Paypal just bent me over

[lebing]

No, they see the sharp increase in funds in the account, that flags you. If I were you I would have them do all sorts of updates on the account, call them and talk to reps and ask them to tweak the mailing address or whatever. This will push you into a different status (I have done it before when they put a hold on my account.) and you will get an email saying you will be notified when the funds are available. And that 180 days will become 45.

Thanks for the tip - to be honest I'm not really worried about it. I'm thinking about it as an investment in a CD with a 6 month turnaround at 100%. Not so bad when you think about it like that =)

[lebing]

There is a way to sell BTC on eBay. Without all the fees. Especially without PayPal (and the concomitant risk of chargebacks and fraud, since PayPal is the #1 choice of financial criminals worldwide).

Create listings in Everything Else>Test Auctions>General. There are guidelines for test auctions, that make your listing invalid; nobody bidding on it will get you assessed fees or any liability. Make the listing title start with "TEST- " and in the listing itself, put "TEST - DO NOT BID". Disable PayPal in the payment options, and check some other electronic payment method (that you don't necessarily need to have), as well as Pay On Pickup.

Buyers will ideally just send you eBay messages to work out payment offsite, or you can insert an image with your contact details on it. Face-to-face, cash in mail, and Liberty Reserve are the most secure options for sellers to accept payment.

Here's an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230868571478

Awesome, thanks brother. Much appreciated!

[jasinlee]

No, they see the sharp increase in funds in the account, that flags you. If I were you I would have them do all sorts of updates on the account, call them and talk to reps and ask them to tweak the mailing address or whatever. This will push you into a different status (I have done it before when they put a hold on my account.) and you will get an email saying you will be notified when the funds are available. And that 180 days will become 45.

Thanks for the tip - to be honest I'm not really worried about it. I'm thinking about it as an investment in a CD with a 6 month turnaround at 100%. Not so bad when you think about it like that =)

Yeah I agree, same way I looked at it, havent taken the time to verify another account either. BTW Paypal does not officially check any documentation you send them. They have asked me for proof of ownership from my supplier for things I have sold from around my house before, I just scanned a target receipt and sent it to them and they approved it. Its all for posturing and finding ways to hold onto your funds longer nothing more.

[lebing]

No, they see the sharp increase in funds in the account, that flags you. If I were you I would have them do all sorts of updates on the account, call them and talk to reps and ask them to tweak the mailing address or whatever. This will push you into a different status (I have done it before when they put a hold on my account.) and you will get an email saying you will be notified when the funds are available. And that 180 days will become 45.

Thanks for the tip - to be honest I'm not really worried about it. I'm thinking about it as an investment in a CD with a 6 month turnaround at 100%. Not so bad when you think about it like that =)

Yeah I agree, same way I looked at it, havent taken the time to verify another account either. BTW Paypal does not officially check any documentation you send them. They have asked me for proof of ownership from my supplier for things I have sold from around my house before, I just scanned a target receipt and sent it to them and they approved it. Its all for posturing and finding ways to hold onto your funds longer nothing more.

Lol that is ballsy.

I assumed as much about them holding onto funds.

[jasinlee]

Best pic related to this subject I ever found.



In the years I have gotten paypal accounts verified, then gotten myself frozen, limited, whatever so many times, and ebay always loves me forever. I think the only business paypal gets now days is from older people who dont know of other options and scammers. If they ask you for documentation though, just send it and save yourself the headache. You gotta remember they cant contact these companies you submit documentation relating to you since they are not the person who the accounts belong to so privacy laws protect you. The people who work there are pretty lazy from what I have seen and just pushing it through the system seems to make them happy since you get off the phone.

[beeteecee]

Got my account closed to day, too. What a bunch of morons they are.

I've got like something left there and they say it will be available in 180 days. But I've read controversial posts. Some say they return, some say they don't. Any ideas?

[myrkul]

Any ideas?

Don't use PayPal?

[beeteecee]

Any ideas?

Don't use PayPal?

Funny. I mean the 180 day thing. Sure thing I won't use them again. Looking for a good alternative now

[SgtSpike]

Got my account closed to day, too. What a bunch of morons they are.

I've got like something left there and they say it will be available in 180 days. But I've read controversial posts. Some say they return, some say they don't. Any ideas?

What exactly did you do?

[beeteecee]

Sold bitcoins for PayPal. I had no chargebacks, however a couple of transactions were on temporary hold by PP for reviewal. One was released because the buyer confirmed it.

The very first transactions were probably the reason as some buyers wrote their bitcoin addresses in notes. After those I asked them to write that they were payments for SEO services, etc. So I didn't reallt do anything super bad.

[myrkul]

Sold bitcoins for PayPal. I had no chargebacks, however a couple of transactions were on temporary hold by PP for reviewal. One was released because the buyer confirmed it.

The very first transactions were probably the reason as some buyers wrote their bitcoin addresses in notes. After those I asked them to write that they were payments for SEO services, etc. So I didn't reallt do anything super bad.

You didn't do anything "bad" at all. PayPal's just assholes. You can try that trick earlier to change the account around to shake the money lose, but that's the only suggestion I have for you.

[helloworld]

Any ideas?

Don't use PayPal?

Funny. I mean the 180 day thing. Sure thing I won't use them again. Looking for a good alternative now

Here is a good alternative to Paypal.

[adamas]

There is a way to sell BTC on eBay. Without all the fees. Especially without PayPal (and the concomitant risk of chargebacks and fraud, since PayPal is the #1 choice of financial criminals worldwide).
Create listings in Everything Else>Test Auctions>General. There are guidelines for test auctions, that make your listing invalid; nobody bidding on it will get you assessed fees or any liability. Make the listing title start with "TEST- " and in the listing itself, put "TEST - DO NOT BID". Disable PayPal in the payment options, and check some other electronic payment method (that you don't necessarily need to have), as well as Pay On Pickup.
Buyers will ideally just send you eBay messages to work out payment offsite, or you can insert an image with your contact details on it. Face-to-face, cash in mail, and Liberty Reserve are the most secure options for sellers to accept payment.
Here's an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230868571478

Dont you risk your egay account to be suspended?

[jasinlee]

Ebay will still let you use the site, just paypal stops letting you use them. Which is stupid since its the same company, but anyway, they always give the money back ... eventually. Just make sure you check in on it after 6 months.

[TheButterZone]

There is a way to sell BTC on eBay. Without all the fees. Especially without PayPal (and the concomitant risk of chargebacks and fraud, since PayPal is the #1 choice of financial criminals worldwide).
Create listings in Everything Else>Test Auctions>General. There are guidelines for test auctions, that make your listing invalid; nobody bidding on it will get you assessed fees or any liability. Make the listing title start with "TEST- " and in the listing itself, put "TEST - DO NOT BID". Disable PayPal in the payment options, and check some other electronic payment method (that you don't necessarily need to have), as well as Pay On Pickup.
Buyers will ideally just send you eBay messages to work out payment offsite, or you can insert an image with your contact details on it. Face-to-face, cash in mail, and Liberty Reserve are the most secure options for sellers to accept payment.
Here's an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230868571478

Dont you risk your egay account to be suspended?

I would think less chance of it than the people who sell BTC in the non-test categories.

[adamas]

Dont you risk your egay account to be suspended?

I would think less chance of it than the people who sell BTC in the non-test categories.

The chance doesnt seem to be that slim: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230868571478
[Item 230868571478 is no longer available]

[adamas]

What do you think of this PP alternative? http://www.pppay.com/demo.htm

[myrkul]

Dont you risk your egay account to be suspended?

I would think less chance of it than the people who sell BTC in the non-test categories.

The chance doesnt seem to be that slim: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230868571478
[Item 230868571478 is no longer available]

I logged out and it's still there. WTF are you talking about?

Still there for me, too.
Btw, this line is hilarious: "I accept cash in mail, or Liberty Reserve (fee $1.43 for all 8 BTC), but absolutely no PayPal - the #1 choice of financial criminals worldwide."

[adamas]

I logged out and it's still there. WTF are you talking about?

i

[TheButterZone]

Sorry for being harsh. Apparently everywhere but the U.S. was excluded from shipping, so it hid the listing from all non-U.S. IPs. It should be visible now.