am i the only bitcoin user that has never seen silk road?

[Lurk]

I know you need to use tor browser and im sure i could figure out how to get there if i really tried.

 Just curious, is it all basically drugs and illegal things or is it a marketplace where you can find other stuff.

If I'm not looking to purchase drugs or illegal items is there any reason for me to see what this site is all about?

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[MysteryMiner]

Not only drugs. There is also a legitimate computer equipment and electronics like video cards and cables or flashlights. But use different SR username and shipping address if you are going to buy legal item. They might be cops trying to harvest user shipping addresses and other information.

[chmod755]

It's not just drugs, but I think most things are illegal in many countries (at least somewhere in the world)

I never bought anything from SR, but I registered an account a year ago to see what's happening there.

Not only drugs. There is also a legitimate computer equipment and electronics like video cards and cables or flashlights. But use different SR username and shipping address if you are going to buy legal item. They might be cops trying to harvest user shipping addresses and other information.

Maybe… some SR users are even talking about it using their real names on the clearnet…

[Benson Samuel]

It is mostly drugs and other small items.

Used to have weapons as well until recently.

Really nothing much to look at in there, but it is a necessary experience to see what SR is like.

If you are going to buy a legal item from SR, can't see why cops might want to harvest your address.

[MysteryMiner]

I think most things are illegal in many countries (at least somewhere in the world)

It is absolutely true. In USSR in some point of history it was illegal to privately own typewriter or handgun. Typewriters are legal in USA as well as most handguns and rifles, but the same guns in most of Europe will get you many years in prison. The cocaine and heroine was legal to own and use in most parts of world in early 20-th century. Now the same bottle with the same substance will ruin your and your families life! And not by addiction but by cops and lawyers! The "legal or forbidden item" game is invented for retarded children to play. Real man get what they want!

[Lurk]

   so how do you order things if you cant have them delivered to your house?  I'm just kind of curious about the whole thing.
     If its not an illegal item why would it matter if the feds had my address.

   also, is it wise to give drug dealers and probably gangsters your address?  especially if you make a large purchase. They could realize you have a decent amount of money and come track you down.

[Isokivi]

Nope. Ive been to the torweb also and found nothing of interest, never even bothered checking out silk-road.

[Benson Samuel]

  so how do you order things if you cant have them delivered to your house?  I'm just kind of curious about the whole thing.
     If its not an illegal item why would it matter if the feds had my address.

   also, is it wise to give drug dealers and probably gangsters your address?  especially if you make a large purchase. They could realize you have a decent amount of money and come track you down.

From other user accounts: they pass on the address of an abandoned house in their neigbourhood.

Some also have their parcels sent to a PO Box.

But the bottom line is that anyone can order any item to your address, does not necessarily have to be you.

That is where the law cannot do much because they cannot prove that you have ordered the item that was delivered at your house.

[vite]

Never been at the S R

Anything that requires hiding your tracks must have something ilegal about it.

Transparency is the only way to go

[Lurk]

hmm interesting......well if the media says silk road is basically the only reason bitcoin has value   I should probably at least look at it.

 downloading tor now....if anyone wants to save me some time can you p.m. me how to actually get there?

[MysteryMiner]

Maybe… some SR users are even talking about it using their real names on the clearnet…

I'm not using Silk Road officer Piglet, I invented my post from rumors I have read on clearnet.

If you are going to buy a legal item from SR, can't see why cops might want to harvest your address.

Probably to catch the lowest hanging fruit? I dont know about legal consequences for cops to sell real drugs but selling legal items is legal for them. Information gathering. Maybe some high profile member buys some mining equipment from them so they can catch him.

so how do you order things if you cant have them delivered to your house?

Please read the Silk Road wiki. It have covered almost everything from ordering to receiving item.

If its not an illegal item why would it matter if the feds had my address.

You might want buy something illegal later using the same user name. The less they know the better.

also, is it wise to give drug dealers and probably gangsters your address?  especially if you make a large purchase. They could realize you have a decent amount of money and come track you down.

If you are going to buy any amount of drugs it is good idea to have so called "drop" that is unrelated address to you. And no, the drug dealers will not come to your address if they are not cops or informants. They don't know if you have money, drugs or anything valuable to that address. They don't even know if you are not a cop with swat team waiting them in that address. Or maybe large gang of other dealers that will goatse them.

[Lurk]

thanks mystery..cleared quite a bit up

[Benson Samuel]

hmm interesting......well if the media says silk road is basically the only reason bitcoin has value   I should probably at least look at it.

 downloading tor now....if anyone wants to save me some time can you p.m. me how to actually get there?

PM'd.

All the best

[MysteryMiner]

Anything that requires hiding your tracks must have something ilegal about it.

Transparency is the only way to go

Practicing hiding your tracks from increasingly oppressive government is illegal? If You have nothing to hide can you please stream live webcam feed from your bedroom and toilet?

Having privacy and means to deprive Big Brother from possibilities to blackmail you is not indication of crime.

[SaintDevil]

I was there once, everyone was like oh it's illegal place and you should not go there.
Found lots of regular stuff for sale too like electronics.
Oh and they had this special homemade cookies..

But that's where most people who doesn't understand what bitcoins are coming from saying that bitcoins is something illegal.

[MysteryMiner]

Bitcoin technology is a new weapon in arms race that have given us years and years of lead versus oppressors. The Silk Road is only a demo what is possible with technology when the flow of money cannot be controlled or traced by government or anyone else except the two persons involved in transaction. The AML have failed to stop such things to happen, it only is used for Big Brother to know how much money You have and what taste of anal lubricant You buy. This AML nightmare will not stop financing Wikileaks, Al-Qaeda, Santa Claus or anyone else that is not favored by government! I can make a donation to Hezbollah within seconds with few mouse clicks and with total anonymity. With my Credit Card I can only buy kosher-enabled food at local supermarket and pay card processing fees.

[Lurk]

i cant even get tor to work..it loads but times out....ahh well  maybe another time....curiosity killed the cat....and i dont know how many lives i have left.

[SaintDevil]

Bitcoin technology is a new weapon in arms race that have given us years and years of lead versus oppressors. The Silk Road is only a demo what is possible with technology when the flow of money cannot be controlled or traced by government or anyone else except the two persons involved in transaction. The AML have failed to stop such things to happen, it only is used for Big Brother to know how much money You have and what taste of anal lubricant You buy. This AML nightmare will not stop financing Wikileaks, Al-Qaeda, Santa Claus or anyone else that is not favored by government! I can make a donation to Hezbollah within seconds with few mouse clicks and with total anonymity. With my Credit Card I can only buy kosher-enabled food at local supermarket and pay card processing fees.

That would be pretty similar to cash. Except electronic cash.
I agree on the fact that we got all this credit cards and big companies managing it and tracking everything you do. I came from a small city in russia and had a hard time adjusting to use plastic because I have never seen anything like that.
And now switching back to the old methods. 

i cant even get tor to work..it loads but times out....ahh well  maybe another time....curiosity killed the cat....and i dont know how many lives i have left.

What problem do you have with it?

[Lurk]

i click on it to start....the little box come up... and when the browser appears it says its trying to load the tor project page  but just times out....my my firewall is blocking it?  I'll see what i can do

[Benson Samuel]

Are you facing this problem with Vidalia?