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March 07, 2020, 05:39:59 PM |
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I am shocked that IOTA has not lost more of its value.
It did not lost at all but gained. At start of the year price of IOTA was 15 cents now is 23 cents. This simply tells you that all prices in crypto have nothing to do with reality. Later it counts only the difference of selling price and buying price. The price between the two event don't matter. You have at this time not any "gain", you have some IOTA's and maybe you will able to sell it later - OR NOT. That counts for each person buying and selling coins. I and ServerNoMore are telling of price of the coin. He is surprised price did not decrease. I am surprised that price actually increased. No matter that this event that ended all transactions for more then a week happened. |
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March 07, 2020, 07:58:22 PM |
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I am shocked that IOTA has not lost more of its value.
It did not lost at all but gained. At start of the year price of IOTA was 15 cents now is 23 cents. This simply tells you that all prices in crypto have nothing to do with reality. Later it counts only the difference of selling price and buying price. The price between the two event don't matter. You have at this time not any "gain", you have some IOTA's and maybe you will able to sell it later - OR NOT. That counts for each person buying and selling coins. I and ServerNoMore are telling of price of the coin. He is surprised price did not decrease. I am surprised that price actually increased. No matter that this event that ended all transactions for more then a week happened. I think I'm right in saying that the Big Red Button was pushed at 17.20 on Feb 12th, at which time IOTA was trading around 34 cents. Today it's around 22.5 cents, a market cap shrink in the order of $300m. Nobody mention the ATH. OK, I will. $5.25. If you mIOTA'd 1 BTC then you'd have got ~ 3,272. Today you'd get ~ 39,420. Bargain? |
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ifinta
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March 08, 2020, 02:35:21 AM |
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FYI IOTA was the first alt at Bitfinex (after Litecoin, but Litecoin was used threre since the start).
I'm pretty sure that ETH was listed WAY before IOTA... I still remember Potter's legendary message on some slack when the DAO desaster happened I wish I never listed this piece of shit coin! .edit: hereI think this is a conspiracy theory at best. The market cap isn't defined by the actual money flowing into the projects. That's likely just a coincidence. I just checked - as IOTA was selected for the trade on Bitfinex the following alt's was also on the Bitfinex Market tradeable ( ok - you have right): Litecoin, ZCash, Monero, Dash, XRP, ETH/ETC (I hope it is a whole list already) https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/206But: every alt's - before IOTA - was a well established alt on the market already at the time its listing on Bitfinex - every was already in the top 100 on the coinmarketcap.com - I think, but IOTA was the first alt, which had the possibility to start on the market through Bitfinex! It was parallel listed on the coinmarketcap.com... ((in this way was only IOTA the first, sorry because some uncertainty, but it is also a big difference to other alt's. It was a little strange listing from Bitfnex)) What I consider at the start, and later - is documented in an other thread: If we invested 230 dollar in BITCOIN in late 2015, then we have today ~8200 dollar ("yesterday" 12000 dollar, "tomorrow" maybe 5000 dollar or 150000 dollar  we know.......) If we invested 230 dollar in IOTA in late 2015, then we have today ~2515 dollar Or? Just a question. What is the TRUE ROI of IOTA?   The thread above contains also some information about the truth ROI of IOTA, and about the ROI showed on the coinmarketcap.com. The ROI of IOTA on the coimarketcap.com is also a scam, I think..., I see... And about your remark: "a conspiracy theory"Yes. You have right here also: It is a truth conspiracy, I think...  ... with very much support from side some governments... ... and the BIG RED BUTTON is a LEGAL TOOL ... just to consider ... What should I say more? |
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ifinta
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March 08, 2020, 02:44:46 AM |
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I am shocked that IOTA has not lost more of its value.
It did not lost at all but gained. At start of the year price of IOTA was 15 cents now is 23 cents. This simply tells you that all prices in crypto have nothing to do with reality. Later it counts only the difference of selling price and buying price. The price between the two event don't matter. You have at this time not any "gain", you have some IOTA's and maybe you will able to sell it later - OR NOT. That counts for each person buying and selling coins. I and ServerNoMore are telling of price of the coin. He is surprised price did not decrease. I am surprised that price actually increased. No matter that this event that ended all transactions for more then a week happened. I think I'm right in saying that the Big Red Button was pushed at 17.20 on Feb 12th, at which time IOTA was trading around 34 cents. Today it's around 22.5 cents, a market cap shrink in the order of $300m. Nobody mention the ATH. OK, I will. $5.25. If you mIOTA'd 1 BTC then you'd have got ~ 3,272. Today you'd get ~ 39,420. Bargain? in other projects in the DLT market you become test-coins for FREE ... |
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ifinta
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March 08, 2020, 02:52:51 AM |
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Ahhh, well. The second (?) IOTA fork. I am curious, when join CfB to this diskussion AGAIN, to moderate it, and develop and start the TRUE IOTA-net - without any coord...! The list about the original investors is stored in this thread also! They are ready - mostly - I believe - to support the TRUE IOTA development of CfB and to establish a new IOTA foundation, if it needed AGAIN! The FIRST IOTA fork of David's dev-team, has at this time many issues, maybe possibilities also, maybe not a scam, but this thread belongs to CfB! This is the thread of the TRUE IOTA development! Any other development is only a fork or a scam! The only hope of me - the TRUE development AND later a TRUE START OF THE TRUE AND FIRST IOTA Network - of course a "little" later. ((as a TRUE investor of THE TRUE IOTA development before this actual scam-fork was started...)) This IOTA currently on the Market only TEST-IOTA's if we trying to taste it not a scam (?) David's scam only an early FORK, I think. This thread belongs to CfB! |
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April 01, 2020, 06:39:25 PM |
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Stop shitposting about scamcoins. |
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ifinta
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April 05, 2020, 02:59:51 PM |
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YES. Very big scam. Many victims. Sure. |
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April 05, 2020, 03:10:49 PM |
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YES. Very big scam. Many victims. Sure. IOTA is a complete scam, your inadequate knowledge for assessing this does not excuse its practices. |
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April 05, 2020, 04:42:23 PM
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YES. Very big scam. Many victims. Sure. IOTA is a complete scam, your inadequate knowledge for assessing this does not excuse its practices. To this scam to analyze we not need to much knowledge. It enough a question - What is on the DISTRIBUTED ledger market traded?On the DISTRIBUTED ledger market is traded SINCE YEARS a centralized SERVER-CLIENT solution. A very expensive kind of centralized SERVER-CLIENT solution on the i.e. coinmarket.com. The team donated through i.e. the EU (!!!!!).Some people owning more TERA tokens since the start of the IOTA mainnet (Is this a mainnet??? With testtokens???) known from the beginning, the token will be distributed through on one of the biggest DLT exchange - on bitfinex. Bitfinex has connections with Tether USD. ( insider trading - with victims...) Tether USD has since a year the biggest daily traded volume on the coinmarket.com. As Tether USD lost the peg a year ago - I thought - IOTA and Tether will be lost, but a big bank rescued both Tether and IOTA with a big big investment - approximately 1 000 000 000 USD. This amount was at that time equal ( a coincidence?) of IOTA market capitalization. (the traders behind IOTA used this fond to save IOTA's "value" artifically, I think) As the IOTA development costs consumed this fund, the IOTA market capitalization lost ~60% of its value - beautiful linear as the growth was after the start also......At this time remained only ~40% (with some support of a centralized insider trade behind!!! - and through many victims investing in IOTA up to today......) of its "start" value.  I think, no man will be support IOTA more, if this fund not more able to back the big big and expensive ( ~ 50M dollars pro month?) team - and the development not producing a REAL DLT product. After a such event - I think - it will be a need to replace IOTA in big projects at big firms... They won't wants drop the projects, sure. They take an another WORKING and WELL TESTED DLT projekt, and they will replace IOTA! We will see - sure - what will happens. I think it will come earlier a such event as this year ends. |
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April 05, 2020, 05:08:33 PM |
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I think, no man will be support IOTA more, if this fund not more able to back the big big and expensive team - and the development not producing a REAL DLT product.
After a such event - I think - it will be a need to replace IOTA in big projects at big firms... They won't wants drop the projects, sure. They take an another WORKING and WELL TESTED DLT projekt, and they will replace IOTA!
We will see - sure - what will happens. I think it will come earlier a such event as this year ends.
This is correct. First of all IOTA will never produce a decentralized solution the one that they have promised day one. This is a very difficult challenge to solve, and their people are not competent to say the least (ignoring the fact that their ethics are also backwards and no sane real cryptographer that has heard of how they behave will want to work with them). Second, the belief that IOTA (assuming they implemented a real DLT) will be used in companies is one of the biggest and most absurd bagholder dreams that I have heard of. Even if the technology was excellent, companies would fork IOTA and tell the original team to go away and play with their kid toys and let them produce more broken cryptography such as their homebrew hash.
Full scam information can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227016.0. |
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April 05, 2020, 05:31:30 PM
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... Second, the belief that IOTA (assuming they implemented a real DLT) will be used in companies is one of the biggest and most absurd bagholder dreams that I have heard of. Even if the technology was excellent, companies would fork IOTA and tell the original team to go away and play with their kid toys and let them produce more broken cryptography such as their homebrew hash. ... ... an unusable homebrew thing? ... Are you think i.e. an TRS80 or the orig Apple? ... Second, the belief that IOTA (assuming they implemented a real DLT) will be used in companies is one of the biggest and most absurd bagholder dreams that I have heard of. Even if the technology was excellent, companies would fork IOTA and tell the original team to go away and play with their kid toys and let them produce more broken cryptography such as their homebrew hash. ... ... an unusable homebrew thing? ... Are you think i.e. an TRS80 or the orig Apple? or a such "shit"?  ((or Torwald's Linux, Git, ...)) ((or Satoshi's early BTC ...)) ((or BCNext = CfB's NXT ...)) ((or Mark's GUN DB ...)) ... I belive in creativity.IOTA is SURE an ISSUE at big firms. Only a big firm (or a state, or states, ...) is able to support IOTA with such big amounts of liquid money ( 1 000 000 000 USD or monthly 50 M USD salary for a team... In a good homebrew project it isn't a need ). But to scam others with such possibilities, with such power - I find it terrible... |
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April 06, 2020, 05:34:08 AM
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ifinta please do not make consecutive posts that is against the forum rules! I belive in creativity.IOTA is SURE an ISSUE at big firms. Only a big firm (or a state, or states, ...) is able to support IOTA with such big amounts of liquid money ( 1 000 000 000 USD or monthly 50 M USD salary for a team... In a good homebrew project it isn't a need ). But to scam others with such possibilities, with such power - I find it terrible... No big firm would reasonably want to do something with IOTA, but it is not impossible that the IOTA team fraudulently misrepresents itself up until the point that the firm goes for it at first. This would not last given that I, among pretty much anyone else, can contact such firms. Reference: you are a corrosive Troll, so do not chirp about etiquette here!
go enlightening noobs about the dangers of cryptocurrencies elsewhere, silly little scam hunter
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April 06, 2020, 06:54:07 AM |
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ifinta please do not make consecutive posts that is against the forum rules!
No big firm would reasonably want to do something with IOTA, but it is not impossible that the IOTA team fraudulently misrepresents itself up until the point that the firm goes for it at first. This would not last given that I, among pretty much anyone else, can contact such firms.
you are a corrosive Troll, so do not chirp about etiquette here! go enlightening noobs about the dangers of cryptocurrencies elsewhere, silly little scam hunter |
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ifinta
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April 08, 2020, 10:36:30 AM |
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And we can criticize this scam through its MODERATED thread. We - Trolls It is nice. Many thanks to CfB to let publish, what is behind this scam token TODAY. |
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ifinta
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April 08, 2020, 07:55:46 PM |
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Ahhhh a RESEARCH. I did it also: https://learnmeabitcoin.com/guide/utxo Hmmm... Tangle remained? Or maybe in the next step Tangle will be REFORMED through a BLOCK-QUEUE or TXCHAIN? I try not to use the "obsolete" oldish (( or OLDISCH??? )) BLOCKCHAIN expression. |
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April 13, 2020, 07:19:58 PM
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April 13, 2020, 09:07:57 PM |
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April 15, 2020, 11:51:27 AM |
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Don't spread misinformation. It's a just mix of cherry picked bullshit in the thread you're referencing. If you lost funds, it's probably your own fault. Trinity hack victims will be compensated, IF handled this very well. I think IOTA is one of the most transparant and fair ecosystems in crypto. |
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