Do you calculate before deciding to Fold or Call?

[BTCBinary]

When Playing poker there are a lot of things you need to calculate. You need to figure out, the probability your game has to win. For this you need to have some strategy, but you can't have predefined calculations

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[adaseb]

When Playing poker there are a lot of things you need to calculate. You need to figure out, the probability your game has to win. For this you need to have some strategy, but you can't have predefined calculations

Yes true and there is also the fact whether you are playing in an actual casino or online. The rules are totally different. There is also a different level of stress.

Most people in a real casino, are very nervious and show their emotions very easily and you can use it to your advantage.

[cazkooo]

Most people in a real casino, are very nervious and show their emotions very easily and you can use it to your advantage.

They are newbie in that and not everyone is like that. Do you watch how WSOP player play? most of them are faking their emotions to looks like they are having bad card and all in desperate way. If you believe everything you see in the player's emotion then you should not play because it will burn you

[StevenLiang]

I just wanted to learn the factors you consider when you are about to decide to Call or Fold.  
Maybe calculating how much you win or lose before deciding, which information do you look from the All-in player?
VP, PFR, STIL, CB and etc..

Call or Fold,
i will consider this in a poker game instead of other card games.

The first thing of all, it's not like that simple.
Sometimes you just need to "check" with AA card's with flop (K, 9, A) for some bluffer player.

And sometimes you need to raise your 48 card's with flop (J, J, K) for some very tight player. (if they call, then that's mean they have J or K)

The probability in poker is really a lot.
Professional poker player always change their 'play'. Sometimes aggresive, sometimes bluff, sometimes even not raise.

[StevenLiang]

Most people in a real casino, are very nervious and show their emotions very easily and you can use it to your advantage.

They are newbie in that and not everyone is like that. Do you watch how WSOP player play? most of them are faking their emotions to looks like they are having bad card and all in desperate way. If you believe everything you see in the player's emotion then you should not play because it will burn you

For some reason i like to play poker with girl. 
It's fun and they easily show their emotional when have a good card. (but i still call instead, Lol)

[Supercrypt]

When Playing poker there are a lot of things you need to calculate. You need to figure out, the probability your game has to win. For this you need to have some strategy, but you can't have predefined calculations

Yes predetermined calculations will be useless as we can not foresee all the movements well before itself. Same way people do not want to delay on calculating on Fold or Call while playing. This makes some advantages when we move faster in playing but slower and steady will win always for sure.

[StevenLiang]

When Playing poker there are a lot of things you need to calculate. You need to figure out, the probability your game has to win. For this you need to have some strategy, but you can't have predefined calculations

Yes predetermined calculations will be useless as we can not foresee all the movements well before itself. Same way people do not want to delay on calculating on Fold or Call while playing. This makes some advantages when we move faster in playing but slower and steady will win always for sure.

Yes, if we look ourselves play's. We will find we got a lot win when we play it with steady and slower.
No need to hurry. We are just reading now. 

[aakashsangwan]

The things I consider before deciding to call or not is first of all, My hand, is it good enough to beat, the other player's playing style, is he a bluffer or a good hands player and then the community cards, which tells you if the other person might have made a flush or a straight, but not too much calculation, it's about gut instinct to some extent.

you are absolutely correct everything is on instinct because some times bad cards also win and some time good cards also lose it, but when you are playing on some cards when you feel what to do that time your instinct tells you something which if you follow mostly you will win. i have tried this and 90% of time i have won.

[BitMaxz]

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But im always thinking so hard before i decide.

[Aemon]

I don't think poker is that much of a calculation game.  It is more likely to read someone.  I am not saying there are no calculations in Poker it is just more of a reading game.  You can ask any professional player if he played at home games, he doesn't even need to look at his cards and can probably bankrupt the table in 2 hours.

[SyGambler]

I don't think poker is that much of a calculation game.  It is more likely to read someone.  I am not saying there are no calculations in Poker it is just more of a reading game.  You can ask any professional player if he played at home games, he doesn't even need to look at his cards and can probably bankrupt the table in 2 hours.

it's a complicated game with many factors to consider , but in online games math is actually the main factor to consider
most online players play an average of 6 tables at the same time , so most of the decisions are automated and mostly depends on the math

[Eastwind]

i do not have a much skill to calculate every roll in the poker games and all of my decisions is only based from my instinct

What is your gambling performance. Did you win a lot or lose some? Very interested to know the effect of instinct.

[panjul07]

I don't think poker is that much of a calculation game.  It is more likely to read someone.  I am not saying there are no calculations in Poker it is just more of a reading game.  You can ask any professional player if he played at home games, he doesn't even need to look at his cards and can probably bankrupt the table in 2 hours.

Do you mean read other players from their face and gesture? If so, means that it is only working on real casino but we can't do that on online casino. Even it is hard to read other players on real casino specially if we play against totally new players. So calculation is important to decide what next to do, see how much is the pot, how much is our bankroll, etc.

[oni.saori]

When to fold in poker?
You are certain that you hold the worst hand and are also facing a bet.
You don't have enough chance of improving to the best hand compared to the pot odds you get.
You're unsure whether you're ahead or behind, but you'd have to call a big bet now or maybe later in the hand to find out.
You are getting odds to call but you aren't closing the action and it is very likely that someone behind you will make it too expensive to continue.


Situations in which folding would be incorrect
You can check instead :-).
you know you have the best hand (obviously).
You know you probably have the worst hand but you are getting the correct odds to call with your draw anyway.
You know you are behind, but you are also pretty sure that a bluff will win you the pot.

[StevenLiang]

When to fold in poker?
You are certain that you hold the worst hand and are also facing a bet.
You don't have enough chance of improving to the best hand compared to the pot odds you get.
You're unsure whether you're ahead or behind, but you'd have to call a big bet now or maybe later in the hand to find out.
You are getting odds to call but you aren't closing the action and it is very likely that someone behind you will make it too expensive to continue.


Situations in which folding would be incorrect
You can check instead :-).
you know you have the best hand (obviously).
You know you probably have the worst hand but you are getting the correct odds to call with your draw anyway.
You know you are behind, but you are also pretty sure that a bluff will win you the pot.

Agree with these answer,
btw poker is not just theory, you better play and make your own decision on when to fold or call.

[oni.saori]

When to fold in poker?
You are certain that you hold the worst hand and are also facing a bet.
You don't have enough chance of improving to the best hand compared to the pot odds you get.
You're unsure whether you're ahead or behind, but you'd have to call a big bet now or maybe later in the hand to find out.
You are getting odds to call but you aren't closing the action and it is very likely that someone behind you will make it too expensive to continue.


Situations in which folding would be incorrect
You can check instead :-).
you know you have the best hand (obviously).
You know you probably have the worst hand but you are getting the correct odds to call with your draw anyway.
You know you are behind, but you are also pretty sure that a bluff will win you the pot.

Agree with these answer,
btw poker is not just theory, you better play and make your own decision on when to fold or call.

Getting Mathematical
The information you have about your opponent's hand is that he limped from early position, then called a small raise, and when the flop came out he led into you for two-thirds the pot on a 7♠ J♣ Q♦ board.
You can assign him a range of something like TT-77, KQs, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, ATo, KQo, QTo+, JTo, T9o - which is a pretty wide range. Against it you're a 40% dog.because the bulk of that range is weak

 he will fold to a raise a high percentage of the time. What the exact percent is is impossible to determine, although it's safe to say that he will be folding enough times to make raising a more profitable play on your part than folding.

[Aemon]

When to fold in poker?
You are certain that you hold the worst hand and are also facing a bet.
You don't have enough chance of improving to the best hand compared to the pot odds you get.
You're unsure whether you're ahead or behind, but you'd have to call a big bet now or maybe later in the hand to find out.
You are getting odds to call but you aren't closing the action and it is very likely that someone behind you will make it too expensive to continue.


Situations in which folding would be incorrect
You can check instead :-).
you know you have the best hand (obviously).
You know you probably have the worst hand but you are getting the correct odds to call with your draw anyway.
You know you are behind, but you are also pretty sure that a bluff will win you the pot.

Agree with these answer,
btw poker is not just theory, you better play and make your own decision on when to fold or call.

Getting Mathematical
The information you have about your opponent's hand is that he limped from early position, then called a small raise, and when the flop came out he led into you for two-thirds the pot on a 7♠ J♣ Q♦ board.
You can assign him a range of something like TT-77, KQs, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, ATo, KQo, QTo+, JTo, T9o - which is a pretty wide range. Against it you're a 40% dog.because the bulk of that range is weak

 he will fold to a raise a high percentage of the time. What the exact percent is is impossible to determine, although it's safe to say that he will be folding enough times to make raising a more profitable play on your part than folding.

Nice post, I agree, you can try to pick them on a hand, and usually you can get somewhat close.  Another huge part of poker though is being able to read people so you can calculate what they have, or if they are bluffing.

[enhu]

which sort of card on hand that you can think of calling just to bluff, considering you can afford to lose what's on the pot size.
Your opponent may have 9 and up pair or maybe even trio, straight, flush or so, would you bluff and call?

[FrueGreads]

Well if I don't know anything about the other player, then I just calculate the odds of my hand improving and hitting the nuts or close to it, then I compare it with the investement I need to make to continue on that hand. When I do that, you can estimate if that hand would give you profit in the long run.
It's that "easy".

[Aemon]

You should have a good idea of what your odds are that you can win or not.  Now nothing is for sure in poker because anything can happen, but if you have say a 50% chance to win, and you have invested a lot of money in there it might be worth it to call depending on how much they raise.