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November 26, 2012, 05:57:31 PM |
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Cannot duplicate? Here's the precise procedure: Bet on the right column (3,6,9,...,36), and wait for 0 to come. It is taken as a win!
I can duplicate it just fine. If the game wasn't quite so slow I would duplicate it over and over and win some bitcoins, but I don't have the patience. Here's a screenshot of it happening though since the site owner doesn't seem to want to believe you: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxEF33.png&t=665&c=ckoP2uqevP0c2Q) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDgX4V.png&t=665&c=Y6OOZbRnk6Xu-Q)
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flooraccount (OP)
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November 26, 2012, 06:20:30 PM |
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Cannot duplicate? Here's the precise procedure: Bet on the right column (3,6,9,...,36), and wait for 0 to come. It is taken as a win!
Thus the average win-chances for that column would be 13/37 instead of 12/37, and if someone played long enough, and (naively)assuming a fair roll, one could cheat the casino.
regards, avl42 (1Luckymevp8jsHi7gZZcRsat3QPG3AFM4j) I really think I deserve a good bounty for that report.
Not that I don't believe you. I was having trouble determining how you were coming up with the results. I do see the screenshot now. I will send this over to programming and have it looked at. ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.23 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com
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November 26, 2012, 06:29:34 PM |
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Thanks. Would it be rude to play the 3-36 line on roulette with the free chips? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Edit: I logged in, and the site tells me: "You have 0 chips." Edit2: Because you sent them to my wallet, not my casino account. So now I have to wait for 3 confirmations - which is probably long enough for your programmer to fix the bug. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 26, 2012, 06:32:54 PM |
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Thanks. Would it be rude to play the 3-36 line on roulette with the free chips? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Edit: I logged in, and the site tells me: "You have 0 chips." Edit2: Because you sent them to my wallet, not my casino account. So now I have to wait for 3 confirmations - which is probably long enough for your programmer to fix the bug. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This will not be fixed today. ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.23 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.luckybitcoincasino.com%2F%2Fimg%2F468x60banner.gif&t=665&c=20xWQDMX5M8wAQ)
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AvL42
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November 26, 2012, 06:37:40 PM |
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Thanks! Would it be rude to play the 3-36 line on roulette with the free chips? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Go for it. I have not tested this in Real mode yet. Fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 26, 2012, 08:51:43 PM |
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Would it be rude to play the 3-36 line on roulette with the free chips? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Go for it. I have not tested this in Real mode yet. There doesn't seem to be a difference between play and real money as far as the 3-36 line paying out on zero too. I did a few hundred spins, and even though the odds are in my favour, I'm still losing. I just had a weird spin. The animation kind of stuttered, and the ball landed somewhere other than where the game said it did. Here's a screenshot (in which you can also see how well I'm doing 'exploiting' your bug...): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV4DKy.png&t=665&c=b9mKZkGlSvx2Pg)
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November 26, 2012, 09:33:59 PM |
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I did a few hundred spins, and even though the odds are in my favour, I'm still losing.
I ended up getting bored, increasing my bet size, and losing it all. I kept track of the results. Betting on the 3-36 line, I had 191 losing spins, 84 winning spins, and 8 zeroes, which also counted as wins. So even with the extra wins from the zeros, I still had more than twice as many losses as wins. Stats: >0, not on 3-36 line, losing spins: 191 = 67.49% (expected: 64.86%) >0 on the 3-36 line, winning spins: 84 = 29.68% (expected: 32.43%) zero spins: 8 = 2.83% (expected 2.70%) I guess once again I was just unlucky... It's a good thing I don't gamble, eh? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 26, 2012, 10:16:53 PM |
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Would it be rude to play the 3-36 line on roulette with the free chips? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Go for it. I have not tested this in Real mode yet. There doesn't seem to be a difference between play and real money as far as the 3-36 line paying out on zero too. I did a few hundred spins, and even though the odds are in my favour, I'm still losing. I just had a weird spin. The animation kind of stuttered, and the ball landed somewhere other than where the game said it did. Here's a screenshot (in which you can also see how well I'm doing 'exploiting' your bug...): Yeah that shuttering is probably your internet connection. I guess what people should realize it that if you lose internet connection, the game result win or lose is logged into the database as soon as you press play. Graphics are just for the human eye. ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.23 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.luckybitcoincasino.com%2F%2Fimg%2F468x60banner.gif&t=665&c=20xWQDMX5M8wAQ)
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AvL42
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November 26, 2012, 11:06:21 PM |
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Graphics are just for the human eye.
Wait, you mean there isn't a physics-engine simulating the ball roll??? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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dooglus
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November 27, 2012, 12:05:34 AM |
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Yeah that shuttering is probably your internet connection. I guess what people should realize it that if you lose internet connection, the game result win or lose is logged into the database as soon as you press play. Graphics are just for the human eye.
I regularly see the ball staying in one spot as the wheel spins, and assumed that was happening while the client communicated with the server to see where the ball should land. But one time the wheel froze as well, which is different. And the ball landed in a different slot than the text said it did (as shown in the screenshot I posted). I'd like an option to speed up (or remove) the animation. I don't want or need the spinning wheel graphics, and waiting for it is kind of frustrating after a while.
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AvL42
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November 27, 2012, 12:18:50 AM |
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I'd like an option to speed up (or remove) the animation. I don't want or need the spinning wheel graphics, and waiting for it is kind of frustrating after a while.
100% agree. Have another button added to where help,sound,music,exit are now, in order to turn on/off animations. Alternatively, make another (forth) roulette-variant that is totally barebones, for nerds ;-)
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flooraccount (OP)
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November 27, 2012, 12:22:33 AM |
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I'd like an option to speed up (or remove) the animation. I don't want or need the spinning wheel graphics, and waiting for it is kind of frustrating after a while.
100% agree. Have another button added to where help,sound,music,exit are now, in order to turn on/off animations. Alternatively, make another (forth) roulette-variant that is totally barebones, for nerds ;-) Ironically, I would like to see this as well for Bitcoin users. We will definitely think about doing this. This is our first Bitcoin Casino. All our other casino's were geared towards main stream market and people from that market have never requested this. ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.23 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.luckybitcoincasino.com%2F%2Fimg%2F468x60banner.gif&t=665&c=20xWQDMX5M8wAQ)
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AvL42
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November 27, 2012, 01:39:21 AM |
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Another tidbid: I played a couple roulette-bets again, playing a chip on you-know-which-bet, casually winning (actually, even without 0 showing up), casually losing... Coming back to the main window, I get to read under: Latest Winners User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette Really??? So I won 2.00 Bitcoin each time?? Where's the missing 4×1.998 BTC then? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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AvL42
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November 27, 2012, 02:02:44 AM |
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Here's some more items for the nerd-roulette wishlist: - Show history of at least 36 last rolls during the session. No need to make up any "previous rolls", though. - "Classic"'s color scheme is good, imho. - betting field horizontally aligned - not diagonal. If it must be diagonal, then \-like, not /-like. having the carousel nearer to bottom (like in Medieval) feels like lying head-down. - an extra "rebet&roll" button or do auto-"rebet" if "play" is clicked after a completed round without a new bet. - ball roll should still take two or three seconds. If too short, it would feel strange, even to a nerd. - When broke, or when finishing, show a statistics page for the session. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) just some brainstorming.
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November 27, 2012, 03:20:57 AM |
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Another tidbid: I played a couple roulette-bets again, playing a chip on you-know-which-bet, casually winning (actually, even without 0 showing up), casually losing... Coming back to the main window, I get to read under: Latest Winners User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette Really??? So I won 2.00 Bitcoin each time?? Where's the missing 4×1.998 BTC then? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) What is the sub-value for less than one Bitcoin that is search engine friendly? ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.23 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.luckybitcoincasino.com%2F%2Fimg%2F468x60banner.gif&t=665&c=20xWQDMX5M8wAQ)
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November 27, 2012, 03:48:29 AM |
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User: avl42 won 2.00 Bitcoin playing Roulette
What is the sub-value for less than one Bitcoin that is search engine friendly? If you want to use the word 'bitcoin' because it's search engine friendly, do so - just multiply the amount won by the price-per-chip in bitcoins. So when he wins 23 chips, write: User: avl42 won 0.002 Bitcoin playing Roulette Then it's true as well as searchable! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Edit: otherwise people use "bitcent" for 0.01 BTC or "1 mBTC" for 0.001 BTC. Neither one is good for SEO purposes though I'm guessing.
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November 27, 2012, 04:29:38 AM |
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Sounds good. Since you answered first you just earned more Bitcoin to spend as you please.
Thanks. That's the 6th 0.1 BTC you've sent me. I've lost the first 5 back to you, and will probably do the same now with this one.
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