B-Eleven sha-256 ASIC miner

[RichBC]

No not a first generation trying to be the first to the market, look at the S1 to the S7 all are 28nm, it really advanced a lot through time.

S1 is 55nm but I take your point. Could also be the value of Full Custom showing in the BM1385 ASIC?


Rich

[dunand]

Any update on the B-Eleven?

[RichBC]

Any update on the B-Eleven?

No nothing more. I emailed them the other day asking if there were any updates and in reply they pointed me at Sina microblogging  but could not find anything there.

Rich

[crazyearner]

Hi all!

Has anyone heard anything about B-ELEVEN ASIC miner? One russian site, 51ASIC.ru promises to sell it soon.



All that I found here is their own thread and something about B-Eleven cloud mining provider in Chinese section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1190324.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157590.0

Preliminary specs:

Hashrate: 3TH/s, 5TH/s or 10TH/s
Power consumption: 260 W/TH
Technology: 14nm
Price: $500 per TH/s

And here are some renders at bw.com website:

https://www.bw.com/pool/miner


Any opinions? Any details?

Sounds too good to be true with the power used. Also the people who made the threads in the quote ahve made maybe 1 or 2 posts and never been seen again. $500 per TH seems to be under cutting a lot of the other mines too. 14nm Technology used to lol id be surprised if this is really being used or actually made the equipment.

Each chip is capable of producing 34.6-63 GH/s, with a power consumption of 18 W based on a voltage range of 0.59-0.76 V. I will only believe such findings if theirs a unit being shown in real time and am around to see it live that it works or some company like bitmain or avalon pick it up or some company that people are buying from and not scam.

Sounds to good to be true more than likely is fake.

[Rabinovitch]

That reseller (51asic.ru) promised to provide one to me for testing and review once it will appear.  

[crazyearner]

That reseller (51asic.ru) promised to provide one to me for testing and review once it will appear.  

Have heard that so many times. Even I have done with a number of places who started up promised to send equipment to test and never sent anything out. Am guessing are still awaiting to have a test unit sent out. Even when a unit comes can just send a unit out and get a review done on it and then still never send equipment out to customers. But will be interesting to see if really get sent a unit out to review. How long as it been since you where told you will have one sent out and any comments or response on them sending out?

[RichBC]

 51ASIC.ru looks like a scam to me. However the miner is backed by BW.com / LK Group Limited and CHBTC. I would expect the Miner to be real, although they are still only showing renderings. They announced  0.87 BTC/TH so for the 3TH Miner that is 2.61 BTC for bulk orders. Individual prices have not been announced, also the exchange rate has moved a lot since then so would expect this price to change.


Rich

[HyperMega]

Hi all!

Has anyone heard anything about B-ELEVEN ASIC miner? One russian site, 51ASIC.ru promises to sell it soon.



All that I found here is their own thread and something about B-Eleven cloud mining provider in Chinese section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1190324.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157590.0

Preliminary specs:

Hashrate: 3TH/s, 5TH/s or 10TH/s
Power consumption: 260 W/TH
Technology: 14nm
Price: $500 per TH/s

And here are some renders at bw.com website:

https://www.bw.com/pool/miner


Any opinions? Any details?

Sounds too good to be true with the power used. Also the people who made the threads in the quote ahve made maybe 1 or 2 posts and never been seen again. $500 per TH seems to be under cutting a lot of the other mines too. 14nm Technology used to lol id be surprised if this is really being used or actually made the equipment.

Each chip is capable of producing 34.6-63 GH/s, with a power consumption of 18 W based on a voltage range of 0.59-0.76 V. I will only believe such findings if theirs a unit being shown in real time and am around to see it live that it works or some company like bitmain or avalon pick it up or some company that people are buying from and not scam.

Sounds to good to be true more than likely is fake.

0.26 J/GH @ $0.50/GH is too good to be true?

It is proven, that these kind of efficiency could be allready achieved based on 28nm ASICs, so it doesn't seem to be an outstanding 14nm design.
And why should one pay a higher price per GH as for a comparable 28nm miner?

[QuintLeo]

Sounds too good to be true with the power used. Also the people who made the threads in the quote ahve made maybe 1 or 2 posts and never been seen again. $500 per TH seems to be under cutting a lot of the other mines too. 14nm Technology used to lol id be surprised if this is really being used or actually made the equipment.

Each chip is capable of producing 34.6-63 GH/s, with a power consumption of 18 W based on a voltage range of 0.59-0.76 V. I will only believe such findings if theirs a unit being shown in real time and am around to see it live that it works or some company like bitmain or avalon pick it up or some company that people are buying from and not scam.

Sounds to good to be true more than likely is fake.

 Actually, the chip specs are competitive with the BM1385 in the Bitmain Antminer S7 on efficiency, and a hair better than the Avalon 6 chips.
 Nowhere near "too good to be true".

 $500 per TH would be MORE than Bitmain has been charging for the S7 by quite a bit, and somewhat more than for the Avalon 6.
 Not even in the BALLPARK of "too good to be true".


 BW.COM is part-owned by Lketc, of Dragon Miner fame - tends to lend legitimacy to the probability of the B-Eleven being a real unit fairly soon, per their announcements.

 It seems that the chip involved will be a non-custom 14nm design - leaving room for another generation of improvement and giving some EXPERIANCE at that process node, which might give the chipmaker a small head-start on the 14nm Full Custom generation over Bitmain (and WILL put them well ahead of Avalon given commentary out of those folks).

 There is still some question as to who is actually designing the chip - Lketc has a history of using Innosilicon chips in their miners, and Innosilicon let slip that their A3 14nm chip had been taped out some months back.


 I'd rate the probability of "fake" as pretty close to zero in this case, the only real questions in my mind about it are "when will it go on sale", "how much",  "what will be the exact details for TH and power usage", and "what sizes will it be available in".

[RichBC]

There is still some question as to who is actually designing the chip - Lketc has a history of using Innosilicon chips in their miners, and Innosilicon let slip that their A3 14nm chip had been taped out some months back.

On their Hash Investment page in the FAQ is this Question.

Will the coming 16nm mining machine affect the market of the 14nm mining machine?

With this Answer.

To be fair, the 14nm is the most powerful Intel chip, while Intel doesn’t offer OEM service and the Sumsung 14nm FinFET is more powerful than the TSMC 16nm.

I think there is more than one way the answer could be interpreted, however I interpret it as being they are using Samsung?


Rich

[Rabinovitch]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

[wlefever]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

Wow, that's awesome!  So actually on schedule, and we may very well see the 14 nm by January 2016. 

[philipma1957]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

chrome translation I see chips will be in near Christmas or New Years

If true gear will be at least 1 month after that.  Lets say on my birthday Jan 27th.

So it is a waiting game for now.

[notlist3d]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

chrome translation I see chips will be in near Christmas or New Years

If true gear will be at least 1 month after that.  Lets say on my birthday Jan 27th.

So it is a waiting game for now.

Very intersting is there anything that tells efficiency?  I was thinking on miner they listed multiple speeds.  So I'm really curious what they do with this miner.

Really want to know efficiency to.

[wlefever]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

chrome translation I see chips will be in near Christmas or New Years

If true gear will be at least 1 month after that.  Lets say on my birthday Jan 27th.

So it is a waiting game for now.

Very intersting is there anything that tells efficiency?  I was thinking on miner they listed multiple speeds.  So I'm really curious what they do with this miner.

Really want to know efficiency to.

If they can do the 260 W/TH they claim it's efficiency is .26 J/GH which is good, but not better than Bitmains 28nm BM1385.

Surely a 14nm chip would be more efficient than that, right?  I am sure that can be greatly improved upon in time.

[philipma1957]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

chrome translation I see chips will be in near Christmas or New Years

If true gear will be at least 1 month after that.  Lets say on my birthday Jan 27th.

So it is a waiting game for now.

Very intersting is there anything that tells efficiency?  I was thinking on miner they listed multiple speeds.  So I'm really curious what they do with this miner.

Really want to know efficiency to.

If they can do the 260 W/TH they claim it's efficiency is .26 J/GH which is good, but not better than Bitmains 28nm BM1385.

Surely a 14nm chip would be more efficient than that, right?  I am sure that can be greatly improved upon in time.

well bitmains s5 and s7 are both 28nm  and the s7 is much better then the s5.

so this is the first 14nm  the next one may have a big improvement not this one.

kind of makes me think they could be in trouble with this miner if it only gets down to .26 in a miner it will need to be very cheap price or just get the s-7

[RichBC]

Some news about B-alaven chips (please use some translation service). https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/9440-allrossiia-new-b-eleven-10ths-antminer-s7/page-7#entry335679

chrome translation I see chips will be in near Christmas or New Years

If true gear will be at least 1 month after that.  Lets say on my birthday Jan 27th.

So it is a waiting game for now.

Very intersting is there anything that tells efficiency?  I was thinking on miner they listed multiple speeds.  So I'm really curious what they do with this miner.

Really want to know efficiency to.

If they can do the 260 W/TH they claim it's efficiency is .26 J/GH which is good, but not better than Bitmains 28nm BM1385.

Surely a 14nm chip would be more efficient than that, right?  I am sure that can be greatly improved upon in time.

well bitmains s5 and s7 are both 28nm  and the s7 is much better then the s5.

so this is the first 14nm  the next one may have a big improvement not this one.

kind of makes me think they could be in trouble with this miner if it only gets down to .26 in a miner it will need to be very cheap price or just get the s-7

I read that it's not full custom, if so you might see the sort of difference between S5 & S7 when they are able to progress?

Rich

[megatron1337]

We need a low cost miners that can hash in the the tera's...  The S7 is great and all but it's so expensive..  I'm just a hobbyist miner but with the difficulty increasing all the time, it's starting to suck for us small guys 

[notlist3d]

We need a low cost miners that can hash in the the tera's...  The S7 is great and all but it's so expensive..  I'm just a hobbyist miner but with the difficulty increasing all the time, it's starting to suck for us small guys 

Actually some miners are already cheaper as higher BTC price.  This causes  the miners to be cheaper if you were holding onto BTC.  So that is good if holding already, if you are not holding it has no effect.

But i have a feeling "low cost" will not meet where you want it to.  If you want current gen miners you pay for it... and they hold value longer and you can even sell them one day when you go to get new.   If your wanting "low cost" you really need to have lower electricity and then can look at used miners.

[Rabinovitch]

Well, I have ordered a semi-professional noise meter and an IR-thermometer, because they have confirmed once again that they expect this miner will arrive soon.  Can't wait to get my hands on it.