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October 19, 2015, 10:17:31 AM
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I will start with the Desktop ones. They might be the safest option for anyone.
I will cover 4 wallets in all categories

1. Bitcoin-Qt : Bitcoin-Qt also knows as Bitcoin Core is the original bitcoin wallet. This is a full-node wallet, which
downloads the full blockchain which is about ~30Gb. Only use it if you have a lot of free disk space.
2. Multibit HD: Multibit is another good option when choosing wallets. Your wallet is secured by a passpharse
and a secret mnemotic. Multibit isn't a full-node wallet, so it doesn't need the whole Blockchain, saving time
and disk space.
3. Armory: Armory is a very secure bitcoin wallet, with an option for Cold Storage wallet. Armory is a full-node
wallet, so it will download a lot of data to your disk.
4. Electrum: Electrum isn't a full-node wallet, so it will save disk space for you. It's also a lightweight wallet
which saves on CPU and RAM usage.

Next, mobile wallets. They are safer than desktop ones, but don't store too much Coins in them.

1. Mycelium: Mycelium is the best wallet for mobile devices. However it requires a third party service to verify transaction, but
you have full control over your coins.
2. Bitcoin Wallet: Bitcoin Wallet is the best way to go. You have full control over your money. No 3rd party service required to
validate transactions. It's also open source. If you can, go with this one.
3. Bither - Android | iOS : Bither is another good choice between mobile wallets. You have control over your coins, without any 3rd party
services. However, anonimity is not that great, because people can spy at your balance, and Tor is not allowed.
4. Copay - Android | iOS: Copy is a good choice, but not as good as the ones above. It's great because you can set up 2FA but a 3rd party
is required to verify transactions. But you will have full control over your money.
5. Blocktrail Wallet: This wallet was introduced to my by a user. After you launch it, you will be prompted to sign up. You can choose
e-mail or just a username. I think that's a good thing. After, you will be asked for a PIN and to Backup your wallet and setup 2FA.
The app's UI look absolutly fantastic, looks like it was made by some professionals. It looks like a nice wallet, but I didn't use it yet.

Web wallets. If you want to access your coins anywhere you may use them, but Mobile Wallets are better than those.

1. Blockchain.info: Blockchain.info's my wallet is a great choise for Personal and Business use. You can combine it with their
powerful API and control your wallet in your own script.
2. Coinbase: Coinbase is a good choice, it's the same as Blockchain, but it has the ability to purchase BTC directly with USD.
3. Coinkite: Coinkite is the way to go, especially for Businesses. Coinkite offers POS terminals, you can set up at a strore and
receive payments in Bitcoin. You can store your Bitcoins and Litecoins there.
4. Xapo is the best available web wallet. It has 2FA, and a Cold Storage wallet. You can create more wallets inside an account,
and you can order a Xapo Debit Card, which you can spend your bitcoins directly from your wallet, without loading it every time.

Finally, hardware wallets. They are the safest option for storing Bitcoins.

1. Ledger Nano(29€): Ledger Nano is just like a small bank, built on a smart card. You can plug it in any USB port on a computer, and it will
stay safe no matter how much malware is on the computer.
2. Trezor (99$) : Trezor can communicate with your computer wirelessly, making it more safe. It has it's own LCD screen and buttons.
3. Case (199$) : Case is the newest and considered the safest Bitcoin hardware wallet.

If you can, go with paper wallets, and import their Private Keys to one of the Desktop wallets

So you may be asking: Then which one should I use? Well, for Desktop I recommend Bitcoin-Qt or Multibit. For mobile, I suggest Bitcoin Wallet. Web Based ones, definetly
Blockchain.info. From the hardware ones, I suggest Ledger Nano

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October 19, 2015, 10:55:24 AM
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Not a bad post on different wallets.  But it's really missing cold wallets. Such as paper or pc cold wallet etc.  They are the most secure aswell... so kinda need them.

I suggest on tips maybe change from red to black and a tad less on font.  But that is just a suggestion.
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Not a bad post on different wallets.  But it's really missing cold wallets. Such as paper or pc cold wallet etc.  They are the most secure aswell... so kinda need them.

I suggest on tips maybe change from red to black and a tad less on font.  But that is just a suggestion.
Beginners will not really start with importing private keys I think
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Pretty good , start by adding Case hardware wallet : https://choosecase.com/ which is considered as The world's most secure and easy-to-use bitcoin wallet and also you forgot to mention that Electrum have a seed aswell and you can recover your funds in case of a computer failure or something .

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October 19, 2015, 11:24:38 AM
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Not a bad post on different wallets.  But it's really missing cold wallets. Such as paper or pc cold wallet etc.  They are the most secure aswell... so kinda need them.

I suggest on tips maybe change from red to black and a tad less on font.  But that is just a suggestion.
Beginners will not really start with importing private keys I think

Even though they wouldn't start yet, it's a great thing if they can get some knowledge about it so that in the future, they don't need to ask for redundant questions here and there regarding cold storage etc.
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October 19, 2015, 12:15:55 PM
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Thank you for this post. I myself as a newbie before am not familiar with these different wallets specially the hardware wallet. You should add more pros and cons of these wallets so people can easily identify which is best for their preference of security. Smiley
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October 19, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
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can you review blocktrail mobile wallet ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blocktrail.mywallet
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I'll install it and write a review into this thread
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October 19, 2015, 12:51:08 PM
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Very good thread, extremely informative for noobs. You can't be a real noob yourself though can you OP? Cheesy

Setiously though, this is a good service you've done & I'm sure that nervous, bitcoin newcomers will be grateful.

Good work.
Thanks! I'm not a noob with Bitcoin, my account is new Smiley
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October 19, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
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very good job gathering all these. but i think it would be much easier to comprehend if it were in a form of a table.

something like this:

name|pros|cons
Bitcoin-Qt|full node|needs >30GB space, slow to update

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October 19, 2015, 02:38:46 PM
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Very good thread, extremely informative for noobs. You can't be a real noob yourself though can you OP? Cheesy

Setiously though, this is a good service you've done & I'm sure that nervous, bitcoin newcomers will be grateful.

Good work.
Thanks! I'm not a noob with Bitcoin, my account is new Smiley

Not bad, you'll want to edit out being a "full node" wallet to being Full verification wallet. Node is something else, that can only be done by Full Verification wallet, contrary to SPV Simplified Payment Verification.

I'd also break them down in Full/SPV but thats just me.

Good initiative.


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October 19, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
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Very good thread, extremely informative for noobs. You can't be a real noob yourself though can you OP? Cheesy

Setiously though, this is a good service you've done & I'm sure that nervous, bitcoin newcomers will be grateful.

Good work.
Thanks! I'm not a noob with Bitcoin, my account is new Smiley

Not bad, you'll want to edit out being a "full node" wallet to being Full verification wallet. Node is something else, that can only be done by Full Verification wallet, contrary to SPV Simplified Payment Verification.

I'd also break them down in Full/SPV but thats just me.

Good initiative.

correct me if i am wrong but according to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node it is my understanding that as soon as you open up your bitcoin-core and update you become a full node.
besides https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet calls them full nodes.

edit:
If you run the Bitcoin Core/bitcoind wallet, you are running a full node.

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Very good thread, extremely informative for noobs. You can't be a real noob yourself though can you OP? Cheesy

Setiously though, this is a good service you've done & I'm sure that nervous, bitcoin newcomers will be grateful.

Good work.
Thanks! I'm not a noob with Bitcoin, my account is new Smiley

Not bad, you'll want to edit out being a "full node" wallet to being Full verification wallet. Node is something else, that can only be done by Full Verification wallet, contrary to SPV Simplified Payment Verification.

I'd also break them down in Full/SPV but thats just me.

Good initiative.

correct me if i am wrong but according to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node it is my understanding that as soon as you open up your bitcoin-core and update you become a full node.
besides https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet calls them full nodes.

edit:
If you run the Bitcoin Core/bitcoind wallet, you are running a full node.

Yes, I actually got some information from bitcoin.org
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Thanks for posting these save me searching.
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I'll install it and write a review into this thread

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very good job gathering all these. but i think it would be much easier to comprehend if it were in a form of a table.

something like this:

name|pros|cons
Bitcoin-Qt|full node|needs >30GB space, slow to update

Code:
[table]
[tr]
[td]name[/td][td]|[/td][td]pros[/td][td]|[/td][td]cons[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Bitcoin-Qt[/td][td]|[/td][td]full node[/td][td]|[/td][td]needs >30GB space, slow to update[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
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October 19, 2015, 06:30:16 PM
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this is a nice list for the wallets, but the web/online wallets is missing GreenAddress and also circle.com these are two wallets that i have heard good reviews about.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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I will start with the Desktop ones. They might be the safest option for anyone.
I will cover 4 wallets in all categories

1. Bitcoin-Qt: Bitcoin-Qt also knows as Bitcoin Core is the original bitcoin wallet. This is a full-node wallet, which
downloads the full blockchain which is about ~30Gb. Only use it if you have a lot of free disk space.
2. Multibit HD: Multibit is another good option when choosing wallets. Your wallet is secured by a passpharse
and a secret mnemotic. Multibit isn't a full-node wallet, so it doesn't need the whole Blockchain, saving time
and disk space.
3. Armory: Armory is a very secure bitcoin wallet, with an option for Cold Storage wallet. Armory is a full-node
wallet, so it will download a lot of data to your disk.
4. Electrum: Electrum isn't a full-node wallet, so it will save disk space for you. It's also a lightweight wallet
which saves on CPU and RAM usage.

Next, mobile wallets. They are safer than desktop ones, but don't store too much Coins in them.

1. Mycelium: Mycelium is the best wallet for mobile devices. However it requires a third party service to verify transaction, but
you have full control over your coins.
2. Bitcoin Wallet: Bitcoin Wallet is the best way to go. You have full control over your money. No 3rd party service required to
validate transactions. It's also open source. If you can, go with this one.
3. Bither: Bither is another good choice between mobile wallets. You have control over your coins, without any 3rd party
services. However, anonimity is not that great, because people can spy at your balance, and Tor is not allowed.
4. Copay: Copy is a good choice, but not as good as the ones above. It's great because you can set up 2FA but a 3rd party
is required to verify transactions. But you will have full control over your money.
5. Blocktrail Wallet: This wallet was introduced to my by a user. After you launch it, you will be prompted to sign up. You can choose
e-mail or just a username. I think that's a good thing. After, you will be asked for a PIN and to Backup your wallet and setup 2FA.
The app's UI look absolutly fantastic, looks like it was made by some professionals. It looks like a nice wallet, but I didn't use it yet.

Web wallets. If you want to access your coins anywhere you may use them, but Mobile Wallets are better than those.

1. Blockchain.info: Blockchain.info's my wallet is a great choise for Personal and Business use. You can combine it with their
powerful API and control your wallet in your own script.
2. Coinbase: Coinbase is a good choice, it's the same as Blockchain, but it has the ability to purchase BTC directly with USD.
3. Coinkite: Coinkite is the way to go, especially for Businesses. Coinkite offers POS terminals, you can set up at a strore and
receive payments in Bitcoin. You can store your Bitcoins and Litecoins there.
4. Xapo is the best available web wallet. It has 2FA, and a Cold Storage wallet. You can create more wallets inside an account,
and you can order a Xapo Debit Card, which you can spend your bitcoins directly from your wallet, without loading it every time.

Finally, hardware wallets. They are the safest option for storing Bitcoins.

1. Ledger Nano: Ledger Nano is just like a small bank, built on a smart card. You can plug it in any USB port on a computer, and it will
stay safe no matter how much malware is on the computer.
2. Trezor: Trezor can communicate with your computer wirelessly, making it more safe. It has it's own LCD screen and buttons.
3. Case: Case is the newest and considered the safest Bitcoin hardware wallet.

If you can, go with paper wallets, and import their Private Keys to one of the Desktop wallets

So you may be asking: Then which one should I use? Well, for Desktop I recommend Bitcoin-Qt or Multibit. For mobile, I suggest Bitcoin Wallet. Web Based ones, definetly
Blockchain.info. From the hardware ones, I suggest Ledger Nano

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Very helpful post for newbies around the forum looking for a place to store their bitcoins.
If I could make a suggestion I would start posting the pro's and cons of each individual. Possibly make a chart of the features of each as well.

Good post, and thanks for helping out Smiley
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Very good thread, extremely informative for noobs. You can't be a real noob yourself though can you OP? Cheesy

Setiously though, this is a good service you've done & I'm sure that nervous, bitcoin newcomers will be grateful.

Good work.
Thanks! I'm not a noob with Bitcoin, my account is new Smiley

Not bad, you'll want to edit out being a "full node" wallet to being Full verification wallet. Node is something else, that can only be done by Full Verification wallet, contrary to SPV Simplified Payment Verification.

I'd also break them down in Full/SPV but thats just me.

Good initiative.

correct me if i am wrong but according to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node it is my understanding that as soon as you open up your bitcoin-core and update you become a full node.
besides https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet calls them full nodes.

edit:
If you run the Bitcoin Core/bitcoind wallet, you are running a full node.

My bad, i wasn't aware that a wallet that doesn't relay transaction or having it behind a firewall that refuse incoming connection could be considered a node or a full node. After all you can use them offline and in no way they could be acting as a node while offline.


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October 20, 2015, 01:41:36 AM
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Not a bad post on different wallets.  But it's really missing cold wallets. Such as paper or pc cold wallet etc.  They are the most secure aswell... so kinda need them.

I suggest on tips maybe change from red to black and a tad less on font.  But that is just a suggestion.
Beginners will not really start with importing private keys I think

Even though they wouldn't start yet, it's a great thing if they can get some knowledge about it so that in the future, they don't need to ask for redundant questions here and there regarding cold storage etc.

I would agree I would make it clear difference from hot and cold wallet.  Warn if done wrong cold can be wrong.  But not teaching it really does not do much good for learning.

I would add a section about security and specifically hot vs cold wallets.  Even if they don't use it at first, I hope one day they do so they are safe.
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