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To be honest, I'm quite surprise to see Lakers did let go of Jordan Clarkson, I initially thought that they are building a "franchise" around him.
I'm thinking that he's this generation's Kobe Bryant but well things are changing from time to time and NBA is a big business so whether we think that they will franchise through JC the decision will still depending to the management itself. But I hope this will make him play better on his new home. For me it's still a good thing that happen to JC he will now playing with the king just like how he did when kobe still there he became famous backing up kobe and build he's own name if he can also blend this good chemistry with the king then future will be bright for him, cavs let go their 3 big name players, thomas,wade and rose and replace it with a younger players who also building their names respectively, for sure they are still aiming for the title as long as the king will stay healthy. I really don't care if he will play along with Lebron. He can even get a very tiny exposure and game time to his new home but still we are not the one to decide for himself and to the management. Let's all be happy that we are all supporters of Jordan Clarkson and this will give him a new experience and let's all hope that this will give a very positive one.
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February 10, 2018, 10:13:30 PM |
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Some highlights of Lebron James Rookie of the Year = 2004 NBA Season MVP = 3 TIMES NBA Finals MVP = 3 TIMES 7th Player to reached 30,000 Points in the whole NBA history Not an injury proned player No issues off the court AND STILL HAVE 1,000,000 and counting haters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Damn who else @33 years of age who can still play like a monter. He is on post prime but still deadly. Have a wonderful built and always healthy. haters really gonna hate. Obviously speaking, that was really a great achievement in his career. Although at some point, we can really avoid that haters will come around. This is what I liked about LeBron James, since he entered the NBA league (or I think even prior to that), there are already lots of haters but still he managed to achieved those milestones in his career. He focus on every game and disregard all negative issues. At age 33, his physical built is still like a tank and he able to maintained it throughout the years with just a minor injury at all (or closed to no injury). Just appreciate greatness and that's it. I like what he has achieved as a player but not really in his life. He does deserve more and I do blame it on the decisions he have made in his life and the choices of which teams he has chose to play for and do his greatness with along his career. I never liked the Cavaliers. Molding a team around one player does not always work. It worked for Micheal Jordan, but does not work for Lebron James. I didn't like him on the Miami Heat either when he was with them during 2010-2014 season. He did get them to win back to back championships but once he left they fell apart. That is not how a team should organize themselves because what happens when the star lone player goes to free agency? They will be not the same team to expect to defend that title they just won the season before. Miami sucks this year as the worst team.
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February 11, 2018, 03:12:01 AM |
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Some highlights of Lebron James Rookie of the Year = 2004 NBA Season MVP = 3 TIMES NBA Finals MVP = 3 TIMES 7th Player to reached 30,000 Points in the whole NBA history Not an injury proned player No issues off the court AND STILL HAVE 1,000,000 and counting haters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Damn who else @33 years of age who can still play like a monter. He is on post prime but still deadly. Have a wonderful built and always healthy. haters really gonna hate. Obviously speaking, that was really a great achievement in his career. Although at some point, we can really avoid that haters will come around. This is what I liked about LeBron James, since he entered the NBA league (or I think even prior to that), there are already lots of haters but still he managed to achieved those milestones in his career. He focus on every game and disregard all negative issues. At age 33, his physical built is still like a tank and he able to maintained it throughout the years with just a minor injury at all (or closed to no injury). Just appreciate greatness and that's it. Couldnt agree, more, whats more impressive to me is the fact that he is an excellent role model for kids and hasnt had any problems outside the basketball court. Best player in my opinion, I know you cant compare between MJ and LJ since they had different competitions and Basketball was a lot more physical before but we just have to calm ourselves and enjoy watching him play. Thanks to all the trades that the Cavs made now they have a really good defensive team, lets see if Lebron can take this team to win the Conference.
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February 11, 2018, 04:05:33 AM |
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Some highlights of Lebron James Rookie of the Year = 2004 NBA Season MVP = 3 TIMES NBA Finals MVP = 3 TIMES 7th Player to reached 30,000 Points in the whole NBA history Not an injury proned player No issues off the court AND STILL HAVE 1,000,000 and counting haters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Damn who else @33 years of age who can still play like a monter. He is on post prime but still deadly. Have a wonderful built and always healthy. haters really gonna hate. Obviously speaking, that was really a great achievement in his career. Although at some point, we can really avoid that haters will come around. This is what I liked about LeBron James, since he entered the NBA league (or I think even prior to that), there are already lots of haters but still he managed to achieved those milestones in his career. He focus on every game and disregard all negative issues. At age 33, his physical built is still like a tank and he able to maintained it throughout the years with just a minor injury at all (or closed to no injury). Just appreciate greatness and that's it. Couldnt agree, more, whats more impressive to me is the fact that he is an excellent role model for kids and hasnt had any problems outside the basketball court. Best player in my opinion, I know you cant compare between MJ and LJ since they had different competitions and Basketball was a lot more physical before but we just have to calm ourselves and enjoy watching him play. Thanks to all the trades that the Cavs made now they have a really good defensive team, lets see if Lebron can take this team to win the Conference. Haters made him to be a tough player right now, with those criticism he was built to continue to impress sports lovers, LJ makes the new face of basketball he played all position where he really can create impact, I agree that we cant compare him win MJ since everything now is about money and fame unlike before where basketball is all about pride, looking forward to see more supremacy and dedication from LJ to more competitive games to watch out inside NBA.
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February 11, 2018, 08:47:03 AM |
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Some highlights of Lebron James Rookie of the Year = 2004 NBA Season MVP = 3 TIMES NBA Finals MVP = 3 TIMES 7th Player to reached 30,000 Points in the whole NBA history Not an injury proned player No issues off the court AND STILL HAVE 1,000,000 and counting haters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Damn who else @33 years of age who can still play like a monter. He is on post prime but still deadly. Have a wonderful built and always healthy. haters really gonna hate. Obviously speaking, that was really a great achievement in his career. Although at some point, we can really avoid that haters will come around. This is what I liked about LeBron James, since he entered the NBA league (or I think even prior to that), there are already lots of haters but still he managed to achieved those milestones in his career. He focus on every game and disregard all negative issues. At age 33, his physical built is still like a tank and he able to maintained it throughout the years with just a minor injury at all (or closed to no injury). Just appreciate greatness and that's it. Couldnt agree, more, whats more impressive to me is the fact that he is an excellent role model for kids and hasnt had any problems outside the basketball court. Best player in my opinion, I know you cant compare between MJ and LJ since they had different competitions and Basketball was a lot more physical before but we just have to calm ourselves and enjoy watching him play. Thanks to all the trades that the Cavs made now they have a really good defensive team, lets see if Lebron can take this team to win the Conference. Haters made him to be a tough player right now, with those criticism he was built to continue to impress sports lovers, LJ makes the new face of basketball he played all position where he really can create impact, I agree that we cant compare him win MJ since everything now is about money and fame unlike before where basketball is all about pride, looking forward to see more supremacy and dedication from LJ to more competitive games to watch out inside NBA. Lebron has already proven his doubters that he is a great player and I think he will continue to be in search for more success. The cavaliers has change their roaster by sending other players and welcoming the young bloods, IMO this will work because this young bloods are more hungry for a win especially now that they are in a championship caliber team.
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February 11, 2018, 08:57:53 AM |
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Some highlights of Lebron James Rookie of the Year = 2004 NBA Season MVP = 3 TIMES NBA Finals MVP = 3 TIMES 7th Player to reached 30,000 Points in the whole NBA history Not an injury proned player No issues off the court AND STILL HAVE 1,000,000 and counting haters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Damn who else @33 years of age who can still play like a monter. He is on post prime but still deadly. Have a wonderful built and always healthy. haters really gonna hate. Obviously speaking, that was really a great achievement in his career. Although at some point, we can really avoid that haters will come around. This is what I liked about LeBron James, since he entered the NBA league (or I think even prior to that), there are already lots of haters but still he managed to achieved those milestones in his career. He focus on every game and disregard all negative issues. At age 33, his physical built is still like a tank and he able to maintained it throughout the years with just a minor injury at all (or closed to no injury). Just appreciate greatness and that's it. Couldnt agree, more, whats more impressive to me is the fact that he is an excellent role model for kids and hasnt had any problems outside the basketball court. Best player in my opinion, I know you cant compare between MJ and LJ since they had different competitions and Basketball was a lot more physical before but we just have to calm ourselves and enjoy watching him play. Thanks to all the trades that the Cavs made now they have a really good defensive team, lets see if Lebron can take this team to win the Conference. Haters made him to be a tough player right now, with those criticism he was built to continue to impress sports lovers, LJ makes the new face of basketball he played all position where he really can create impact, I agree that we cant compare him win MJ since everything now is about money and fame unlike before where basketball is all about pride, looking forward to see more supremacy and dedication from LJ to more competitive games to watch out inside NBA. Lebron has already proven his doubters that he is a great player and I think he will continue to be in search for more success. The cavaliers has change their roaster by sending other players and welcoming the young bloods, IMO this will work because this young bloods are more hungry for a win especially now that they are in a championship caliber team. Haters would really be always there specially for famous people and it cant really be removed.If theres fans then there would be always a hater but well as being said he do already prove himself about on his capability and we have seen it on our very own eyes regarding on his record.Im not quiet sure into those new players or young blood on the team but who knows if they would able to patch up and might surprise us.
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February 11, 2018, 06:33:57 PM |
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LBJ James and Thomas are not doing very well on the court at the same time!
The manager's tactics are relatively one-sided, and he can make Thomas a substitute!
A few days before the deal, if the Cleveland cavaliers' management doesn't change.
Cleveland will be a tough season!
This is the very reason why they traded Isiah. I think he actually asked to be traded because he didn't fit in the chemistry of the team or Lebron, being lebron, asked them to get rid of him due to being injuried and then coming off of that did not produce or the cause. So essentially he was useless to them in trying to win. They went something like 8 losses in a row at home with him the in the line as it is. So he gets the boot off first. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 11, 2018, 07:23:44 PM |
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LBJ James and Thomas are not doing very well on the court at the same time!
The manager's tactics are relatively one-sided, and he can make Thomas a substitute!
A few days before the deal, if the Cleveland cavaliers' management doesn't change.
Cleveland will be a tough season!
This is the very reason why they traded Isiah. I think he actually asked to be traded because he didn't fit in the chemistry of the team or Lebron, being lebron, asked them to get rid of him due to being injuried and then coming off of that did not produce or the cause. So essentially he was useless to them in trying to win. They went something like 8 losses in a row at home with him the in the line as it is. So he gets the boot off first. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The Cavaliers have the chance to test their new players as they face the Boston Celtics tonight and though i am a Cavaliers fan, I don't think that there is even the slightest hope of victory for Lebron James and his team.
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February 11, 2018, 07:28:55 PM |
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LBJ James and Thomas are not doing very well on the court at the same time!
The manager's tactics are relatively one-sided, and he can make Thomas a substitute!
A few days before the deal, if the Cleveland cavaliers' management doesn't change.
Cleveland will be a tough season!
This is the very reason why they traded Isiah. I think he actually asked to be traded because he didn't fit in the chemistry of the team or Lebron, being lebron, asked them to get rid of him due to being injuried and then coming off of that did not produce or the cause. So essentially he was useless to them in trying to win. They went something like 8 losses in a row at home with him the in the line as it is. So he gets the boot off first. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The Cavaliers have the chance to test their new players as they face the Boston Celtics tonight and though i am a Cavaliers fan, I don't think that there is even the slightest hope of victory for Lebron James and his team. Wouldn't be great if they upset the Celtics with their newcomers? hahahaha. That will be epic. But seriously though, I also don't think that they will have a slight chance because it will take their new players to adjust with the new system / rotation. At least 3-5 games will be a good gauge as to how they will get to play with Lebron and the rest of team. Let see how it goes for Cavalier, I think they will make the playoffs though but I don't expect them to win the conference championship.
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February 11, 2018, 10:04:03 PM |
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LBJ James and Thomas are not doing very well on the court at the same time!
The manager's tactics are relatively one-sided, and he can make Thomas a substitute!
A few days before the deal, if the Cleveland cavaliers' management doesn't change.
Cleveland will be a tough season!
This is the very reason why they traded Isiah. I think he actually asked to be traded because he didn't fit in the chemistry of the team or Lebron, being lebron, asked them to get rid of him due to being injuried and then coming off of that did not produce or the cause. So essentially he was useless to them in trying to win. They went something like 8 losses in a row at home with him the in the line as it is. So he gets the boot off first. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The Cavaliers have the chance to test their new players as they face the Boston Celtics tonight and though i am a Cavaliers fan, I don't think that there is even the slightest hope of victory for Lebron James and his team. Wouldn't be great if they upset the Celtics with their newcomers? hahahaha. That will be epic. But seriously though, I also don't think that they will have a slight chance because it will take their new players to adjust with the new system / rotation. At least 3-5 games will be a good gauge as to how they will get to play with Lebron and the rest of team. Let see how it goes for Cavalier, I think they will make the playoffs though but I don't expect them to win the conference championship. Suprising everyone, the Cavs are up 14 in the third quarter right now, everyone is playing really well. This is a way different team, everyone is playing defense now. Lebron is just too good to guard right now, Thompson is actually playing normal like he used to a couple of years ago. JR finally getting his shots up. If they can get a PG this could be a scary Cavs team.
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February 11, 2018, 10:44:43 PM |
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LBJ James and Thomas are not doing very well on the court at the same time!
The manager's tactics are relatively one-sided, and he can make Thomas a substitute!
A few days before the deal, if the Cleveland cavaliers' management doesn't change.
Cleveland will be a tough season!
This is the very reason why they traded Isiah. I think he actually asked to be traded because he didn't fit in the chemistry of the team or Lebron, being lebron, asked them to get rid of him due to being injuried and then coming off of that did not produce or the cause. So essentially he was useless to them in trying to win. They went something like 8 losses in a row at home with him the in the line as it is. So he gets the boot off first. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The Cavaliers have the chance to test their new players as they face the Boston Celtics tonight and though i am a Cavaliers fan, I don't think that there is even the slightest hope of victory for Lebron James and his team. Wouldn't be great if they upset the Celtics with their newcomers? hahahaha. That will be epic. But seriously though, I also don't think that they will have a slight chance because it will take their new players to adjust with the new system / rotation. At least 3-5 games will be a good gauge as to how they will get to play with Lebron and the rest of team. Let see how it goes for Cavalier, I think they will make the playoffs though but I don't expect them to win the conference championship. They are blowing them out in Boston. It is totally disgraceful to see from a crap Cavaliers team as they stand. Both of of the teams top players are on the bench for all of the fourth quarter as the Cavs have run away with this game. Lost a 26mbtc 6-leg parlay just because of this game, totally disgusting for Celtics to blow this home game. And by a score of 30+ points without Lebron in the floor for most of the second half at that! ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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February 11, 2018, 10:54:38 PM |
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LBJ James and Thomas are not doing very well on the court at the same time!
The manager's tactics are relatively one-sided, and he can make Thomas a substitute!
A few days before the deal, if the Cleveland cavaliers' management doesn't change.
Cleveland will be a tough season!
This is the very reason why they traded Isiah. I think he actually asked to be traded because he didn't fit in the chemistry of the team or Lebron, being lebron, asked them to get rid of him due to being injuried and then coming off of that did not produce or the cause. So essentially he was useless to them in trying to win. They went something like 8 losses in a row at home with him the in the line as it is. So he gets the boot off first. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The Cavaliers have the chance to test their new players as they face the Boston Celtics tonight and though i am a Cavaliers fan, I don't think that there is even the slightest hope of victory for Lebron James and his team. Wouldn't be great if they upset the Celtics with their newcomers? hahahaha. That will be epic. But seriously though, I also don't think that they will have a slight chance because it will take their new players to adjust with the new system / rotation. At least 3-5 games will be a good gauge as to how they will get to play with Lebron and the rest of team. Let see how it goes for Cavalier, I think they will make the playoffs though but I don't expect them to win the conference championship. They are blowing them out in Boston. It is totally disgraceful to see from a crap Cavaliers team as they stand. Both of of the teams top players are on the bench for all of the fourth quarter as the Cavs have run away with this game. Lost a 26mbtc 6-leg parlay just because of this game, totally disgusting for Celtics to blow this home game. And by a score of 30+ points without Lebron in the floor for most of the second half at that! ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) This is indeed very shocking and I completely didn’t expect this outcome and the Cavaliers have indeed shocked a lot of people including a lot of their fans.
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February 12, 2018, 02:29:53 AM |
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Cleveland cavaliers beat the Boston celtics on the road.
It looks like the knight deal has brought new life to the team!
Lebron James is relatively relaxed! The game also announced the return of Cleveland cavaliers!
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February 12, 2018, 05:16:59 AM |
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Cleveland cavaliers beat the Boston celtics on the road.
It looks like the knight deal has brought new life to the team!
Lebron James is relatively relaxed! The game also announced the return of Cleveland cavaliers!
Jordan clarkson showcasing his talent together with George hill the preview showed that they are more hungrier than Thomas, wade and rose, this new form of selection coming from the management gives lebron a much clearer position and it seems that he really enjoyed the new company, how they continue playing like this and to regain the conference title after defeating their number one contender.
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February 12, 2018, 05:57:20 AM |
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Cleveland cavaliers beat the Boston celtics on the road.
It looks like the knight deal has brought new life to the team!
Lebron James is relatively relaxed! The game also announced the return of Cleveland cavaliers!
Jordan clarkson showcasing his talent together with George hill the preview showed that they are more hungrier than Thomas, wade and rose, this new form of selection coming from the management gives lebron a much clearer position and it seems that he really enjoyed the new company, how they continue playing like this and to regain the conference title after defeating their number one contender. I am not surprise by the way the cavaliers are showing, the young players are really hungry and they can be more aggressive now since they are playing with Lebron James, beating the celtics easily makes a big statement and other teams who are criticizing the cavaliers now are for sure in danger they might be routed as well when they play the cavaliers.
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I am not surprise by the way the cavaliers are showing, the young players are really hungry and they can be more aggressive now since they are playing with Lebron James, beating the celtics easily makes a big statement and other teams who are criticizing the cavaliers now are for sure in danger they might be routed as well when they play the cavaliers.
Jordan clarkson and George hill seamlessly connect Cleveland cavaliers. By the time they were fully integrated into the Cleveland cavaliers, the Cleveland cavaliers were further strengthened! James's confidence that he will continue to hit the championship will not change!
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February 12, 2018, 01:38:44 PM |
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The Lakers were indeed picking up their performance and then suddenly they traded most of their players to the Cavaliers in a move that shows that they really didn't have any ambitions in the first place.
Nance Jr and Clarkson are good backup off the bench so I will agree to you. Since rookie days, Jordan Clarkson has tremendously shows that his performance really blooms every game. He is the best 6th man for me during his rookie days and can be a candidate for this season. The Lakers bench is showing good backup to their starters so I don't know why they destroy their young lineups. I agree, Jordan Clarkson has been playing tremendously good in the past seasons that I was caught off-guard why the hell the LA management traded both of them? He could really turn LA around with Lonzo as their main point guard. Sadly though they change their tune and traded the him. Well the trade has dosed their ambition for this season already. Maybe they are again rebuilding, but it will take years again before we can see LA at the top. With the recent trade i think Jordan Clarkson will benefit from this. He is now on a championship caliber team and seeing him play alongside the king, i thought they kinda jell well. This is an opportunity for JC to step up his game come play-off time because LBJ will gonna need him most by that time.
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February 12, 2018, 01:51:15 PM |
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The Lakers were indeed picking up their performance and then suddenly they traded most of their players to the Cavaliers in a move that shows that they really didn't have any ambitions in the first place.
Nance Jr and Clarkson are good backup off the bench so I will agree to you. Since rookie days, Jordan Clarkson has tremendously shows that his performance really blooms every game. He is the best 6th man for me during his rookie days and can be a candidate for this season. The Lakers bench is showing good backup to their starters so I don't know why they destroy their young lineups. I agree, Jordan Clarkson has been playing tremendously good in the past seasons that I was caught off-guard why the hell the LA management traded both of them? He could really turn LA around with Lonzo as their main point guard. Sadly though they change their tune and traded the him. Well the trade has dosed their ambition for this season already. Maybe they are again rebuilding, but it will take years again before we can see LA at the top. With the recent trade i think Jordan Clarkson will benefit from this. He is now on a championship caliber team and seeing him play alongside the king, i thought they kinda jell well. This is an opportunity for JC to step up his game come play-off time because LBJ will gonna need him most by that time. From what I know Jordan Clarkson wasn't even part of the Los Angeles Laker's future plan. He was also part of the rumors where Di'Angelo Russell wash shipped to the Brooklyn Nets. What they did was a win for them as they have a struggling Star Point Guard for an above average shooting guard is a good trade for them plus they have a 1st round pick in the process.
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I am not surprise by the way the cavaliers are showing, the young players are really hungry and they can be more aggressive now since they are playing with Lebron James, beating the celtics easily makes a big statement and other teams who are criticizing the cavaliers now are for sure in danger they might be routed as well when they play the cavaliers.
Jordan clarkson and George hill seamlessly connect Cleveland cavaliers. By the time they were fully integrated into the Cleveland cavaliers, the Cleveland cavaliers were further strengthened! James's confidence that he will continue to hit the championship will not change! This is their first game and without a doubt they have really improved the Cavaliers but before we make further assumptions, we should see how their upcoming games turn out before making any bold predictions, In my opinion, they are yet to fully integrate with the team.
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February 12, 2018, 10:18:50 PM |
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I am not surprise by the way the cavaliers are showing, the young players are really hungry and they can be more aggressive now since they are playing with Lebron James, beating the celtics easily makes a big statement and other teams who are criticizing the cavaliers now are for sure in danger they might be routed as well when they play the cavaliers.
Jordan clarkson and George hill seamlessly connect Cleveland cavaliers. By the time they were fully integrated into the Cleveland cavaliers, the Cleveland cavaliers were further strengthened! James's confidence that he will continue to hit the championship will not change! This is their first game and without a doubt they have really improved the Cavaliers but before we make further assumptions, we should see how their upcoming games turn out before making any bold predictions, In my opinion, they are yet to fully integrate with the team. It's going to be easy for the Cavs in the next couple weeks they are gonna need rotation for the squad so they can get the new players integrated in before they start in the playoffs both Hill and Nance should can be solid additions to play in defense and only the lack of understanding and ball movement will be a problem for the Cavs for some games after that they will get much more familiar with each other and the system to follow the good thing is there's no weakness in these new players only a better center they are gonna but it's not that important.
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