rumors of 3.5Th antminer S7 "lite"

[notlist3d]

Does anybody know when the S7 Lite or scaled down S7 suppose to come out ? or in fact more S7's

 

This is what the source said:

New s7 information
bitmain told me that new s7 will be released to market after another 10 days, so should be on 10th Nov, they deduce the chip amount on s7, so the hashrate of new s7 will be only around 3.5T. The price for new s7 still under discussion and will be released next week

No one really knows if that is true or not.  We will see in not to long hopefully.

[Amph]

now that i'm looking to it, i doubt that it will cost half of its big brother, it does not make sense, everyone would buy this instead

i would guess 3/4 of the price of a standard s7, since this is 3/4 in power

[RichBC]

now that i'm looking to it, i doubt that it will cost half of its big brother, it does not make sense, everyone would buy this instead

i would guess 3/4 of the price of a standard s7, since this is 3/4 in power

It will actually be 2/3 of the Power, however I am hoping it will be around $1000. It will then have to respond to releases by Avalon & BW.com which will hopefully pull it down?


Rich

[alienesb]

It's kind of funny that when I have coin to spend there's nothing actually for sale "new."

[dog1965]

Is this real or fake ? if its real which I doubt the specs are awesome and great competition for BITMAIN so they lower there price.


https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

[philipma1957]

Is this real or fake ? if its real which I doubt the specs are awesome and great competition for BITMAIN so they lower there price.


https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

the company is real and has been around a while.  not sure what it sells for

same power use about .26  for  them vs .25 for bitmain

[notlist3d]

Is this real or fake ? if its real which I doubt the specs are awesome and great competition for BITMAIN so they lower there price.


https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

the company is real and has been around a while.  not sure what it sells for

same power use about .26  for  them vs .25 for bitmain

I wish they would go into a tad more detail like Avalon.  I want to know if it can underclock.   I really find underclocking to help my ROI long term.   

They gave us enough to get hooked and want more.  But still need a lot of info.

[QuintLeo]

Is this real or fake ?

The B-Eleven has not been released yet - it appears to be targeted to be released in December, and all available signs point to it being "real" in the sence that it's being actively worked on by a reputable company and will be "real" and for sale fairly soon.

 Most of the specs seem to be out there except price - current speculation is that the price might be around .87 Bitcoin/TH but there's at least one other post that had the price listed as $500/TH with ZERO reference to where that price came from.

 BW.com is in part owned by Lketc of "Dragon miner" fame, THEY have been around awhile and their equipment has a good reputation for being reliable (but heavy).
 There has been speculation that it will be using the "tapeout announced a few months back" Innosilicon A3 chips, given Lketc's relationship with Innosilicon from the A1 chip days and the similarity of what specs have been announced between the B-Eleven and the A3, but nothing is certain on that front yet AFAIK.

 IMO for any miner to be viable at this point in the .2-.3 watt/TH range, they need to drop the price down to 1BTC OR LESS per TH - as of right now, none of the currently available "new gen" or announced "next gen" miners has a viable chance to achieve RoI if your electric rate is over 3 cents / KWH, and they're all REAL MARGINAL even with 3cent power.

[dog1965]

Anybody have the link to this company were I can buy it if it comes out ? not the cloud link the company link ?

[VirosaGITS]

Anybody have the link to this company were I can buy it if it comes out ? not the cloud link the company link ?

It would be here; https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm

But it does not exist yet. If you see one and its not announced first, then its a scam. Don't do it.

[notlist3d]

Anybody have the link to this company were I can buy it if it comes out ? not the cloud link the company link ?

It would be here; https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm

But it does not exist yet. If you see one and its not announced first, then its a scam. Don't do it.

No one knows for sure.  A big hoster leaked a date along with info of a lite version.  So far he is only person to claim this I think.  But he is very big in hosting so a decent amount of creditability have been given to it, compared to if some random person said it:

New s7 information
bitmain told me that new s7 will be released to market after another 10 days, so should be on 10th Nov, they deduce the chip amount on s7, so the hashrate of new s7 will be only around 3.5T. The price for new s7 still under discussion and will be released next week

Only time will tell if/when it happens.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

Is this real or fake ?

The B-Eleven has not been released yet - it appears to be targeted to be released in December, and all available signs point to it being "real" in the sence that it's being actively worked on by a reputable company and will be "real" and for sale fairly soon.

 Most of the specs seem to be out there except price - current speculation is that the price might be around .87 Bitcoin/TH but there's at least one other post that had the price listed as $500/TH with ZERO reference to where that price came from.

 BW.com is in part owned by Lketc of "Dragon miner" fame, THEY have been around awhile and their equipment has a good reputation for being reliable (but heavy).
 There has been speculation that it will be using the "tapeout announced a few months back" Innosilicon A3 chips, given Lketc's relationship with Innosilicon from the A1 chip days and the similarity of what specs have been announced between the B-Eleven and the A3, but nothing is certain on that front yet AFAIK.

 IMO for any miner to be viable at this point in the .2-.3 watt/TH range, they need to drop the price down to 1BTC OR LESS per TH - as of right now, none of the currently available "new gen" or announced "next gen" miners has a viable chance to achieve RoI if your electric rate is over 3 cents / KWH, and they're all REAL MARGINAL even with 3cent power.

BW is already pre-selling B-Eleven hash at 0.78 bitcoin per TH/s with 4700 + TH unsold out of 10000 TH. They predict Jan 1, 2016 delivery.

[notlist3d]

Is this real or fake ?

The B-Eleven has not been released yet - it appears to be targeted to be released in December, and all available signs point to it being "real" in the sence that it's being actively worked on by a reputable company and will be "real" and for sale fairly soon.

 Most of the specs seem to be out there except price - current speculation is that the price might be around .87 Bitcoin/TH but there's at least one other post that had the price listed as $500/TH with ZERO reference to where that price came from.

 BW.com is in part owned by Lketc of "Dragon miner" fame, THEY have been around awhile and their equipment has a good reputation for being reliable (but heavy).
 There has been speculation that it will be using the "tapeout announced a few months back" Innosilicon A3 chips, given Lketc's relationship with Innosilicon from the A1 chip days and the similarity of what specs have been announced between the B-Eleven and the A3, but nothing is certain on that front yet AFAIK.

 IMO for any miner to be viable at this point in the .2-.3 watt/TH range, they need to drop the price down to 1BTC OR LESS per TH - as of right now, none of the currently available "new gen" or announced "next gen" miners has a viable chance to achieve RoI if your electric rate is over 3 cents / KWH, and they're all REAL MARGINAL even with 3cent power.

BW is already pre-selling B-Eleven hash at 0.78 bitcoin per TH/s with 4700 + TH unsold out of 10000 TH. They predict Jan 1, 2016 delivery.

If they sell a physical miner at .78 per TH and are close to january even, they would sell MANY of these.  That is a heck of a price per TH.

Will be intersting to see what happens.  I really want more info about these units.

[VirosaGITS]

Is this real or fake ?

The B-Eleven has not been released yet - it appears to be targeted to be released in December, and all available signs point to it being "real" in the sence that it's being actively worked on by a reputable company and will be "real" and for sale fairly soon.

 Most of the specs seem to be out there except price - current speculation is that the price might be around .87 Bitcoin/TH but there's at least one other post that had the price listed as $500/TH with ZERO reference to where that price came from.

 BW.com is in part owned by Lketc of "Dragon miner" fame, THEY have been around awhile and their equipment has a good reputation for being reliable (but heavy).
 There has been speculation that it will be using the "tapeout announced a few months back" Innosilicon A3 chips, given Lketc's relationship with Innosilicon from the A1 chip days and the similarity of what specs have been announced between the B-Eleven and the A3, but nothing is certain on that front yet AFAIK.

 IMO for any miner to be viable at this point in the .2-.3 watt/TH range, they need to drop the price down to 1BTC OR LESS per TH - as of right now, none of the currently available "new gen" or announced "next gen" miners has a viable chance to achieve RoI if your electric rate is over 3 cents / KWH, and they're all REAL MARGINAL even with 3cent power.

BW is already pre-selling B-Eleven hash at 0.78 bitcoin per TH/s with 4700 + TH unsold out of 10000 TH. They predict Jan 1, 2016 delivery.

If they sell a physical miner at .78 per TH and are close to january even, they would sell MANY of these.  That is a heck of a price per TH.

Will be intersting to see what happens.  I really want more info about these units.

Kind of a lot of money to throw at a pre-order that may come out way too late. Especially with the current Diff increase. It look like profitability will a drop by quite a bit. Also, is that site even trusted? I never heard of it.

[notlist3d]

Is this real or fake ?

The B-Eleven has not been released yet - it appears to be targeted to be released in December, and all available signs point to it being "real" in the sence that it's being actively worked on by a reputable company and will be "real" and for sale fairly soon.

 Most of the specs seem to be out there except price - current speculation is that the price might be around .87 Bitcoin/TH but there's at least one other post that had the price listed as $500/TH with ZERO reference to where that price came from.

 BW.com is in part owned by Lketc of "Dragon miner" fame, THEY have been around awhile and their equipment has a good reputation for being reliable (but heavy).
 There has been speculation that it will be using the "tapeout announced a few months back" Innosilicon A3 chips, given Lketc's relationship with Innosilicon from the A1 chip days and the similarity of what specs have been announced between the B-Eleven and the A3, but nothing is certain on that front yet AFAIK.

 IMO for any miner to be viable at this point in the .2-.3 watt/TH range, they need to drop the price down to 1BTC OR LESS per TH - as of right now, none of the currently available "new gen" or announced "next gen" miners has a viable chance to achieve RoI if your electric rate is over 3 cents / KWH, and they're all REAL MARGINAL even with 3cent power.

BW is already pre-selling B-Eleven hash at 0.78 bitcoin per TH/s with 4700 + TH unsold out of 10000 TH. They predict Jan 1, 2016 delivery.

If they sell a physical miner at .78 per TH and are close to january even, they would sell MANY of these.  That is a heck of a price per TH.

Will be intersting to see what happens.  I really want more info about these units.

Kind of a lot of money to throw at a pre-order that may come out way too late. Especially with the current Diff increase. It look like profitability will a drop by quite a bit. Also, is that site even trusted? I never heard of it.

They come from a trusted company LKETC I believe:

BW.com was established in Aug. 2014, co-founded by one of the largest miner manufacturers in the world---LK Group, Ltd and one of the largest exchanges in the world---CHBTC.com. BW is dedicated to providing users a simple, professional, safe and efficient mining platform

LKETC was once very trusted and pumped out ton's of A1's (1T dragons).   But so far there are just renderings... I don't think we have seen a prototype.  I kinda have a rule to not invest on renderings just as it does not prove a whole lot.  I think they will have the miner, and make a massive cloud service.  But january... not sure on if they hit that.

[Amph]

Is this real or fake ? if its real which I doubt the specs are awesome and great competition for BITMAIN so they lower there price.


https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

if this is real then it seems that it could be bigger than the s7, because the hashpower it say that is still unknown, from 3 to 10 tera, i doubt it will be 5th as it will be like the s7

and 10th would mean a much greater investment for miners, i hope for 3th

[VirosaGITS]

Is this real or fake ? if its real which I doubt the specs are awesome and great competition for BITMAIN so they lower there price.


https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

if this is real then it seems that it could be bigger than the s7, because the hashpower it say that is still unknown, from 3 to 10 tera, i doubt it will be 5th as it will be like the s7

and 10th would mean a much greater investment for miners, i hope for 3th

It kinda sound like they came up with a business plan and they don't have any work done beside some sketch and they want money to fund the development. We all know how these things went in the past...

I'd sure like some more steak to the gravy before throwing money that won't earn a cent for a long time, or maybe never.

[QuintLeo]

Based on the posted info, it appears there might be 3 models specificically planned with option to add one or more additional models later - one at appx. 3TH, one at appx. 5TH, and one at appx. 10TH.

 I speculate (based on the renderings posted info) that this might mean one case used with either 1 hashboard, 2 hashboard, or 3/4 hashboard options (the renderings appear to show space for 3, dunno if they can cram 4 in).

It kinda sound like they came up with a business plan and they don't have any work done beside some sketch and they want money to fund the development. We all know how these things went in the past...

 Doesn't seem likely in this case, Lketc has a good rep for delivering on their claims.
 On the other hand, actual miners have NOT gone on presale, just the hashing.

[RichBC]

It kinda sound like they came up with a business plan and they don't have any work done beside some sketch and they want money to fund the development. We all know how these things went in the past...

I'd sure like some more steak to the gravy before throwing money that won't earn a cent for a long time, or maybe never.

If this was owned by a lesser organisation than LK Group Limited and CHBTC I would agree with you. I think it "will be" real however, there is high risk in the 14nm technology. I think a number of Companies have felt the need to make announcements a bit ahead of when they were fully ready in reaction to the Bitmain S7. So this B-Eleven & the Avalon6 fall into this category.


Rich

[notlist3d]

It kinda sound like they came up with a business plan and they don't have any work done beside some sketch and they want money to fund the development. We all know how these things went in the past...

I'd sure like some more steak to the gravy before throwing money that won't earn a cent for a long time, or maybe never.

If this was owned by a lesser organisation than LK Group Limited and CHBTC I would agree with you. I think it "will be" real however, there is high risk in the 14nm technology. I think a number of Companies have felt the need to make announcements a bit ahead of when they were fully ready in reaction to the Bitmain S7. So this B-Eleven & the Avalon6 fall into this category.


Rich

I would agree this is not a standard rendering where they are out to scam.  This a big company and released quite a few products in the past.

14nm is going to be interesting if they heat deadlines.   The ones that stayed at 28nm seem to be the current winners.   Avalon if true at all on timeframe we should see it in a few weeks.  But we all know how some products can be on deadlines. 

I find it interesting that avalon 6 and new rumored new s7 are so close together in time frames.    One could have did a announcement to effect others sales. Its quite a cut throat business.