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November 19, 2012, 06:37:23 PM
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Why is everyone so surprised at legalization of weed? This has been coming for a long time. Even my mother-in-law in Washington voted for legalization. The real question is "why was it ever illegal?"

Yes finally, in the 21st century with... Iran? wtf.

Marijuana is used quite a bit in Iran, especially in cooking.

It's also a hell of a lot cheaper than it is here (the U.S.). I think it's going for $5 a gram on average right now.

As far as smoking goes, last time I checked it is actually illegal to smoke it but it's a law that is never enforced. Opium usage is so heavy in Iran that weed is practically a baby drug.
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You mention that this oil may be uneconomical to recover.  This is only partially true.  While a well is expensive to drill the costs are recovered in the first few months of operation.  The cost of this oil comes from transport.  People I have spoken with peg it around $22 a barrel to ship due to lack of pipeline capacity, meaning most of the oil is shipped by rail.  As long as oil prices are high this isn't a problem.  However should the price fall it could become economical due to shipping concerns.  The proposed Keystone XL pipeline was supposed to have a load station in montana for some of this oil.  However, many people in the area speculate it was nixed due to pressure from Obama's good friend, Warren Buffet.  Berkshire Hathaway owns a 100% stake in Burlington northern Santa Fey railroad that benefits greatly from the increased rail traffic.  

I would add that the cost of rail transportation of oil is relatively cheap. Moving freight by rail is 3 times more fuel efficient than moving freight on the highway. Trains can move a ton of freight nearly 500 miles on a single gallon of fuel. I thing vast majority of the transportation cost for domestic oil must be in the local delivery (last 50 or 100 miles) where it's in a tank on the back of a truck.

But either way, can largely discount the cost of shipping oil, assuming that the person producing it is also the one transporting it. When you're talking about a 100000 gallons being transported on trucks, and consuming maybe 500 or 1000 gallons of that... it's simply added cost of doing business and really shouldn't affect prices at the pump.




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You mention that this oil may be uneconomical to recover.  This is only partially true.  While a well is expensive to drill the costs are recovered in the first few months of operation.  The cost of this oil comes from transport.  People I have spoken with peg it around $22 a barrel to ship due to lack of pipeline capacity, meaning most of the oil is shipped by rail.  As long as oil prices are high this isn't a problem.  However should the price fall it could become economical due to shipping concerns.  The proposed Keystone XL pipeline was supposed to have a load station in montana for some of this oil.  However, many people in the area speculate it was nixed due to pressure from Obama's good friend, Warren Buffet.  Berkshire Hathaway owns a 100% stake in Burlington northern Santa Fey railroad that benefits greatly from the increased rail traffic.  

I would add that the cost of rail transportation of oil is relatively cheap. Moving freight by rail is 3 times more fuel efficient than moving freight on the highway. Trains can move a ton of freight nearly 500 miles on a single gallon of fuel. I thing vast majority of the transportation cost for domestic oil must be in the local delivery (last 50 or 100 miles) where it's in a tank on the back of a truck.

While that is true, pipelines are even cheaper, if the volume is there.  It all has to end up at a refinery first anyway.  This is actually one of the problems with oil in the Dakotas, there are no existing pipelines and no plans for new ones.  If the claims for the volume of oil were believable to the oil companies themselves, they'd be investing in pipelines that could move that volume.  The fact that the only planned pipeline through the area isn't going to have a intake in the Dakotas should be evidence enought that the claims might not be credible.

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