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November 10, 2012, 07:51:35 AM
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Please reply here!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12yfnk/cats_lead_feds_to_knightmb_worth_371kbtc_in/

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November 10, 2012, 08:13:44 AM
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Wow...way to go buddy. 4 million was just not enough was it? He even pleads ignorance....

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November 10, 2012, 08:48:32 AM
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What is this I don't even

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November 10, 2012, 10:48:06 AM
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reddit is leaking.

This guy has bad luck with being investigated for computer related crimes he claims he didn't commit.

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Brown’s home also was raided by federal authorities in 2009 in a case related to the theft of data from an insurance company, but he was never charged in the matter.

In the last post KnightMB made here, in June this year, he claimed that his pile of Bitcoins was pretty much all gone.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6825.msg973679#msg973679

It's probably worth remembering that he acquired the BTC under questionable circumstances and that there were allegations that he'd screwed over previous employers as well.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30632&sid=bc2ba1be6bb99fef8c9941ef67f4b5b3

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November 10, 2012, 10:51:18 AM
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Who'd be dumb enough to use a pendrive which was used for previous personal stuff? Seems like the hacker is a little smarter than we thought :O
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November 10, 2012, 11:45:50 AM
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What did the cat have anything to do with it?

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November 10, 2012, 11:49:57 AM
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What did the cat have anything to do with it?

http://www.thedaily.com/article/2012/11/09/110912-news-romney-tax-raid/

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November 10, 2012, 12:47:39 PM
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reddit seems to be having trouble making the link.  This messageboard's KnightMB is the same person who used to own Endless-sphere.  They both used knightmb@dyndns.org.

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I got a weird email from knight during the crisis from the following email: knightmb@knightmb.dyndns.org what i interpreted as warning me he had access to all PM's.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30632&start=30#p444475

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There is also "Items Seized" document with receipt involving his PayPal address: knightmb@endless-sphere.com.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/12yfnk/cats_lead_feds_to_knightmb_worth_371kbtc_in/c6z7orq

The PayPal address means that the guy the Feds questioned about the Romney tax returns is the former owner of Endless-sphere.  We know that person is "our" KnightMB because he used the knightmb.dyndns.org address both here and on Endless-sphere.  Therefore, "our" KnightMB is the guy the feds are investigating.  Which will probably make his former employers very happy.

More effort next time reddit.

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November 10, 2012, 02:54:23 PM
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So, this is kind of a big deal, right?  If he wasn't telling the truth about not having the coins, and they were on something of what the Feds confiscated, then the US government is sort of the largest holder of bitcoins...

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November 10, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
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Conspiracy theory:

No one would be dumb enough to include photos on the USB stick. Therefore we need a conspiracy.

We know that KnightMB acquired his 371k BTC by buying out partners in a BTC startup. He bought that 371k BTC for less than $5000.
The partners are likely pissed. They may have stolen the USB drive and staged the hoax in order to finger KnightMB.
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November 10, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
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The partners are likely pissed. They may have stolen the USB drive and staged the hoax in order to finger KnightMB.

I hope they are Chinese relic hunter über-hackers.
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November 10, 2012, 06:04:18 PM
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Wow...way to go buddy. 4 million was just not enough was it? He even pleads ignorance....

Lottery winner syndrome.  80% of people receiving windfalls are likely to quickly squander them, and within a few years be right back where they started.  Making money is half the battle, the other half is diversifying and protecting wealth, which requires intelligence and hard work.  I'd bet KnightMB sold out his BTC during the price lows of 2011 and/or put a good chunk in Pirate's fund and other scams, thus explaining the desperation that must've driven him to attempt that insane extortion scam.
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November 10, 2012, 06:35:57 PM
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why is that shot of the cat such bad quality?

http://downloads.thedaily.com/ui-images/2012/11/09/110912-news-romney-tax-raid-3-ss-662w-at-1x.jpg

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November 10, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
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Because the photographers over at BFL didn't take them.  Grin
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November 10, 2012, 10:32:54 PM
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Conspiracy theory:

No one would be dumb enough to include photos on the USB stick. Therefore we need a conspiracy.

We know that KnightMB acquired his 371k BTC by buying out partners in a BTC startup. He bought that 371k BTC for less than $5000.
The partners are likely pissed. They may have stolen the USB drive and staged the hoax in order to finger KnightMB.


hmm good call.

It doesn't make sense why someone with 3m+ USD worth of bitcoins would attempt to extort one of the world's most powerful people out of another million. While he is under secret service protection and intense media scrutiny, no less.

There is certainly a lot more than what is public to this story. Can't wait to watch it play out. All publicity is good publicity, so if this gets media attention it could be great for us.



Lottery winner syndrome.  80% of people receiving windfalls are likely to quickly squander them, and within a few years be right back where they started.  Making money is half the battle, the other half is diversifying and protecting wealth, which requires intelligence and hard work.  I'd bet KnightMB sold out his BTC during the price lows of 2011 and/or put a good chunk in Pirate's fund and other scams, thus explaining the desperation that must've driven him to attempt that insane extortion scam.

Or that.

It does seem very suspicious that the parents would say they don't recognize their friends' cats, but their daughter, presumably before the parents had the ability to coach her, identified them. Although at the same time, if they are innocent, they are freaking out, and could be excused for not picking a cat out of a lineup from a black and white photo.

This is a government investigation, so we have to assume everything that becomes public is not true.
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November 10, 2012, 11:01:40 PM
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It doesn't make sense why someone with 3m+ USD worth of bitcoins would attempt to extort one of the world's most powerful people out of another million. While he is under secret service protection and intense media scrutiny, no less.

It does if you assume that he was mostly telling the truth when he said he no longer has those Bitcoins but lying about why he no longer has them.  People over on Endless-sphere were talking about reporting him to the IRS, letting his former employers know about his deception and pretty much contacting everyone to whom he might owe money or may have screwed over in the past.  It's highly possible that his story about donating to Wikileaks is bullshit and that he took the Chinese relic collector route of partially returning funds rather than risk being put under intense scrutiny. 

His explanation makes no sense.  He claims that his family is barely scraping by on what he makes from his business, so why would he donate the last of his BTC to Wikileaks?  None of his posts on this board suggest that he's altruistic.  If he rid himself of whatever BTC he had left after failed investments, then I believe it was purely to cover his own ass.

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November 11, 2012, 12:19:09 AM
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why is that shot of the cat such bad quality?
Because it is easier to identify the cat from bad quality picture!

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November 11, 2012, 12:27:57 AM
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What an idiot.
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November 11, 2012, 12:42:21 AM
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I wonder if the fact that BTC were donated to both the "release" and the "suppress" address ups the ante in terms of charges.  It would be kind of funny if there's some horrible additional offence with which he can be charged because people did send him funds even if the amount was tiny.  I'm guessing that those funds are technically "proceeds of crime".

Oh god.  I'm just reading the search and seizure warrant and they're trying to get him for racketeering offences in addition to the 3 types of fraud.

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