The Definition of a Low Quality Post

[Nextgen]

A important thing here would say it that it also doesn't really matter how users see it. It matters how the moderator who is judging the post sees it. There are people who are much softer and people who are stricter like me and Mitchell. I never understood why people complain about only a few of their posts being deleted.

this is pretty much the whole case ,some people are negative towards spam and some are just relaxed.
however nothing can exist without corruption and so OP's short posts may not be deleted even after being reported as he tends to be a trusted and vouched member of the forum and on the other hand some lengthy normal quality post might be deleted by some strict moderator as said by LAUDA because of personal views.
this issue is mostly because of Bit-x and yo bit campaign i would say , cause the other fixed campaign users dont have the reason to spam.

[bitcoin revo]

however nothing can exist without corruption and so OP's short posts may not be deleted even after being reported as he tends to be a trusted and vouched member of the forum

Absolutely, totally wrong. If, let's say, SebastianJu posted a meaningless reply that was necessary to be deleted (like most of the posts we see today around the forum), then I'm pretty sure none of the mods would hesitate to delete it simply because of his trust status.

this issue is mostly because of Bit-x and yo bit campaign i would say , cause the other fixed campaign users dont have the reason to spam.

I'm pretty sure that marco checks on a few posts on campaign users (not 100% sure though) to make sure that no posts are really "spam". I think I remember him excluding a few posts on certain members for being spam. Also, secondstrade isn't an automated signature campaign, but quite a number of their users are pretty spammy (IMHO).

[Nextgen]

however nothing can exist without corruption and so OP's short posts may not be deleted even after being reported as he tends to be a trusted and vouched member of the forum

Absolutely, totally wrong. If, let's say, SebastianJu posted a meaningless reply that was necessary to be deleted (like most of the posts we see today around the forum), then I'm pretty sure none of the mods would hesitate to delete it simply because of his trust status.

yes it is very much possible , so what ? it was just a possibility i was saying about .
i said " may not "

this issue is mostly because of Bit-x and yo bit campaign i would say , cause the other fixed campaign users dont have the reason to spam.

I'm pretty sure that marco checks on a few posts on campaign users (not 100% sure though) to make sure that no posts are really "spam". I think I remember him excluding a few posts on certain members for being spam. Also, secondstrade isn't an automated signature campaign, but quite a number of their users are pretty spammy (IMHO).

what is the relation between marco excluding the posts for the pay and the user is a spammer ? no connection.
the point i said was about the vulnerability and yes secondstrade is also spammy.

[dogie]

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["low quality posts"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it...

Same applies here.

[Lauda]

however nothing can exist without corruption and so OP's short posts may not be deleted even after being reported as he tends to be a trusted and vouched member of the forum and on the other hand some lengthy normal quality post might be deleted by some strict moderator as said by LAUDA because of personal views.

Corruption? You've got to be kidding. If you think that I'd not delete someones post just because of their position, trust or whatever then think twice. I do not care who the person is. If they break a rule then I'm going to act accordingly. Unfortunately I can not moderate such people at the moment (aside from 1 section). I can't say the same for others as I can't be sure and I've never checked for this.
You're wrong. I never said that a moderator is going to delete anything because of personal views. A moderator might let something slide, while the other one might delete it. This has nothing to do with personal views, but their interpretation of rules and how the act towards people who break them.

[mtnsaa]

Guys, this is a forum to exchange ideas and discuss. Not every post can be classified as a clear answer/solution and if it fails to provide that then it is spam or low quality. The bulk of them just add to the main conversation while keeping the thread flowing. Like the post I'm writing right now.

However I agree that I've seen some very poor attempts (bad english, grammar, punctuation) that seems to be aimed just to fill up a signature campaign quota. Like I mentioned previously, this is a job for campaign managers to do, they are the ones that should filter out what they feel are useless promotion. These users are actually doing damage to their brand/site instead of promoting it.

[rebuilder]

I've been wondering the same. I take it low-quality posts, in principle, should be reported and deleted by mods?

Here's a random sampling of different kinds of posts I, personally would consider low quality. Should I start reporting these (there would be a lot):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221975.0  (Off-topic for pretty much any section)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219370.msg12776639#msg12776639 (Adds nothing to discussion)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976903.msg10666566#msg10666566 (Seems to be posting just for the sake of posting)


In general a number of threads like "Where's satoshi" and "how do you use Bitcoin" seem to mainly serve as forums for sig campaigners to up their post counts. You'd have to try really hard to be off-topic in a thread like that. Not really something for mods to take action on, just an observation.

[xinzark]

I've been wondering the same. I take it low-quality posts, in principle, should be reported and deleted by mods?

Here's a random sampling of different kinds of posts I, personally would consider low quality. Should I start reporting these (there would be a lot):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221975.0  (Off-topic for pretty much any section)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219370.msg12776639#msg12776639 (Adds nothing to discussion)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976903.msg10666566#msg10666566 (Seems to be posting just for the sake of posting)


In general a number of threads like "Where's satoshi" and "how do you use Bitcoin" seem to mainly serve as forums for sig campaigners to up their post counts. You'd have to try really hard to be off-topic in a thread like that. Not really something for mods to take action on, just an observation.

Yes you should report them and help cleaning up this forum
The first link is on begginers and help board. It is not spam but it is off-topic related. So, you should report as wrong section and to be moved to off-topic

The second one seems probably to be a spam cause it adds no value to the topic. But I am not sure that should be considered a spam or not

But the third one doesn't seems spam to me. They are just discussing on methods.

And those two words answer is also 100% spam because if everyone knows that thing then why to post that again and again. Like we all know Bitcoin is a Digital currency then posting such things is totally spam

[Nextgen]

however nothing can exist without corruption and so OP's short posts may not be deleted even after being reported as he tends to be a trusted and vouched member of the forum and on the other hand some lengthy normal quality post might be deleted by some strict moderator as said by LAUDA because of personal views.

Corruption? You've got to be kidding. If you think that I'd not delete someones post just because of their position, trust or whatever then think twice. I do not care who the person is. If they break a rule then I'm going to act accordingly. Unfortunately I can not moderate such people at the moment (aside from 1 section). I can't say the same for others as I can't be sure and I've never checked for this.
You're wrong. I never said that a moderator is going to delete anything because of personal views. A moderator might let something slide, while the other one might delete it. This has nothing to do with personal views, but their interpretation of rules and how the act towards people who break them.

yeah so you alone are not considered as staff ? i never criticized you but i just pointed out a possibility.
these posts are of highly highly vouched member .
http://imgur.com/euIn1Dp

[TTMNewsMJ]

I can say that the length of a post doesn't really matter but if the post doesn't add or help anything to the discussion then I consider it low quality or insubstantial post.

[botany]

I can say that the length of a post doesn't really matter but if the post doesn't add or help anything to the discussion then I consider it low quality or insubstantial post.

@TTMSNewsMJ - It is very easy to find an insubstantial post.

For example, replies to the post "How old are you?"

I am 25

23 years old.

All this tells us is you turned 2 years younger in 11 days. Not very helpful, is it?  


Or, you can look at the posts in "Do you believe in ghosts" thread

Yes i do. They are real.

Yes I believe in ghost.

Yes I believe in ghost.

Multiple times for emphasis?  

[hilariousandco]

Yeah that's pretty funny seeing as his entire post history is spam. No idea what he's up to.

I can say that the length of a post doesn't really matter but if the post doesn't add or help anything to the discussion then I consider it low quality or insubstantial post.

You should take your own advice here.

[Lauda]

yeah so you alone are not considered as staff ? i never criticized you but i just pointed out a possibility.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here? What I originally said and meant was that each staff member is a different person. Each person has their own character. Some might not delete your low quality post, while some other might. This has nothing to do with personal views. Deleting something because of personal views, would be me deleting your post because I don't agree with it (obviously very wrong and nobody does this).

[TTMNewsMJ]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

[Russtie Beerkan]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

I'm pretty new here, but why would people post off topic at all anyhow, is it for signature campaign's or whatever they are i keep reading about? Makes sense they get deleted though, good!

[XinXan]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

The definition of low quality posts is in your profile, 520 posts with 28 activity? Jesus Christ, you made 520 posts in 20 days, thats insane and you are not even wearing a signature, i cant believe it.

[TTMNewsMJ]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

The definition of low quality posts is in your profile, 520 posts with 28 activity? Jesus Christ, you made 520 posts in 20 days, thats insane and you are not even wearing a signature, i cant believe it.

What's wrong with it? If there's a wrong about it then my apologies. I am only new here but I'm trying to fit myself in this kind of forum. The thing that I don't understand at all is why they are always judging me. They don't even know how to understand my situation.

[mocacinno]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

The definition of low quality posts is in your profile, 520 posts with 28 activity? Jesus Christ, you made 520 posts in 20 days, thats insane and you are not even wearing a signature, i cant believe it.

What's wrong with it? If there's a wrong about it then my apologies. I am only new here but I'm trying to fit myself in this kind of forum. The thing that I don't understand at all is why they are always judging me. They don't even know how to understand my situation.

The fact that you're not wearing a signature is actually a good thing IMO... If you made 520 posts in 20 days, but you were wearing a signature, people would jump to the conclusion that you were spamming a sig campaign...
In your case: in my opinion, you look like somebody who just likes to post... Which is OK for me

[Slark]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

The definition of low quality posts is in your profile, 520 posts with 28 activity? Jesus Christ, you made 520 posts in 20 days, thats insane and you are not even wearing a signature, i cant believe it.

What's wrong with it? If there's a wrong about it then my apologies. I am only new here but I'm trying to fit myself in this kind of forum. The thing that I don't understand at all is why they are always judging me. They don't even know how to understand my situation.

The fact that you're not wearing a signature is actually a good thing IMO... If you made 520 posts in 20 days, but you were wearing a signature, people would jump to the conclusion that you were spamming a sig campaign...
In your case: in my opinion, you look like somebody who just likes to post... Which is OK for me

So banning people who 'like to post' is wrong but banning people who like to post, plus are wearing signature at the same time is a justified act?
I sense a disturbance in the force here.

[TTMNewsMJ]

I think the definition of the low quality post is that they are posting but not related to the topic. That's why their posts are being deleted.

The definition of low quality posts is in your profile, 520 posts with 28 activity? Jesus Christ, you made 520 posts in 20 days, thats insane and you are not even wearing a signature, i cant believe it.

What's wrong with it? If there's a wrong about it then my apologies. I am only new here but I'm trying to fit myself in this kind of forum. The thing that I don't understand at all is why they are always judging me. They don't even know how to understand my situation.

The fact that you're not wearing a signature is actually a good thing IMO... If you made 520 posts in 20 days, but you were wearing a signature, people would jump to the conclusion that you were spamming a sig campaign...
In your case: in my opinion, you look like somebody who just likes to post... Which is OK for me

So banning people who 'like to post' is wrong but banning people who like to post, plus are wearing signature at the same time is a justified act?
I sense a disturbance in the force here.

I can't understand it very well. If there's no problem on posting then why there are people who are judging me because I am posting a lot?
I am not a spammer though. I am just working because I need to earn a lot for my studies.