enhu (OP)
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October 21, 2015, 03:02:35 PM |
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I just wanted to learn the factors you consider when you are about to decide to Call or Fold. Maybe calculating how much you win or lose before deciding, which information do you look from the All-in player? VP, PFR, STIL, CB and etc..
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bitbaby
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October 22, 2015, 03:18:55 AM |
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The things I consider before deciding to call or not is first of all, My hand, is it good enough to beat, the other player's playing style, is he a bluffer or a good hands player and then the community cards, which tells you if the other person might have made a flush or a straight, but not too much calculation, it's about gut instinct to some extent.
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SyGambler
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October 22, 2015, 01:55:11 PM |
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there are many factors to consider when you are about to call an all in , for example is it a cash game or a tourney , what type of players you are playing against in cash games for sure you need to focus on your opponents move , cause sometimes AJs can be a monster against fun players type , in general you should pick up a premium hand when you are willing to call an all in pre flop in a cash game in tourneys you should consider more factors since when you are busted you can't reload , sometimes you have to gamble with any pair sometimes you need to wait for a good spot
it's a long discussion actually , every spot has its own decision
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yanka50
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October 22, 2015, 02:13:30 PM |
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Simple answer is you have to consider everything your hand, his hand, chips in pot ...
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twicezeroiszero
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October 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PM |
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Nah just go with instinct man feel the flow
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katerniko1
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October 22, 2015, 03:14:09 PM |
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against all in player all you can do is wait for a great hand and try your luck or wait for someone else test his luck. regards. -Katerniko1
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Nahl
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October 22, 2015, 03:23:28 PM |
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i do not have a much skill to calculate every roll in the poker games and all of my decisions is only based from my instinct
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pjsonowal
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October 22, 2015, 03:50:38 PM |
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i really dont do that.....better way is to recall earlier bets of the player against you...
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nickenburg
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October 22, 2015, 04:08:32 PM |
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I don't calculate before I fold or call, It all depends on the hand and the position i'm in. It also depends what you play 6 or 9 handed.
When I play 9 handed I only play good hands early and play aggressive before the blinds You got some great website that can help you to become better at poker.
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Aemon
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October 22, 2015, 04:12:51 PM |
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I am assuming you are talking about poker? Are you talking about holdem?
I usually call depending on how strong I think the other persons hand is. There are also times where I know I have the best hand and then I will be folding. Poker is a game of feel and reading other people. Gotta be good at those to do well.
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gogxmagog
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October 22, 2015, 04:16:15 PM |
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It has to be real physical cards, I do not trust digital decks at all, but with real cards it is possible to "count" the deck... more so the longer play goes on. so i usually start the night trying for a little intuition and take a few risks, but by the end of the night I've usually got the whole table figured out.
does that answer your question?
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yanka50
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October 22, 2015, 04:42:36 PM |
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It has to be real physical cards, I do not trust digital decks at all, but with real cards it is possible to "count" the deck... more so the longer play goes on. so i usually start the night trying for a little intuition and take a few risks, but by the end of the night I've usually got the whole table figured out.
does that answer your question?
How the hell do you count cards at poker table, you made my day sir
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fox19891989
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October 22, 2015, 04:50:00 PM |
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there are many factors to consider when you are about to call an all in , for example is it a cash game or a tourney , what type of players you are playing against in cash games for sure you need to focus on your opponents move , cause sometimes AJs can be a monster against fun players type , in general you should pick up a premium hand when you are willing to call an all in pre flop in a cash game in tourneys you should consider more factors since when you are busted you can't reload , sometimes you have to gamble with any pair sometimes you need to wait for a good spot
it's a long discussion actually , every spot has its own decision
you are right my friend, we need to analyze the game and opponent, if they are tight players, we go to call when we have strong hands, or we need to fold.if they are loose players, we can catch their bluffs when we have weak hands, some guys like being allin with 27o
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cazkooo
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October 22, 2015, 05:39:11 PM |
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It has to be real physical cards, I do not trust digital decks at all, but with real cards it is possible to "count" the deck... more so the longer play goes on. so i usually start the night trying for a little intuition and take a few risks, but by the end of the night I've usually got the whole table figured out.
does that answer your question?
How the hell do you count cards at poker table, you made my day sir It is not really like count cards but you count the probability that you have the highest combination there. If you have pair three at your hand and there is a pair ace at the table , then you already have two pair but the proability to win is small because someone with pair four will win, that is how you count the probability
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Aemon
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October 22, 2015, 05:54:13 PM |
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It has to be real physical cards, I do not trust digital decks at all, but with real cards it is possible to "count" the deck... more so the longer play goes on. so i usually start the night trying for a little intuition and take a few risks, but by the end of the night I've usually got the whole table figured out.
does that answer your question?
How the hell do you count cards at poker table, you made my day sir It is not really like count cards but you count the probability that you have the highest combination there. If you have pair three at your hand and there is a pair ace at the table , then you already have two pair but the proability to win is small because someone with pair four will win, that is how you count the probability You can count cards all you want and blah blah blah, first counting cards in poker is a terrible strategy. Second you are far better off reading the opponent then watching the cards.
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edmundduke
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October 22, 2015, 05:57:44 PM |
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The best way would be, as said before, look at what you got, what is in the pot and base your decision on that. As for me, i usually go with the gut feeling. If it feels good i call, if not i fold.
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abonarea
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October 22, 2015, 06:59:02 PM |
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No I don't calculate before deciding to fold or call i just do it and sometimes win and other times loose.It is all about luck more and little your tricks in gambling what I think about casino based games.
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bithasher
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October 22, 2015, 07:04:36 PM |
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I also don't calculate before to take any decision to make call there, i just check what i have into my hand because sometimes i just call in the very beginning of the game when i think i can win this game.
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victoryboy
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October 22, 2015, 07:13:37 PM |
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I always look at my hand and see how much possibility is to win if I think it will be useless to drag the gamble then I fold or call immediately without wasting of time.Sometimes I play psychological game with opponent but it depends on with whom I am playing not always and neither everywhere this works.
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October 22, 2015, 08:33:18 PM |
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If your hand sucks fold If you raised too much when you were bluffing and your opponent re-raise, fold If you just see your hand is widely beatable, fold.
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