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October 11, 2015, 04:14:11 AM |
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The problem with banks is the same problem as governments. They have long had a strangle hold on money. They control each and every aspect of it.
Suddenly, the notion of blockchain takes away some of their power, and its baffling to them because they will always want centralized control.
Ironically, they have no way of really doing something public without exposing how much manipulation they need to achieve what they want.
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October 11, 2015, 07:48:31 PM |
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2% of the population
Do you really think that there's 160 million Bitcoin users?
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October 11, 2015, 08:51:33 PM |
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blockchain is literally a buzzword like 'cloud' that people use to sucker money away from CEOs who read shitty magazines, no one will ever seriously use a blockchain, with or without bit coins
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October 15, 2015, 11:54:54 PM |
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For us ita about decentralization. For the banks they are trying to save money and understand decentralization. They want to get ahead of the curve. For example KODAK used to be a FILM company, now they are a CAMERA company.
The banks are trying to stay ahead of the the curve. They dont give a damn about bitcoin.
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October 16, 2015, 07:28:10 AM |
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blockchain is literally a buzzword like 'cloud' that people use to sucker money away from CEOs who read shitty magazines, no one will ever seriously use a blockchain, with or without bit coins
you'd be surprised. banks are most likely seriously looking into ways to use blockchain technology for their own benefit, however it won't do them much good because the strength of the blockchain is in the decentralized nature. Centralizing it defeats the purpose.
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October 16, 2015, 07:31:10 AM |
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2% of the population
Do you really think that there's 160 million Bitcoin users? it's not what he meant, he said that in the case there were 2% of population pro bitcoin, it would still not matter for the bank i presume we need 1B people to think that bitcoin as reached its adoption
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October 16, 2015, 08:30:18 AM |
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blockchain is literally a buzzword like 'cloud' that people use to sucker money away from CEOs who read shitty magazines, no one will ever seriously use a blockchain, with or without bit coins
you'd be surprised. banks are most likely seriously looking into ways to use blockchain technology for their own benefit, however it won't do them much good because the strength of the blockchain is in the decentralized nature. Centralizing it defeats the purpose. It will optimize their internal processes, they will be able to cut out middle men acting as settlement and clearing houses and reduce their costs. So the Blockchain in a permissioned and centralized way will have some benefits.But it will not have any benefits for the average jou out there who may have a bank account there. Or does anybody here really believe banks will lower their customer's fees?! However these are just some cosmetics they are doing to delay their own demise. Only a real open and decentralized Blockchain technolgy with an valued token like Bitcoin will have a massive and global disruptive breakthrough.
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2% of the population
Do you really think that there's 160 million Bitcoin users? 16 or 6 million users of cryptocoin might be appropriate. I doubt more than 6 million people heard about bitcoin.
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October 16, 2015, 10:31:10 AM |
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2% of the population
Do you really think that there's 160 million Bitcoin users? 16 or 6 million users of cryptocoin might be appropriate. there are currently only 3M, and this number is not official by any means, only a rough estimation i think we are much less than what we were with the doge mania
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October 16, 2015, 11:13:41 AM |
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I hear bankers saying we don't find bitcoin interesting , but we are interested in blockchain technology. Which I find a paradox...
Of course you don't like bitcoin because you lose the power to mint it yourselves. You would rather use blockchain technology and start an altcoin yourselves.
They don't want an altcoin, they just want to use blockchain technology for storing ledger information, verification, archiving, authentication/validating signatures. An altcoin is pointless to them. The Coin is just one possible application of this great technology. This is the whole point. People seen to forget that a bank is a hell tons of servers that need to share data, have consensus and other distributed service problems. And the blockchain solves them pretty well.
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October 16, 2015, 02:40:40 PM |
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When banks cannot prevent the booming of bitcoin, they will adopt it
Would you want your bitcoins stored in the vaults of some bank that can freeze your holdings whenever they feel like and for whatever reason? The banks will never adopt bitcoin, because those that use bitcoins only use bitcoins and other crypto currencies so that they can completely bypass the banks and conduct frictionless, semi anonymous and peer to peer transactions The banks just cannot compete with the fact that my qt client does EVERYTHING a bank can do, and more... and also gives users the ultimate control over their finances
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October 16, 2015, 03:34:55 PM |
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When banks cannot prevent the booming of bitcoin, they will adopt it
Would you want your bitcoins stored in the vaults of some bank that can freeze your holdings whenever they feel like and for whatever reason? The banks will never adopt bitcoin, because those that use bitcoins only use bitcoins and other crypto currencies so that they can completely bypass the banks and conduct frictionless, semi anonymous and peer to peer transactions The banks just cannot compete with the fact that my qt client does EVERYTHING a bank can do, and more... and also gives users the ultimate control over their finances I will use a bank when I need to borrow bitcoin from it. I will also save some to earn some interest with bank.
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October 16, 2015, 03:44:52 PM Last edit: December 21, 2015, 05:53:33 PM by BantamSystems |
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I will use a bank when I need to borrow bitcoin from it. I will also save some to earn some interest with bank.
The last time banks were entrusted to look after commodities, they began to say "hey, forget about lugging around all of this heavy gold... Here, use this paper instead... It's called "currency," it's as good as gold.." Then they started loaning out more of this paper than they had gold.... which forced them to unpeg this currency from gold, because "gold is evil.." which then made banksters the rulers of the free world. So I doubt anyone would hand their bitcoins over to traditional bankers, we'd be setting the clock back about 400 years if we were to do that
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October 16, 2015, 11:59:34 PM |
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I hear bankers saying we don't find bitcoin interesting , but we are interested in blockchain technology. Which I find a paradox...
Of course you don't like bitcoin because you lose the power to mint it yourselves. You would rather use blockchain technology and start an altcoin yourselves.
They don't want an altcoin, they just want to use blockchain technology for storing ledger information, verification, archiving, authentication/validating signatures. An altcoin is pointless to them. The Coin is just one possible application of this great technology. This is the whole point. People seen to forget that a bank is a hell tons of servers that need to share data, have consensus and other distributed service problems. And the blockchain solves them pretty well. Pretty much, they could eventually move their data infrastructure to use a blockchain-like validation method, i'm just not how sure it will be changed, since there is not much need to get a miner fee, stable block rate, etc. It would make tracability and falsifying data harder. And more verification steps could be handled by a machine, less by a human. The other thing i'm wondering is how they would want to add correction to transactions. Chargeback, etc. Since the bank would be owning all the keys, they could force any transaction from anywhere to anywhere. The difference here is it would be properly logged.
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October 17, 2015, 01:59:48 AM |
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by taking money out of the banking system and putting it into Bitcoin, people are reclaiming the power over that value, in it's holding and it's transaction
it can be regarded as a 'radical' form of economic activism
Bitcoin is a different money system, not just a different way of doing the existing money system...
the fact that the banks are updating their IT doesn't change the nature or the rules of their business.
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October 17, 2015, 06:01:37 PM |
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by taking money out of the banking system and putting it into Bitcoin, people are reclaiming the power over that value, in it's holding and it's transaction
it can be regarded as a 'radical' form of economic activism
Bitcoin is a different money system, not just a different way of doing the existing money system...
the fact that the banks are updating their IT doesn't change the nature or the rules of their business.
Yes. Bitcoin is revolutionary. Banking will be an option in the future. Banking will always be required, there are services offered by them that cannot be offered by Bitcoin. Bitcoin has the strength and weakness of not being proprietary, which also mean all services comes without administrative powers over Bitcoin. However Banking with BTC integrated in the future, might give every services we could need with the best of both words.
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October 18, 2015, 12:09:08 AM |
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How to Disclose bank's private blockchain technology hoax ?
Dear banks, it's not about blockchain technology, it's about we don't want you controlling our money any more. ----- from reddit
The banking systems and their supporters (likely the governments) know this truth already , but they always try to hide it, and they try to find other "reasons" to make their offense against Bitcoin a little logical. But i believe they will fail just because people found in Bitcoin which they need and don't find it using other currencies
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October 18, 2015, 07:37:48 AM |
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How to Disclose bank's private blockchain technology hoax ?
Dear banks, it's not about blockchain technology, it's about we don't want you controlling our money any more. ----- from reddit
The banking systems and their supporters (likely the governments) know this truth already , but they always try to hide it, and they try to find other "reasons" to make their offense against Bitcoin a little logical. But i believe they will fail just because people found in Bitcoin which they need and don't find it using other currencies Bitcoin is not just because of block-chain. Block chain is the back end process which ensures the security of data base and recording of all the events of bitcoin environment. But the concepts and revolutions behind bitcoin creation is misunderstood by all the bankers as well as governments.
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The banks are big share holders of most of the large media conglomerates, and therefore have a lot of control over public opinion.
If they publicly promote bitcoin the currency, they are publicly promoting the end of the current financial systems - which would force depositors to lose confidence in the banks, which = bank runs. So instead of doing that, they are leaning towards belittling bitcoin's viability and, instead, promoting the viability of the blockchain which they themselves have already started to use in order to avoid the fees that SWIFT charges them for international remittance
This won't stop people from using bitcoin though, because the cats already out of the bag. In terms of having the MOST control over your personal finances, bitcoin and other crypto currencies reign supreme - and it's only a matter of time before the average man on the street works this out
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We nearly can't do anything about it, even tho if we can do something big. However it's not enough the give an impact on the Bank
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