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October 28, 2012, 09:55:22 PM
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Every day I feel less bad about wanting an economic collapse to come about and smash this system, and to ruin those sorts who depend on it and use it to enact such injustice.

What makes you believe an economic collapse would bring something better?

These injustices happen everywhere. The whole world is fucked up when you think about it. I'm not sure a collapse would bring something better.

It's really scary to think about how easily it could happen to any of us, if someone with pull chooses to make it happen. Scary and infuriating.

Definitely scary. It may really happen to anyone. The "reason" might be totally banal, like somebody got interested in your wife...
Did you read the chicken man story I linked above? He ended up dead because some municipal officials wanted to build a "green area" on his property.
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October 29, 2012, 01:29:10 AM
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This info about Roger is widely known by many of us, and Roger has no problem discussing it with people. It's an amazing anecdote of our terrible "justice" system and the harm it does routinely to good people.

It's also important to note that Roger did nothing wrong. Free individuals should be allowed to sell fireworks to each other, period.
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October 29, 2012, 02:17:04 AM
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It's an amazing anecdote of our terrible "justice" system and the harm it does routinely to good people.
You misspelled "just us".
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October 29, 2012, 02:17:58 AM
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Must be a slow news day...
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October 29, 2012, 02:28:11 AM
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I vote to move this thread to the trash can and theymos, I'd gladly take GOAT back if you ban this FUD mongerer MOE-PR

Dude, seriously, who the fuck are you again? I must have missed the moment when you did something I should care about. Or at least remember or something.

I'm nobody. I just find you annoying. Sorry.

A whole lot of nobodies seem to have a problem with you. Just because you were too ugly for porn does not mean you should spend all day assaulting our eyes with your companies propaganda. We have plenty of trolls that are productive here, perhaps you should take a cue from one of them.

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October 29, 2012, 04:58:13 AM
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I found the original post particularly offensive.  

This is yet another reason that when your ignore button gets dark enough the user should automatically be given the douche bag tag and their posts should not longer be visable anywhere unless other users click on them.

MOE-PR - You should change that subject line too.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, MOE-PR just crossed my ignore threshold.

Sensationalism title + Near empty post + failed FUD attempt = good riddance.
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October 29, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
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This is yet another reason that when your ignore button gets dark enough the user should automatically be given the douche bag tag and their posts should not longer be visable anywhere unless other users click on them.
gee... Thanks a lot for that...

Now back on topic.
I'm also an ex-con. And so what? Am I less of a person because I decided to stand for what I believed and got sent to jail because of it?

I've been charged with 3 (maybe 4) felonies in my life, but none went to court. I stand behind Roger Ver also, but have learned a while back that he was a major trader of those Magic The Gathering trading cards just prior to getting the Bitcoin bug.

FYI/aside: I'm probably one of the few here that would not fear getting in the ring with Roger Ver, going mano y mano. Would make a fine betting event come next spring, giving Roger some time to get in shape.

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October 29, 2012, 06:20:06 PM
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I'm probably one of the few here that would not fear getting in the ring with Roger Ver, going mano y mano. Would make a fine betting event come next spring, giving Roger some time to get in shape.

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October 29, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
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I'm probably one of the few here that would not fear getting in the ring with Roger Ver, going mano y mano. Would make a fine betting event come next spring, giving Roger some time to get in shape.

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So not to derail this fine thread, I've moved the discussion over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121195.0
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October 29, 2012, 11:08:39 PM
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In respect to full disclosure, I feel the community should know I was arrested and detained for smoking weed in my car.

The cops only found a half smoken joint on the floor of my car, which was all I had. Yet, it took 3 police cruises with 6 officers to take me down.

When they asked me if I was smoking (so I would not knowingly give them a confession) I was completely silent which prompted them to throw me down on the hood of their car while I was handcuffed. They repeatedly told me "Being silent will only make it worse, you have to cooperate with us."

(A few months later I learned that a house was robbed about 3 blocks away from where I was arrested for smoking a joint...job well done boys)

As a 19 year old kid, I was kept in a dark lockup with many a dozen very scary and larger people than me for 30 hours. I was only allowed to pee once.

When I finally saw a judge, he told me not to do it again, dropped the case, and was on my way in about 15 minutes.

Did I deserve to be locked up for 30 hours?

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October 30, 2012, 03:54:24 AM
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Every day I feel less bad about wanting an economic collapse to come about and smash this system, and to ruin those sorts who depend on it and use it to enact such injustice.

What makes you believe an economic collapse would bring something better?

These injustices happen everywhere. The whole world is fucked up when you think about it. I'm not sure a collapse would bring something better.

Yeah, I know. Which is why I'm not really expecting anything better; at this point I'd just settle for some swift karmic justice.

No benefit to only worrying about the negative though; working for the positive is the better solution.

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November 01, 2012, 06:21:03 PM
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In respect to full disclosure, I feel the community should know I was arrested and detained for smoking weed in my car.

Did I deserve to be locked up for 30 hours?

Laws against weed possession are the most stupid man made laws in the entire human history.

You must breath more toxic smoke walking in NYC than when you puffed cannabis inside your car.

So, no, you did not deserved that...
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November 02, 2012, 10:00:07 PM
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In respect to full disclosure, I feel the community should know I was arrested and detained for smoking weed in my car.

The "community" has no need to know about your private life like that, but of course you can tell as you wish. It's actually nice of yours to trust your customers not to be so morons as to reject your business because of something like that.

"Being silent will only make it worse, you have to cooperate with us."

Are you sure they just didn't want some bribe? Arresting someone for a joint is so ridiculous it doesn't make sense... if they were doing it for a couple of free beers it'd be more normal, otherwise these cops are just plain retards. Armed and dangerous retards. Corrupt cops are much less worse to society than cops who actually "follow the law" and arrest a man for a joint...

Did I deserve to be locked up for 30 hours?

Obviously not. You have to be a sociopath to think otherwise.
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November 04, 2012, 05:57:38 AM
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a lot of unjust harm from the state.  is that the thing that brings us together, and bitcoin is a way of getting back at it?
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November 04, 2012, 09:10:38 AM
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Yet, it took 3 police cruises with 6 officers to take me down.

You must work out Wink

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November 04, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
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Yet, it took 3 police cruises with 6 officers to take me down.

You must work out Wink

I once saw 6 cops take down my dad after he threaten a judge and started to approach the bench, and he was sober. He once relayed to me that it took 12 cops to get his drunk ass into a patty wagon. At the police station, they hosed him down with cold water. He finally chilled.
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November 13, 2012, 07:27:45 PM
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In respect to full disclosure, I feel the community should know I was arrested and detained for smoking weed in my car.

The cops only found a half smoken joint on the floor of my car, which was all I had. Yet, it took 3 police cruises with 6 officers to take me down.

When they asked me if I was smoking (so I would not knowingly give them a confession) I was completely silent which prompted them to throw me down on the hood of their car while I was handcuffed. They repeatedly told me "Being silent will only make it worse, you have to cooperate with us."

(A few months later I learned that a house was robbed about 3 blocks away from where I was arrested for smoking a joint...job well done boys)

As a 19 year old kid, I was kept in a dark lockup with many a dozen very scary and larger people than me for 30 hours. I was only allowed to pee once.

When I finally saw a judge, he told me not to do it again, dropped the case, and was on my way in about 15 minutes.

Did I deserve to be locked up for 30 hours?

What state was this?  I know there are many unjust cops out there.  But you may have been better off just admitting to it.  
I've been in a similar situation twice in California.  Both times the cops let me go because I was completely honest (although they did make it clear what they could have done to me).  I also have a family member that is a cop, he doesn't mess with weed at all..  too much paper work.  The only time he does is when people won't admit to it.  One guy wouldn't admit to it and made him search his whole car on a really hot day, when the smell was so obvious.  He would have normally just confiscated the paraphernalia and maybe write him a citation when he can legally give DUI's.  But instead he felt obligated to pay the favor back by arresting him (he was out a day later, and my family member knew he would be, it was principal at this point).  Wouldn't you be pissed too?  You make mountains out of mole hills when you try to mess with cops.  I know they can be dicks, but if you just "respect their authority" you will probably be pleasantly surprised by the outcome.  

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Kind of a goofy old case, but here's the transcript of the sentencing:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/246762818/UNITED-STATES-OF-AMERICA-Plaintiff-vs-ROGER-VER-Defendant
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May 09, 2018, 06:36:32 PM
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This is hilarious. I love it. I actually have a lot of respect for Roger Ver now and his entreprenuerial ways. Being an ex-con is one of his most redeeming qualities I think.

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I just happened upon

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The United States Attorney's Office for the Northern District of California announced today that Roger Ver was sentenced to 10 months in prison for selling explosives on the online auction site, eBay. The sentence was handed down by U.S. District Court Judge Jeremy Fogel following a guilty plea on one count of dealing in explosives without a license in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 842(a)(1); one count of illegally storing explosives in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 842(j); and one count of mailing injurious articles in violation Title 18, United States Code, Section 1716. Mr. Ver, 22, of San Jose, was charged in an information filed in federal district court on August 8, 2001. According to the plea agreement, Mr. Ver admitted to engaging in the business of selling explosives without a license from January 1999 through August 2000. According to the information and plea agreement, Mr. Ver sold explosive devices described as "Pest Control Report 2000" on the online auction site eBay. He purchased approximately 49 pounds of the devices from a supplier in South Carolina, and sold at least 14 pounds of the devices to bidders on eBay. While engaging in the business of selling explosive devices, Mr. Ver stored the explosives in a residential apartment building and mailed the devices via the United States Mail in a manner contrary to Postal Service regulations. Judge Fogel sentenced the Defendant to 10 months in federal prison, a fine of $2,000, as well as a three-year period of supervised release. The Defendant will begin serving the sentence on August 2, 2002. The prosecution was the result of an investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Scott Frewing is the Assistant U.S. Attorney who prosecuted the case with the assistance of Legal Assistant Lauri Gomez.

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