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April 09, 2019, 04:13:26 PM
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I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time.  Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships.  Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen.  James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
One thing a lot of fans and analysts tend to forget about seeing who is the greatest of all time is the level of competition during their era. If you look at it you will see that Jordan's era cannot be considered as competitive compared to what we have now, before you will only see a few star players and a few role players doing a good job in the league. Now you will see a lot of them doing good in the league. It has been said before and has become highly debated that dominant players in other eras might not be dominant at all if they played in this current generation.
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April 09, 2019, 04:45:49 PM
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I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time.  Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships.  Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen.  James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
How about Lebron playing with Kyrie, Dwade and Bosh though? Those are great players in my opinion as compare to Jordan's who got Scottie and lots of role players?

Yeah i don't even know why there's even that kind of comparison. Lebron literally had to persuade all stars to join him to get his rings. Another thing about these two is that not once did you see mj give up on his team mates. Much respect to lebron but what he showed towards the end of this season with the young lakers, not playing defense, the usual finger pointing, obviously distancing himself, all these puts him way behind michael jordan.


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April 09, 2019, 05:48:14 PM
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No doubt about that. Jordan was a legend and although Lebron is quite good, he is a few miles behind Jordan. Too bad that lifetime earnings for Jordan may not match with those of LBJ.
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April 09, 2019, 05:51:46 PM
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I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time.  Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships.  Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen.  James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
Everyone has a different opinion about think and it's pretty hard to compare both of them since they have never played together in the same league. Jordan played in a different period, with different players, team and rules and that's why it's extremely hard to say which one is the best.
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April 09, 2019, 05:53:06 PM
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So lets see the league is almost over and west playoff tree is still not decided but if it ends like today than the follow will happen.

Warriors will face clippers, which warriors will win, than Denver will face spurs which I think is an incredibly challenging game for both sides, Denver is the better team as we can see from second place but at the same time they have no playoff experience so given 7 game series anything could happen.

Rockets will face thunder which I believe rockets will breeze through and blazers will play jazz which I think gonna be the biggest no idea series out there, nobody knows which one is better, if Nurkic was there I would assume blazers but without Nurkic its definitely up for grabs. So warriors vs blazers/jazz winner and rockets vs spurs/nuggets winner, if you look at it like that I think its safe to assume its gonna be another rockets vs warriors this year.
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I rarely participated or involved in a GOAT discussion since honestly, it's not making sense to me.

But why should we have a GOAT debate in the first place? How important it is?

Who's the GOAT is based on own people's view. Meaning not in general since every people have different standards.

These players are played on different era, different competition, different styles, different roles, different everything etc. Jordan itself stated that no such thing as GOAT being him as there are other top players he doesn't have a chance to met on the court.

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April 09, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
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I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time.  Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships.  Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen.  James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
Everyone has a different opinion about think and it's pretty hard to compare both of them since they have never played together in the same league. Jordan played in a different period, with different players, team and rules and that's why it's extremely hard to say which one is the best.

Yeah I agree. Some of us haven't seen Jordan played or even Magic. But MJ's name is always in the discussion because of how he brought championship to Chicago in the 90's with such a team. James era though was different, no more Bad Boys from Detroit and no hard and physical contact. So it's really hard to compare them, imho.

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April 09, 2019, 07:41:25 PM
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I rarely participated or involved in a GOAT discussion since honestly, it's not making sense to me.

But why should we have a GOAT debate in the first place? How important it is?

Who's the GOAT is based on own people's view. Meaning not in general since every people have different standards.

These players are played on different era, different competition, different styles, different roles, different everything etc. Jordan itself stated that no such thing as GOAT being him as there are other top players he doesn't have a chance to met on the court.
You cant really stop people on discussing with that GOAT thing.I agree into your points that there's no point on arguing regarding about such matter yet we do have
our own favorites. Comparing is inevitable but as said these players do play in different era and for sure we would see another GOAT thing on next 5 years.  Cool

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April 10, 2019, 04:17:52 AM
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I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time.  Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships.  Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen.  James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
Everyone has a different opinion about think and it's pretty hard to compare both of them since they have never played together in the same league. Jordan played in a different period, with different players, team and rules and that's why it's extremely hard to say which one is the best.

Yeah I agree. Some of us haven't seen Jordan played or even Magic. But MJ's name is always in the discussion because of how he brought championship to Chicago in the 90's with such a team. James era though was different, no more Bad Boys from Detroit and no hard and physical contact. So it's really hard to compare them, imho.
The competitions is between pride and paychecks, they've played with different era and they haven't got the chance playing against each others, young generations have it's own points of view while old age fans will generalized what have they've seen from the current scenarios.

It's fans interpretations of this arguments about being a GOAT so we are all open for our observations and assessments.
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April 10, 2019, 04:54:13 AM
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OKC vs Thunder, the duel of MVP candidates, this game WB made another triple double but it was PG who give them a win in the last seconds.
His cold blooded 3 points give them a go head score, it was a come from behind win by the OKC that has been trailing all throughout the game.
The 4th quarter was only the the quarter OKC won.
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April 10, 2019, 05:18:18 AM
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OKC vs Thunder, the duel of MVP candidates, this game WB made another triple double but it was PG who give them a win in the last seconds.
His cold blooded 3 points give them a go head score, it was a come from behind win by the OKC that has been trailing all throughout the game.
The 4th quarter was only the the quarter OKC won.

Do you mean OKC vs Houston?

Yes, the score is 112-111 for OKC. It's the usual Westbrook with another triple double performance and hitting 3's, but it was George three that put the dagger on the hearts of Houston fans. They were trailing 14 points in the fourth but it looks like Houston choke again. James Harden scored 29 and Chris Paul with 24.

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April 10, 2019, 05:32:16 AM
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OKC vs Thunder, the duel of MVP candidates, this game WB made another triple double but it was PG who give them a win in the last seconds.
His cold blooded 3 points give them a go head score, it was a come from behind win by the OKC that has been trailing all throughout the game.
The 4th quarter was only the the quarter OKC won.

Houston Rockets should have won this game, but they lost it due to their carelessness. In the end, the better team cohesion worked out for Oklahoma City Thunder. At the end of the 3rd quarter, the Rockets were ahead on points (93-80). But Thunder smashed them during the fourth quarter (32-18), with Paul George and Russell Westbrook destroying the Rockets.
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April 10, 2019, 05:38:54 AM
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OKC vs Thunder, the duel of MVP candidates, this game WB made another triple double but it was PG who give them a win in the last seconds.
His cold blooded 3 points give them a go head score, it was a come from behind win by the OKC that has been trailing all throughout the game.
The 4th quarter was only the the quarter OKC won.

Do you mean OKC vs Houston?

Yes, the score is 112-111 for OKC. It's the usual Westbrook with another triple double performance and hitting 3's, but it was George three that put the dagger on the hearts of Houston fans. They were trailing 14 points in the fourth but it looks like Houston choke again. James Harden scored 29 and Chris Paul with 24.

Yeah sorry, I got confused, that's what I meant, I made myself obvious that I'm a thunder fan. LOL
Indeed it was the clutch man PG that make this come back a success.
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April 10, 2019, 06:08:25 AM
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But why should we have a GOAT debate in the first place? How important it is?
It's because NBA media does not have any topic lol. I agree on your opinion that all of us have different perspective on every player. That's why we're bias on somebody. Don't tell me you don't have any favorite player. And maybe, that player could be your vote on GOAT.
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April 10, 2019, 07:09:09 AM
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But why should we have a GOAT debate in the first place? How important it is?
It's because NBA media does not have any topic lol. I agree on your opinion that all of us have different perspective on every player. That's why we're bias on somebody. Don't tell me you don't have any favorite player. And maybe, that player could be your vote on GOAT.
It will create a never ending conversation or debate if we are talking about our GOAT player because there is no complete reference
to determine which is better of the players we are debating. Just continue to be bias and love our favorite player as that what makes us love the NBA.

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April 10, 2019, 07:14:17 AM
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OKC vs Thunder, the duel of MVP candidates, this game WB made another triple double but it was PG who give them a win in the last seconds.
His cold blooded 3 points give them a go head score, it was a come from behind win by the OKC that has been trailing all throughout the game.
The 4th quarter was only the the quarter OKC won.

Do you mean OKC vs Houston?

Yes, the score is 112-111 for OKC. It's the usual Westbrook with another triple double performance and hitting 3's, but it was George three that put the dagger on the hearts of Houston fans. They were trailing 14 points in the fourth but it looks like Houston choke again. James Harden scored 29 and Chris Paul with 24.

Yeah sorry, I got confused, that's what I meant, I made myself obvious that I'm a thunder fan. LOL
Indeed it was the clutch man PG that make this come back a success.

Lol, no problem mate, maybe you just got excited seeing Paul George making that big 3's to steal the game from Houston.

But why should we have a GOAT debate in the first place? How important it is?
It's because NBA media does not have any topic lol. I agree on your opinion that all of us have different perspective on every player. That's why we're bias on somebody. Don't tell me you don't have any favorite player. And maybe, that player could be your vote on GOAT.

There's always been GOAT debate in any sports not just basketball. Probably its because of the current MVP race that we have right now, it's too close and media needed to add a little sauce on the discussion, so to speak.

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April 10, 2019, 08:09:15 AM
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Dallas Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki confirmed his retirement from the NBA on Tuesday, April 9, calling time on a 21-season career that saw him become the greatest European player ever to grace the league.

Another legend leaves the pitch and now it is time for young stars to shine. Thank you Dirk for the amazing moments you have offered us.
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April 10, 2019, 09:45:30 AM
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I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time.  Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships.  Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen.  James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
It is your opinion and that is the way you saw it but i saw the opposite. Players like Pippen, Grant, Paxson, Cartwright transformed into a good player because of MJ and he played whoever his teammates would be unlike Lebron who chooses players to play alongside with him. I doubt that he could have that championship ring if he remain in Cleveland.

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April 10, 2019, 10:29:09 AM
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Dallas Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki confirmed his retirement from the NBA on Tuesday, April 9, calling time on a 21-season career that saw him become the greatest European player ever to grace the league.

Another legend leaves the pitch and now it is time for young stars to shine. Thank you Dirk for the amazing moments you have offered us.
He is fulfilled as a player, he got a championship and he introduce their kind of basketball in the NBA.
Now, it's time for the young star and I have my favorite young stars that will be Dirk like in the future, they are Luka and big Porzi. 

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