Some fun and not so fun times at the MSI forum

[lophie]

care to share numbers? More heat is better for the upcoming winter  , but afterwards such info could be useful.

What numbers ? lol

-_-

like Memfreq before and after and heat before and after + Megahashes before and after! I certainly didn't mean how many ripe apples on a plastic tangerine tree on mars 

[deepceleron]

That whole thread is full of fail. They can't fathom GPGPU computing at all. OP is the only one with a coherent statement. It's likely a bunch of 14 year old Call Of Duty zitfaces. They would be completely [headexploded] by the thought of underclocking and undervolting a card to maximize it's energy efficiency per work, and aren't going to understand W ∝ V^2.

MSI: "tech support is a cost center, we'll just let dumbasses talk to each other in a forum so they don't call us".

The answer is no, you aren't going to damage your card, in fact you may extend it's life by reducing electromigration. There will just be underclocks and undervoltages where the card is no longer stable.

[Hippie Tech]

care to share numbers? More heat is better for the upcoming winter  , but afterwards such info could be useful.

What numbers ? lol

-_-

like Memfreq before and after and heat before and after + Megahashes before and after! I certainly didn't mean how many ripe apples on a plastic tangerine tree on mars  

LOL.. but I like farming on Mars. xD

I did the best I could with my temp guesstimates and tbh, I didn't notice if the mhash/s were affected. If it did, the +/- would have been minimal. I've gone as low as 600mhz on the memory but keep it at 750 because anything lower makes the system a little unstable when watching vids/ surfing the web.

As I said in that thread, the gpu and vrm temps dropped a minimum of 5-7C. The mobo/chipset is also down 3-5C.

I'm using Guiminer with the following flags.. -v -w128 -f70

That whole thread is full of fail. They can't fathom GPGPU computing at all. OP is the only one with a coherent statement. It's likely a bunch of 14 year old Call Of Duty zitfaces. They would be completely [headexploded] by the thought of underclocking and undervolting a card to maximize it's energy efficiency per work, and aren't going to understand W ∝ V^2.

MSI: "tech support is a cost center, we'll just let dumbasses talk to each other in a forum so they don't call us".

The answer is no, you aren't going to damage your card, in fact you may extend it's life by reducing electromigration. There will just be underclocks and undervoltages where the card is no longer stable.

I called tech support to complain and they didn't seem to care. At the start of the conversation I was told that the forum is run by some dudes at HQ and that the forum is 'unofficial'.

[AndrewBUD]

you should use cgminer instead of guiminer...

[Hippie Tech]

you should use cgminer instead of guiminer...

I may eventually try it but will stick with guiminer for now.

Judging from the other 7870s on the comparison chart, there does not seem to be much of a difference between the two.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#AMD_.28ATI.29

[AndrewBUD]

Stability, functionality

[Hippie Tech]

Ok.. ok.. AndrewBUD, as soon as the internet is hooked up, I'll try cg out on my dad's rig with his hobbled GTX 460se. :p

[AndrewBUD]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

[Hippie Tech]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

I'm the biggest BTC noooob !

I mean.. learning is FUN ! 

[philips]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

It does but you will get only something like 60Mh/s or less, totally worthless.

[Hippie Tech]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

It does but you will get only something like 60Mh/s or less, totally worthless.

Regardless, I know once he sees it going and understands BTC a bit more, he'll want to invest in a better gpu.

As if his email box isn't overkill enough, I'm going to recommend a 7850 and set it in solo mode for a while and hope his beginners luck pays off once more. ahha

pEACe

[AndrewBUD]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

I'm the biggest BTC noooob !

I mean.. learning is FUN ! 

Well.. I had no idea about bitcoin mining when I met you..... You mentioned it a bit.....About a week later I got in to it and it becomes very addictive.....

[AndrewBUD]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

It does but you will get only something like 60Mh/s or less, totally worthless.

Regardless, I know once he sees it going and understands BTC a bit more, he'll want to invest in a better gpu.

As if his email box isn't overkill enough, I'm going to recommend a 7850 and set it in solo mode for a while and hope his beginners luck pays off once more. ahha

pEACe

You;re going to Solomine bitcoins with a single 7850?

You crazy..... Might as well do PPS and get something out of it....

[Hippie Tech]

cgminer wont work with nvidia card.....

It does but you will get only something like 60Mh/s or less, totally worthless.

Regardless, I know once he sees it going and understands BTC a bit more, he'll want to invest in a better gpu.

As if his email box isn't overkill enough, I'm going to recommend a 7850 and set it in solo mode for a while and hope his beginners luck pays off once more. ahha

pEACe

You;re going to Solomine bitcoins with a single 7850?

You crazy..... Might as well do PPS and get something out of it....

Crazy ? Don't mind if I dooo !    Or do you mean "I just bought an Asus ST990fx" crazy ?  

If the days of gpu mining are numbered as some say they are, then one found block is all that is needed to cover the initial $550 cost of the build. The resale value of a 7850, or better, htpc would easily cover the cost of the gpu.

I'm running my 7870, 70-80% pool, 20-30% solo...

pEACe

[AndrewBUD]

^ I still don't understand...


You will not solve a block on your own with a single GPU.... (am I wrong here?)

[Hippie Tech]

^ I still don't understand...


You will not solve a block on your own with a single GPU.... (am I wrong here?)

It either will or it won't happen. 50 / 50

edit

The new mobo freakin rocks, btw. 

[AndrewBUD]

I would like cheap 3450 shipped to me.... Next time I come  to your area we'll go for a killer moutain bike ride and burnt a few every hour

[AndrewBUD]

you should use cgminer instead of guiminer...

I may eventually try it but will stick with guiminer for now.

Judging from the other 7870s on the comparison chart, there does not seem to be much of a difference between the two.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#AMD_.28ATI.29

Well i WILL OFFER TO WALK THROUGH THE ENTIRE SET UP FORGETTING CGMINER WORKIGN PROPERLY

if you tell me what gpu's pool and such I can do the cgminer.conf file for to get thing started instead o using the cgcrappy guimer it's so limited.. has rate sucks, all these extras yoir reqiored to overclock it a just problem
if you want with gettin

[Lethn]

I know bugger all about overclocking or anything like that ( hardware and programming just isn't my thing ) but when it comes to these 'official' and corporate boards don't worry if you get banned, you can honestly get banned off them by accident, especially they're trying to satisfy parents who are scared of the internet but won't parent their own children.

I once got banned off SOE's forum for calling someone an imbecile .... Or it might have been a moron >_> anyway.

[Hippie Tech]

Ya shoot .. I'm in BTCmine..

Is this why my accecpted rate goes varies from 300-380ish .. up and down.. regularly.

I prefer to let AB handle the oc, btw...