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February 09, 2016, 11:10:57 PM |
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I suspect that even if what OP is saying is true that the wealth concentration will eventually redistribute. Or maybe not, who knows. Look at the wealth distribution of the US, where 50% of wealth is concentrated in 1% of the people. Not sure if that's a danger or not, but it's a reality and I think bitcoin would survive it.
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February 10, 2016, 10:36:14 AM |
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I was wondering if this two factors:
- Milion of BTC lost by banks (like MT GOX) or by distracted people - Milion of BTC in hand of few people (like Satoshi) than now have in their hand more than 200 milion of $
Can damage the BTC economy? Shouldn't this 2 factors increase the BTC value more and more?
this two also make me afraid,they two can control bitcoin price on some exchange exatly,and they will playing chart like playing game -_- but i dont think this factors can damage bitcoin economy,as long so many developer try to develop bitcoin.
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February 10, 2016, 11:09:46 AM |
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I was wondering if this two factors:
- Milion of BTC lost by banks (like MT GOX) or by distracted people - Milion of BTC in hand of few people (like Satoshi) than now have in their hand more than 200 milion of $
Can damage the BTC economy? Shouldn't this 2 factors increase the BTC value more and more?
off course yes, if some big fish decides to dump all his coin the price will go lower and lower
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February 10, 2016, 02:13:53 PM |
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I was wondering if this two factors:
- Milion of BTC lost by banks (like MT GOX) or by distracted people - Milion of BTC in hand of few people (like Satoshi) than now have in their hand more than 200 milion of $
Can damage the BTC economy? Shouldn't this 2 factors increase the BTC value more and more?
off course yes, if some big fish decides to dump all his coin the price will go lower and lower But some people have faith in Bitcoin, so the price is higher than certain level. The present bottom is $350.
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February 10, 2016, 10:46:03 PM |
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if it dropped from 1000$ to the current level, who knows what can happen next?
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February 11, 2016, 05:59:19 AM |
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if it dropped from 1000$ to the current level, who knows what can happen next?
bitcoin will have always high price now 380$ and it will be higer and higer the price maybe will drop a little but then it will raise ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 11, 2016, 06:12:53 AM |
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Let's compare it with gold. A lot of gold are mined and then refined and used for jewelry. These items decrease the gold supply on markets, when it is hoarded in cupboards or in your safe. Some of these items are lost. < On beaches or in the water > Some people die with gold teeth in their mouths or motherboards and electrical appliances end up in landfills. Most of this gold are never re-cycled and are gone forever. < So it is out of circulation > This only increase the value of the gold currently in circulation. The same goes for bitcoins pulled from circulation. It just increase the price of the bitcoins that are in circulation.
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February 11, 2016, 12:08:21 PM |
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Let's compare it with gold. A lot of gold are mined and then refined and used for jewelry. These items decrease the gold supply on markets, when it is hoarded in cupboards or in your safe. Some of these items are lost. < On beaches or in the water > Some people die with gold teeth in their mouths or motherboards and electrical appliances end up in landfills. Most of this gold are never re-cycled and are gone forever. < So it is out of circulation > This only increase the value of the gold currently in circulation. The same goes for bitcoins pulled from circulation. It just increase the price of the bitcoins that are in circulation. Good analogy, but add to that that btc has a strictly limited quantity! So any coin lost means more value for the remaining ones =D
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February 11, 2016, 03:46:39 PM |
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Let's compare it with gold. A lot of gold are mined and then refined and used for jewelry. These items decrease the gold supply on markets, when it is hoarded in cupboards or in your safe. Some of these items are lost. < On beaches or in the water > Some people die with gold teeth in their mouths or motherboards and electrical appliances end up in landfills. Most of this gold are never re-cycled and are gone forever. < So it is out of circulation > This only increase the value of the gold currently in circulation. The same goes for bitcoins pulled from circulation. It just increase the price of the bitcoins that are in circulation. Good analogy, but add to that that btc has a strictly limited quantity! So any coin lost means more value for the remaining ones =D The market capitalization of Bitcoin will be much higher than gold in the future. Bitcoin has more usage than gold.
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February 11, 2016, 08:37:46 PM |
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I was wondering if this two factors:
- Milion of BTC lost by banks (like MT GOX) or by distracted people - Milion of BTC in hand of few people (like Satoshi) than now have in their hand more than 200 milion of $
Can damage the BTC economy? Shouldn't this 2 factors increase the BTC value more and more?
The millions lost be Gox where stolen not lost and yes the millions in the hands of the few could be a problem if they dumped them all at once, but i reackon they would get very little for them if that was done as the price would crash before they offloaded them.
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February 18, 2016, 11:38:16 AM |
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Let's compare it with gold. A lot of gold are mined and then refined and used for jewelry. These items decrease the gold supply on markets, when it is hoarded in cupboards or in your safe. Some of these items are lost. < On beaches or in the water > Some people die with gold teeth in their mouths or motherboards and electrical appliances end up in landfills. Most of this gold are never re-cycled and are gone forever. < So it is out of circulation > This only increase the value of the gold currently in circulation. The same goes for bitcoins pulled from circulation. It just increase the price of the bitcoins that are in circulation. Good analogy, but add to that that btc has a strictly limited quantity! So any coin lost means more value for the remaining ones =D The market capitalization of Bitcoin will be much higher than gold in the future. Bitcoin has more usage than gold. Gold is mainly the store of values, or an investment. Bitcoin is both an investment and a currency. You can use it.
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February 18, 2016, 11:48:57 AM |
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I've wondered about the lost bitcoins. Separate from the stolen (hacked) bitcoins, there are always going to be people that lose their private keys or die and nobody knows the private key and those coins are lost forever. There is really no way to know how many are lost. Does this affect the price since those coins can never go back into circulation but it is unknown that they are lost?
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February 18, 2016, 12:48:51 PM |
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There is really no way to know how many are lost. Does this affect the price since those coins can never go back into circulation but it is unknown that they are lost?
I think there is no way to know and there was a discussion already done here[1] .It does effects the price if it is happening too often or has happened with a large amount of btc's and IMO this was pretty much expected when it was created,so not much to worry bout. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1097562.320
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February 18, 2016, 12:51:17 PM |
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The Lost bitcoins shouldn't matter in the end, just lowers the supply for the demand. However when people who have invested into a currency back out, then the value of it goes down.
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February 19, 2016, 03:34:00 PM |
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They can not spend them, even if the try to buy/sell in BTC exchange market. On average all users are buy/sell with ~ 5 - 20 BTC and not more.
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February 20, 2016, 08:42:18 PM |
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They can not spend them, even if the try to buy/sell in BTC exchange market. On average all users are buy/sell with ~ 5 - 20 BTC and not more. If there are 10 million of users of bitcoin in a few years, on average, they will have no more than 2 bitcoin each.
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February 20, 2016, 09:08:54 PM |
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How could it be a danger? it'll only reduce btc supply hence increase btc price!
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February 20, 2016, 10:58:16 PM |
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Millions were lost due to transaction collapses. And a part of the generated bitcoin is in the hands of few people. In the second part half is accumulated. Now big companies are planning to enter who may own the remaining part which finally be a danger zone for common men as said.
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February 21, 2016, 08:39:33 PM |
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How could it be a danger? it'll only reduce btc supply hence increase btc price!
I also think the lost coin will make the remaining coin much more valuable as the supply has reduced. So price should rise.
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February 22, 2016, 09:06:38 AM |
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I hope with the price going up some of the hodlers with lots of coins will gradually exchange BTC for cash. This will slowly and continuously redistribute the coins to new users. As for Satoshi's fortune, I guess we can forget about them. Most likely Satoshi will keep the as "it is". However, even the coins are moved eventually, I am sure the effect will only be short term.
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