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November 27, 2012, 11:31:53 PM |
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I was playing earlier. I stopped after 116 roulette spins, 2 chips each, all on the 3-36 line.
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Just logged back in and have only 82 chips.
Can you see what happened to the other 2 chips?
I'm pretty sure I quit after my 80th loss, with a balance of 84.
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November 27, 2012, 11:40:34 PM |
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I was playing earlier. I stopped after 116 roulette spins, 2 chips each, all on the 3-36 line.
80 losses, 36 wins, ended up with 84 chips. (100 - 80*2 + 36*4 = 84)
Just logged back in and have only 82 chips.
Can you see what happened to the other 2 chips?
I'm pretty sure I quit after my 80th loss, with a balance of 84.
It's not a big deal - they're free chips anyway, and worth about 1 cent each, but it's concerning that my balance would change like that.
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November 28, 2012, 12:03:58 AM |
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Can you see what happened to the other 2 chips?
It's not a big deal - they're free chips anyway, and worth about 1 cent each, but it's concerning that my balance would change like that.
It is not possible for a balance to "just change like that". So what happened? Do you have logs? Can you see the numbers I got on the roulette wheel? My 1st spin in the last 12 hours was 5, and my 116th (and I think final) was 15. Do you have both of those in your logs? Is there anything before or after those spins?
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November 28, 2012, 12:25:59 AM |
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Can you see what happened to the other 2 chips?
It's not a big deal - they're free chips anyway, and worth about 1 cent each, but it's concerning that my balance would change like that.
It is not possible for a balance to "just change like that". So what happened? Do you have logs? Can you see the numbers I got on the roulette wheel? My 1st spin in the last 12 hours was 5, and my 116th (and I think final) was 15. Do you have both of those in your logs? Is there anything before or after those spins? Honestly, I think its a little ridiculous you want me to look at thousands of transaction logs just because you "think" you had 84 chips and your account balance shows 82 chips. I trust my software, and I have plenty of reason to trust it since 2004. ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.21 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com
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November 28, 2012, 12:29:09 AM |
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Honestly, I think its a little ridiculous you want me to look at thousands of transaction logs just because you "think" you had 84 chips and your account balance shows 82 chips. I trust my software, and I have plenty of reason to trust it since 2004.
I didn't realise it would involve looking at thousands of logs. I was kind of interested to know how good your logging is, and whether you would be able and/or willing to respond to such a request. Has your software had the "payout on 0" bug since 2004 do you think? I wouldn't be so quick to trust software that is known to be faulty.
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November 28, 2012, 12:37:20 AM |
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Honestly, I think its a little ridiculous you want me to look at thousands of transaction logs just because you "think" you had 84 chips and your account balance shows 82 chips. I trust my software, and I have plenty of reason to trust it since 2004.
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November 28, 2012, 12:50:40 AM |
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A simple 0 bug that actually benefits the player you describe as "faulty". Oh well, you cant please everyone I guess. Moving along.
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November 28, 2012, 01:03:45 AM |
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A simple 0 bug that actually benefits the player you describe as "faulty". Oh well, you cant please everyone I guess. Moving along.
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November 28, 2012, 01:51:29 AM |
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Honestly, I think its a little ridiculous you want me to look at thousands of transaction logs just because you "think" you had 84 chips and your account balance shows 82 chips. I trust my software, and I have plenty of reason to trust it since 2004.
I didn't realise it would involve looking at thousands of logs. I was kind of interested to know how good your logging is, and whether you would be able and/or willing to respond to such a request. Has your software had the "payout on 0" bug since 2004 do you think? I wouldn't be so quick to trust software that is known to be faulty. Just so you know. I'm not being a jerk to you. Just so you understand, if I start checking logs for one person, I have to check logs for every single person after that. And I would then have people making all kind of claims checking logs constantly. I hope you understand and don't take it personal. ----------------- New members, signup today and receive $1.21 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com
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November 28, 2012, 03:37:51 AM |
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Just so you know. I'm not being a jerk to you. Just so you understand, if I start checking logs for one person, I have to check logs for every single person after that. And I would then have people making all kind of claims checking logs constantly. I hope you understand and don't take it personal.
That's fair enough, but I'm sure I didn't make an extra bet. I suspect an error in the casino software somewhere. But you say that's not possible, and you're not prepared to look into it, so I guess that's the end of it. Until one day when it's a significant amount of money that goes missing. Or not. Maybe it is my mistake.
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November 28, 2012, 04:44:04 AM Last edit: November 29, 2012, 05:56:09 PM by flooraccount |
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Just so you know. I'm not being a jerk to you. Just so you understand, if I start checking logs for one person, I have to check logs for every single person after that. And I would then have people making all kind of claims checking logs constantly. I hope you understand and don't take it personal.
That's fair enough, but I'm sure I didn't make an extra bet. I suspect an error in the casino software somewhere. But you say that's not possible, and you're not prepared to look into it, so I guess that's the end of it. Until one day when it's a significant amount of money that goes missing. Or not. Maybe it is my mistake. There is no error in our software. In 8 years I have had not had a single complaint that problem has ever existed or been reported. But I promise, our casino can produce a log of any user account activity. It is not possible to subtract a users account without human intervention (i.e. Administrative Controls). Chip balance are based on Deposits, Withdrawals, + and - game plays. Chip balance are not "cookies" stored in browsers and cannot be removed by closing of the browser or "clearing" of the browser cookie. Chip balances cannot be tampered with period. ------------------ New members, signup today and receive $1.21 MtGox FREE (Now 100 Casino Chips). No purchase necessary! Rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122073.msg1320160#msg1320160Thank you. Lucky Bitcoin Casino https://www.luckybitcoincasino.com
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There is no error in our software. In 8 years I have had not had a single complaint that problem has ever existed or been reported.
You have now. But I promise, our casino can produce a log of any user account activity. It is not possible to subtract a users account without human intervention (i.e. Administrative Controls). Chip balance are based on Deposits, Withdrawals, + and - game plays. Chip balance are not "cookies" stored in browsers and cannot be removed by closing of the browser or "clearing" of the browser cookie. Chip balances cannot be tampered with period.
That's fine. I would hope balances are stored server side, or you're asking for trouble. I just can't account for those 2 chips that went missing, but it really doesn't matter. The other 98 have gone missing now too, due to yet another run of bad luck. I can't believe how badly I do at your casino. I think that's 6 times now I've cashed in with the 0.1 BTC you sent me, and 6 times I've gone bust relatively quickly. Even when I play the bet which is slightly in the player's favour, the roulette wheel just seems to be against me.
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