Why I really hate SomethingAwful

[myrkul]

Now, for the first time, it's possible for a program or a "virus" to own money, decide on its own how to spend it, and actually take it with it as it travels around the web. The possibilities for AI, concept of property, and ownership/copyright law are mind boggling.

This is really creepy. Do anyone know if this concept is used in fiction yet? It is an intriguing train of thought.

Yup: Daemon.

[securo]

Now, for the first time, it's possible for a program or a "virus" to own money, decide on its own how to spend it, and actually take it with it as it travels around the web. The possibilities for AI, concept of property, and ownership/copyright law are mind boggling.

This is really creepy. Do anyone know if this concept is used in fiction yet? It is an intriguing train of thought.

Yup: Daemon.

Thanks, myrkul. They are on my wish list.

[Lethn]

..... $300 for what is essentially a hentai drawing? People can draw whatever they like but as an artist even I have a hard time justifying that price, I look at paintings like the mona lisa etc.

Much of that $300 was for printing out such a large thing on photo paper on a large plotter. It was a lot of ink. The original went for that much because it was from a very well known artist, or a very well known subject, and the price included all the original parts of the art, including sketches and Adobe Photoshop files. It was only because the person who won it at the auction received the Photoshop files that I was able to get a huge print from him.

If it's just to cover the cost I can understand but then I end up asking "Who the hell wants a hentai picture that big being displayed for everyone to see in their house?" LOL

[myrkul]

..... $300 for what is essentially a hentai drawing? People can draw whatever they like but as an artist even I have a hard time justifying that price, I look at paintings like the mona lisa etc.

Much of that $300 was for printing out such a large thing on photo paper on a large plotter. It was a lot of ink. The original went for that much because it was from a very well known artist, or a very well known subject, and the price included all the original parts of the art, including sketches and Adobe Photoshop files. It was only because the person who won it at the auction received the Photoshop files that I was able to get a huge print from him.

If it's just to cover the cost I can understand but then I end up asking "Who the hell wants a hentai picture that big being displayed for everyone to see in their house?" LOL

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20203

Like I said, to each his own. The only thing that differentiates it, in my mind, from "David," is the erection.

[Lethn]

Yeah to each their own, but let's put it this way, I enjoy lesbian BDSM but that doesn't mean I'm going to spend over $1000 to have a gigantic picture of two women doing it plastered over my wall..... Well I might do it if I knew some deeply religious people were going to visit but that's another story

[myrkul]

Yeah to each their own, but let's put it this way, I enjoy lesbian BDSM but that doesn't mean I'm going to spend over $1000 to have a gigantic picture of two women doing it plastered over my wall..... Well I might do it if I knew some deeply religious people were going to visit but that's another story

It's not porn. It's art. Maybe not in the best taste (as evinced by the fact that he hides the erection with a remote - Is it one of those big multi-function remotes, btw, or a dinky little A/C unit remote? Actually, forget I asked. ), but it's art. If it were a picture of a sexual act, then yes, maybe you'd have a point. But it's not. Just a dude ready for sexual activity... like we all are, first thing in the morning. A candid portrait, if you will.


Sorry, Rassah, to have dragged this out into the open again.

[Lethn]

lol!

Edit: Also, have the mods disabled smilies entirely from the board?

[myrkul]

lol!

Edit: Also, have the mods disabled smilies entirely from the board?

No, I suspect that's a setting on your end. I see 'em just fine.

[Rassah]

The erection is actually part of a joke in the picture. The content is a play on words, referencing morning coffee as a pick-me-up sorta thing (except having both, coffee and wood). And the art is damn good. If it was a really well drawn anime pic (hentai), and if I was into such a thing, I probably would've displayed that, instead. I've definitely come across people with such as their computer backgrounds. As for displaying it publicly, as mentioned, it's mostly covered, plus being able to do that is a major benefit of not living with my parents (we own our house), and being in a relationship with someone who is attracted to the same things I am.
I'm sure if all girls out there were into lesbian porn as well, guys with girlfriends/wives would decorate their homes with it too  

[makomk]

As an example of what I mean, remember that judge who was caught on camera beating his daughter a while ago? She is/was an SA member. Her father apparently just got reinstated and you can find the SA discussion of it here. Well, I say that, but the thread immediately got derailed into talking about how she and her lawyer are weirdo furry freaks and she obviously deserved it. Once goons spy one of their favourite obsessions they forget everything else... humanity, common decency, you name it.

[repentance]

As an example of what I mean, remember that judge who was caught on camera beating his daughter a while ago? She is/was an SA member. Her father apparently just got reinstated and you can find the SA discussion of it here. Well, I say that, but the thread immediately got derailed into talking about how she and her lawyer are weirdo furry freaks and she obviously deserved it. Once goons spy one of their favourite obsessions they forget everything else... humanity, common decency, you name it.

With due respect, there were plenty of people saying the opposite - that, yes, shoe seems pretty messed up and none of the players in the drama are particularly likeable but no matter what she did not deserve those beatings.  The scariest people of all in that thread were the ones saying "well, it's Texas and beating your kid is legal there, so what's the big deal", as well as the "one mistake shouldn't ruin someone's career" chorus.

In the original thread, the reason why people were telling her to delete the furry stuff and the bestiality-related stuff was because if the media got hold of it she would lose a lot of public sympathy and her father would use it to portray her as crazy.  It wasn't - for the most part - "ewww, furries" (an attitude which definitely does exist on SA, for reasons I don't totally understand) in that particular instance.  She made some terrible judgements in how she handled the attention she got at that time and people were trying very hard to stop her from digging herself into an ever-deepening hole.  Goons being goons, they weren't happy when she ignored that advice and started pissing in the well.

She is actively disliked by many now, mostly due to the racist comments and the bestiality stuff (which she now claims was trolling but if that's the case she was trolling a lot of places).  That doesn't - and never should - excuse or in any way be used justify the beatings she received as a teenager. 

She's started a new thread on reddit and it will be interesting to see whether that deteriorates in the same way the reddit threads did last year.  Hillary and her mother are seeking donations to establish a foundation for abuse victims.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/11telw/in_the_wake_of_domestic_abuser_judge_william/

[Lethn]

I think it has become my duty in life to make morons like these look like the morons they are to everyone.

[Kluge]

SomethingAwful is a ponzi and what the Hell is this.

[imanikin]

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3) Bitcoin is a new financial concept entirely without precedent.
...

I find the Bitcoin beatings at SomethingAwful, FatWallet and the like to be amusing, and a waste of time to take seriously or debate. Those of us who understand Bitcoin and the harbinger of radical change that it is, know that the peanut gallery at those sites is at least short-sighted.

As has been said here before, Bitcoin is following the classic Gandhi sequence, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

Right now, seems like we are in the transition from laughing to fighting, and the ignore stage has long since passed.

The silver lining in the SomethingAwful et al groups is also the relatively low fiat/Btc rate.

Imagine what it would be if they took Btc seriously.

So, enjoy their ridicule, because chances are that Bitcoin or its successors will make the doubters and hecklers reconsider or at least stop laughing...   

[Snaer]

I've spent the last week reading through the BitCoin thread over at SA, and I hate to say it, but they've called it every time an "investment" turned out to be a scam and for the most part they are quite right about a lot of the BCT community. It's so insular here that a lot of people either can't, or don't want to see it. I feel like a lot of ridicule stems from people not listening to them.

The majority of their threads revolve around this community and not BitCoin itself. It's clear that there's money to be had in BitCoin, and quite a few SA members have made quite a chunk of change off it. However, they got into it very early.

You might want to open your mind a little bit and learn to take constructive criticism. A lot of the so called "trolls" are actually rather helpful. Look at that one guy who has put a ton of effort into Dank's Hookah Lounge and Bank threads, trying to teach him basics of running a business. It's not their fault Dank won't listen. That's a lesson that should apply to everyone here.

Just my BTC0.2!

-Zoey

[Lethn]

A lot of the investments clearly are scams, I played EVE Online for a bit so I can see them a mile off the thing these people don't realise is, there's constructive criticism and then there's just being a cunt which I've been on the receiving end of myself and it was one of those things where I realised I'm actually giving myself far better critique than some people ever could.


Good critique Example:




Anything less than this is just pathetic trolling in my view and it amazes me that these people have the time to troll other people for hours on end and yet they can't even provide basic fucking critique on what is technically wrong with something. I've seen the hate on Bitcoin and very little goes into the detail of why it's bad and the best the government bodies have been able to come up with is because it 'could' be used by criminals. Believe it or not, I do actually like criticism but unless you're going to go into the technical aspects of why something is bad then I'm going to call you out on your bullshit.

[dank]

I've spent the last week reading through the BitCoin thread over at SA, and I hate to say it, but they've called it every time an "investment" turned out to be a scam and for the most part they are quite right about a lot of the BCT community. It's so insular here that a lot of people either can't, or don't want to see it. I feel like a lot of ridicule stems from people not listening to them.

The majority of their threads revolve around this community and not BitCoin itself. It's clear that there's money to be had in BitCoin, and quite a few SA members have made quite a chunk of change off it. However, they got into it very early.

You might want to open your mind a little bit and learn to take constructive criticism. A lot of the so called "trolls" are actually rather helpful. Look at that one guy who has put a ton of effort into Dank's Hookah Lounge and Bank threads, trying to teach him basics of running a business. It's not their fault Dank won't listen. That's a lesson that should apply to everyone here.

Just my BTC0.2!

-Zoey

That's because they call every investment a scam.  They were (are) wrong about Dank Bank as well.

Are you talking about monster ant?  Why would I thank someone who calls you a fucking sponge every other sentence?  Another thing that I tried to make clear, I do listen to people's feedback, I just have little respect for people full of hate.

[Mushroomized]

Honestly the epitome of tl;dr & 'u mad'

[Lethn]

[Snaer]

I've spent the last week reading through the BitCoin thread over at SA, and I hate to say it, but they've called it every time an "investment" turned out to be a scam and for the most part they are quite right about a lot of the BCT community. It's so insular here that a lot of people either can't, or don't want to see it. I feel like a lot of ridicule stems from people not listening to them.

The majority of their threads revolve around this community and not BitCoin itself. It's clear that there's money to be had in BitCoin, and quite a few SA members have made quite a chunk of change off it. However, they got into it very early.

You might want to open your mind a little bit and learn to take constructive criticism. A lot of the so called "trolls" are actually rather helpful. Look at that one guy who has put a ton of effort into Dank's Hookah Lounge and Bank threads, trying to teach him basics of running a business. It's not their fault Dank won't listen. That's a lesson that should apply to everyone here.

Just my BTC0.2!

-Zoey

That's because they call every investment a scam.  They were (are) wrong about Dank Bank as well.

Are you talking about monster ant?  Why would I thank someone who calls you a fucking sponge every other sentence?  Another thing that I tried to make clear, I do listen to people's feedback, I just have little respect for people full of hate.

Sorry hon, Dank Bank kind of is a Ponzi... I also read your whole Hookah thread and Monster-Ant started off respectful but it degraded quickly because of how poorly you took criticism.

Anything less than this is just pathetic trolling in my view and it amazes me that these people have the time to troll other people for hours on end and yet they can't even provide basic fucking critique on what is technically wrong with something. I've seen the hate on Bitcoin and very little goes into the detail of why it's bad and the best the government bodies have been able to come up with is because it 'could' be used by criminals. Believe it or not, I do actually like criticism but unless you're going to go into the technical aspects of why something is bad then I'm going to call you out on your bullshit.

Actually, if you read the thread on SA they go into great detail about what's wrong with the investments and certain aspects of BitCoin in general. There appears to be quite a few people who are MBAs, finance majors, bankers and brokers over there. Haven taken quite a few finance courses in college it's all pretty sound advice. I'd also like to point out what they're doing isn't really trolling. Making fun of somebody and pointing out obvious flaws in people's logic isn't trolling. I'm sure a lot of them jump on the bandwagon in making fun without quite knowing what's going on, but tons of people do that here as well, in this very thread in fact.

I'm not trying to defend them, but you really should know what you're talking about before you blast somebody. Plus, it seems they do a lot of good for the internet; they're involved in charities, they've been the spearhead in taking down Reddit's pedo section, hell, one of their members was killed in that attack on the consulate in Libya and they raised over $50k for his family.

On the flip side there is quite a bit of dumb and just plain mean stuff that goes on over there. The way they grief people in online games is a good example.

As for the furry issue, I'd have to say I agree with the stance that's its disgusting and everyone involved needs psychological help. In my time on the internet, I've seen a lot of furries equate their fetish with being gay, which... Yeah, just no. You weren't born that way. It's something you picked up through environmental means and use it to be a unique special snowflake. The fact that this wasn't a thing before the internet is very telling. Basically, they start hanging around on boards and chatrooms with more of their kind, which is just a huge echo chamber. This makes them believe that what they're doing is normal and alright.

Then you get to the point where you have an anthropomorphic fox with a huge erection on your coffee table and when someone says, "Ew gross!" they scream that they're being persecuted because someone rightfully made fun of them.

Here's a tip: If cartoon animals turn you on, you're fucked up in the head and should seek help.

I realize I'm being aggressive here, but I'm tired of people placating made up issues when there's real shit in the real world that we need to deal with. Like Gay Rights and Women's Rights.

-Zoey