the BTC amount...
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