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May 06, 2017, 11:13:47 AM
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It is now clear for me that honesty is not the strong point of the IOTA team. At the start of the project, I have purchased iotas. And now, those iotas have disappeared just because I should have participated to your project, which has never been said in the initial agreement. The iota's team has stolen me money !!!!

Same here but it's technically not stealing, they just did not check if people balance disappeared. It's probably temporary though. I'm waiting for the next wallet release and hope to find my balance there.

The android iota dev has been trying to find my iotas for 2 days and I've been trying for the last 6 months. It's nowhere for some unknown reasons.

At this point we're down to pray the gods and make sacrifices.
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May 06, 2017, 12:26:42 PM
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 yeah, I would prefer to store my coins at ydx just because the risk that they will be lost in tangle is too high. I would not expect any major exchanges this year just because this tech needs to be time proven. DAG is the new toy - what would polo tell if their transaction will be lost for no reason? Reputation risk.

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May 06, 2017, 12:28:07 PM
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yeah, I would prefer to store my coins at ydx just because the risk that they will be lost in tangle is too high. I would not expect any major exchanges this year just because this tech needs to be time proven.

is this sarcasm or blatant ignorance?
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May 06, 2017, 12:33:40 PM
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yeah, I would prefer to store my coins at ydx just because the risk that they will be lost in tangle is too high. I would not expect any major exchanges this year just because this tech needs to be time proven.

is this sarcasm or blatant ignorance?

 Both  Wink. I adore IOTA but I don't trust tangle as much as trust the blockchain so far

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May 06, 2017, 01:00:28 PM
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yeah, I would prefer to store my coins at ydx just because the risk that they will be lost in tangle is too high. I would not expect any major exchanges this year just because this tech needs to be time proven.

is this sarcasm or blatant ignorance?

 Both  Wink. I adore IOTA but I don't trust tangle as much as trust the blockchain so far

I'm always wondering why people are still cautious on rabbit-level after all those legit persons/companies/press participated somehow.
What do you think is going to happen?
It turns out that ALL people, I mean every single developer, professors, technicians, thinker, all foundation members and every single involved community person were wrong or what? lol...

let's see if this skepticism ages well. I remind you when the new version is running Smiley
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May 06, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
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Heard about this on slack.  Great way to even further expand the community!  I didn't catch where the funds were originating from.  I assumed it was through token slated for dev costs?



No, it actually comes from generous community members and members of the "ecosystem club".

They recognized the potential and acted accordingly.

That's exactly what good investors do!

Everything came from the community, there was no premine, not 1 Iota was allocated to the devs. The community donated close to 5% of total Iota supply to Foundation long after ICO. The core dev team bought all of there Iota during ICO.

Just to be more clear, this fund is not part of previous donations/funds, it's a totally different fund;

(1)The communities donated to the IOTA FOUNDATION
(2)The communities has donated to the "big deal" (still mostly behind the scenes)
(3)Now the communities has come together and created and funded the "ecosystem club" and it kind of work hand in hand with IOTA FOUNDATION funds as well.

Great job to everyone that has participated in those donations!
I am very grateful for our communities' willingness to think above themselves.
In the end, if we stick together, it will all pay back.

If I have missed some other efforts, please let me know.

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May 06, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
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Is there a rich list of iota addresses?

No but if you're on slack you can get an idea on how much some of the traders hold.

https://ydx.slack.com/files/bookkeeper/F5924HS7J/balances

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May 06, 2017, 03:47:40 PM
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Heard about this on slack.  Great way to even further expand the community!  I didn't catch where the funds were originating from.  I assumed it was through token slated for dev costs?



No, it actually comes from generous community members and members of the "ecosystem club".

They recognized the potential and acted accordingly.

That's exactly what good investors do!




Everything came from the community, there was no premine, not 1 Iota was allocated to the devs. The community donated close to 5% of total Iota supply to Foundation long after ICO. The core dev team bought all of there Iota during ICO.

Just to be more clear, this fund is not part of previous donations/funds, it's a totally different fund;

(1)The communities donated to the IOTA FOUNDATION
(2)The communities has donated to the "big deal" (still mostly behind the scenes)
(3)Now the communities has come together and created and funded the "ecosystem club" and it kind of work hand in hand with IOTA FOUNDATION funds as well.

Great job to everyone that has participated in those donations!
I am very grateful for our communities' willingness to think above themselves.
In the end, if we stick together, it will all pay back.

If I have missed some other efforts, please let me know.

Wow all from donations?  The community donated millions?
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May 06, 2017, 04:00:07 PM
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Heard about this on slack.  Great way to even further expand the community!  I didn't catch where the funds were originating from.  I assumed it was through token slated for dev costs?



No, it actually comes from generous community members and members of the "ecosystem club".

They recognized the potential and acted accordingly.

That's exactly what good investors do!




Everything came from the community, there was no premine, not 1 Iota was allocated to the devs. The community donated close to 5% of total Iota supply to Foundation long after ICO. The core dev team bought all of there Iota during ICO.

Just to be more clear, this fund is not part of previous donations/funds, it's a totally different fund;

(1)The communities donated to the IOTA FOUNDATION
(2)The communities has donated to the "big deal" (still mostly behind the scenes)
(3)Now the communities has come together and created and funded the "ecosystem club" and it kind of work hand in hand with IOTA FOUNDATION funds as well.

Great job to everyone that has participated in those donations!
I am very grateful for our communities' willingness to think above themselves.
In the end, if we stick together, it will all pay back.

If I have missed some other efforts, please let me know.

Wow all from donations?  The community donated millions?


Yes. All above mentioned are donated by communities efforts.

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May 06, 2017, 08:22:18 PM
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regarding the ongoing claiming process @http://www.iotasupport.com/claimingyouriota.shtml
how can I know that I have to claim my IOTAs. I have bought some several times.
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May 06, 2017, 09:11:10 PM
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regarding the ongoing claiming process @http://www.iotasupport.com/claimingyouriota.shtml
how can I know that I have to claim my IOTAs. I have bought some several times.

Do you see your iotas when you login to your wallet? If yes then you don't have to claim.
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May 07, 2017, 03:50:34 AM
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regarding the ongoing claiming process @http://www.iotasupport.com/claimingyouriota.shtml
how can I know that I have to claim my IOTAs. I have bought some several times.

Do you see your iotas when you login to your wallet? If yes then you don't have to claim.
yes I can
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May 07, 2017, 10:37:16 AM
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I have been explained that some people confuse "claim" and "re-claim". (it was my case by the way)

Claim -> was collect.iotatoken.com -> send a small amount of BTC -> your address is in the genesis
If you did that in time, then you did successfully claim.

Re-claim -> The addresses changed at some point and you had to claim the iotas again to a new address. You can still get your iotas if you didn't do this.


In my case, I have successfully claim but I don't know how to re-claim. I have been told to contact David (iotatoken). However I have not still received any response (it is the weekend)

However, if someone can help me to re-claim, that would be good.
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May 07, 2017, 11:40:30 AM
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I have been explained that some people confuse "claim" and "re-claim". (it was my case by the way)
Claim -> was collect.iotatoken.com -> send a small amount of BTC -> your address is in the genesis
If you did that in time, then you did successfully claim.
Re-claim -> The addresses changed at some point and you had to claim the iotas again to a new address. You can still get your iotas if you didn't do this.

In my case, I have successfully claim but I don't know how to re-claim. I have been told to contact David (iotatoken). However I have not still received any response (it is the weekend)
However, if someone can help me to re-claim, that would be good.

you can learn how to do it here - http://www.iotasupport.com/claimingyouriota.shtml
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May 07, 2017, 02:39:26 PM
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It is now clear for me that honesty is not the strong point of the IOTA team. At the start of the project, I have purchased iotas. And now, those iotas have disappeared just because I should have participated to your project, which has never been said in the initial agreement. The iota's team has stolen me money !!!!

I had some issues earlier and was able to get my IOTA to appear again, there was a conversion that you needed to go through to convert your seed in a new client. I will say that they don't make it easy and there were lots of bumps along the way, but I did get my IOTA to show up again.  Get on the IOTA slack and someone will help you eventually, but you have to have a lot, and I mean a lot of patience with IOTA.  That being said, I wouldn't say they've stolen any crypto from anyone.  Oh, also if you purchased IOTA stakes in a token, you need to go through that person that you purchased a token from, (i.e. IOTAB, etc,)
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May 07, 2017, 06:49:35 PM
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I have been explained that some people confuse "claim" and "re-claim". (it was my case by the way)
Claim -> was collect.iotatoken.com -> send a small amount of BTC -> your address is in the genesis
If you did that in time, then you did successfully claim.
Re-claim -> The addresses changed at some point and you had to claim the iotas again to a new address. You can still get your iotas if you didn't do this.

In my case, I have successfully claim but I don't know how to re-claim. I have been told to contact David (iotatoken). However I have not still received any response (it is the weekend)
However, if someone can help me to re-claim, that would be good.

you can learn how to do it here - http://www.iotasupport.com/claimingyouriota.shtml

In his case it looks like David has to do it manually.
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May 07, 2017, 08:23:05 PM
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I will say that they don't make it easy and there were lots of bumps along the way, but I did get my IOTA to show up again.  Get on the IOTA slack and someone will help you eventually, but you have to have a lot, and I mean a lot of patience with IOTA.  That being said, I wouldn't say they've stolen any crypto from anyone. 


I want everyone to try to contemplate how IOTA would look if the number one priority was to help people who didn't bother to claim in time and do hands on daily tutoring rather than actually create the technology... It is *us* not *you* who has to have an insane amount of patience with people who didn't bother to follow the right procedures in the first 4 months and thus ended up costing us tens of hours of manual work that could've been much better spent on doing productive things.

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May 07, 2017, 09:15:44 PM
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I will say that they don't make it easy and there were lots of bumps along the way, but I did get my IOTA to show up again.  Get on the IOTA slack and someone will help you eventually, but you have to have a lot, and I mean a lot of patience with IOTA.  That being said, I wouldn't say they've stolen any crypto from anyone. 


I want everyone to try to contemplate how IOTA would look if the number one priority was to help people who didn't bother to claim in time and do hands on daily tutoring rather than actually create the technology... It is *us* not *you* who has to have an insane amount of patience with people who didn't bother to follow the right procedures in the first 4 months and thus ended up costing us tens of hours of manual work that could've been much better spent on doing productive things.
ok I understand that but:

1) I was not aware of the need to convert the iotas again to a new address (re-claim). (There is no information letter)
 
2) This conversion process seems not easy to do (you write "tens of hours of manual work") I did not know that.

ok I apologize for having used the word dishonest to qualify the iota team.

What is the process to make this conversion ? Can I do it myself ?
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May 08, 2017, 08:00:08 AM
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Can IOTA's that we have in our current wallet be SCAMMED with another foolish statement for example "upgrade your wallet now" (if new wallet were to come) or the money will be sent to the IOTA Foundation. Seeing the IOTA team anything is possible.

Are our IOTAs safe now? Or will there be another scammish attempts to steal our IOTA?

It is a such a disgrace that IOTA is such a scam knowing what a great project it is. I think this is just the top of the iceberg.

I just need a YES or NO. I don't need the dogs come barking around the corner and defending their master. Just a simple YES or NO if my IOTAs in current wallet is safe now forever or not. Can I hold them for several years without being in danger to be stolen?

How are we even discussing this matter? So ridiculous..
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May 08, 2017, 09:06:15 AM
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Can IOTA's that we have in our current wallet be SCAMMED with another foolish statement for example "upgrade your wallet now" (if new wallet were to come) or the money will be sent to the IOTA Foundation. Seeing the IOTA team anything is possible.

Are our IOTAs safe now? Or will there be another scammish attempts to steal our IOTA?

It is a such a disgrace that IOTA is such a scam knowing what a great project it is. I think this is just the top of the iceberg.

I just need a YES or NO. I don't need the dogs come barking around the corner and defending their master. Just a simple YES or NO if my IOTAs in current wallet is safe now forever or not. Can I hold them for several years without being in danger to be stolen?

How are we even discussing this matter? So ridiculous..

Yes, even though very unlikely it was said on Slack that there could possibly be some other radical changes that will make it necessary to claim your tokens again. Anyway, if you keep an eye on the official news channels (which you should do with every investment you make), it will be anticipated and explained very clearly (if it ever happens of course).
Obvioulsy if one of the devs updates this statement or says something different, take their word for true.

Hard to answer with a simple and aseptic YES or NO, when your question is full of personal opinions in the first place.
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