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November 05, 2015, 07:45:43 PM |
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A Christian minister has been disciplined by prison authorities for quoting verses from the Bible that were deemed to be homophobic.
Rev Barry Trayhorn was acting as a volunteer chaplain at an institution for sex offenders when he recited the passage from the New Testament during a service.
The verses from Corinthians include homosexuality in a long list of sins, along with adultery, theft and drunkeness.
Mr Trayhorn said he wanted to explain to the congregation of inmates - many of whom have committed horrific sex abuse crimes - the Christian message that God will forgive those who repent.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298454/A-Christian-minister-disciplined-prison-authorities-quoting-verses-Bible-deemed-homophobic.html
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November 05, 2015, 08:00:55 PM |
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The prison does not need volunteer chaplains if they won't allow them to read the bible IMHO.
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November 06, 2015, 03:29:34 AM |
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If they don't want to hear homophobia then they should just ban the bible
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November 06, 2015, 08:14:52 AM |
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"Disciplined" was the wrong word. As usual when talking about religion this way, it is "persecuted."
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November 06, 2015, 08:30:15 AM |
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A Christian minister has been disciplined by prison authorities for quoting verses from the Bible that were deemed to be homophobic.
Rev Barry Trayhorn was acting as a volunteer chaplain at an institution for sex offenders when he recited the passage from the New Testament during a service.
The verses from Corinthians include homosexuality in a long list of sins, along with adultery, theft and drunkeness.
Mr Trayhorn said he wanted to explain to the congregation of inmates - many of whom have committed horrific sex abuse crimes - the Christian message that God will forgive those who repent.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298454/A-Christian-minister-disciplined-prison-authorities-quoting-verses-Bible-deemed-homophobic.htmlThey are sex offenders and he qoutes homosexuality in his sermon? Im not though but its not a great place to sermon things about homosexuality.
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November 06, 2015, 08:33:56 AM |
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A Christian minister has been disciplined by prison authorities for quoting verses from the Bible that were deemed to be homophobic.
Rev Barry Trayhorn was acting as a volunteer chaplain at an institution for sex offenders when he recited the passage from the New Testament during a service.
The verses from Corinthians include homosexuality in a long list of sins, along with adultery, theft and drunkeness.
Mr Trayhorn said he wanted to explain to the congregation of inmates - many of whom have committed horrific sex abuse crimes - the Christian message that God will forgive those who repent.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298454/A-Christian-minister-disciplined-prison-authorities-quoting-verses-Bible-deemed-homophobic.htmlThey are sex offenders and he qoutes homosexuality in his sermon? Im not though but its not a great place to sermon things about homosexuality. Seems to me that this might be the best place. If they were required to attend the worship service, then maybe not. If they attended the worship service because they were looking for what God commands, then it was a good move by the chaplain.
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November 06, 2015, 10:33:16 AM |
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They are sex offenders and he qoutes homosexuality in his sermon?
Im not though but its not a great place to sermon things about homosexuality.
the sermon was about sexual misconduct in general, it wasnt particularly focused on faggotry, he dealt with all kinds of lust in the sermon including adultery and rape
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November 08, 2015, 12:59:33 AM |
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Any prisoner attending a Christian Church Service would understand that these are quotes from the bible and not an individual's views. Same old story when people play the political correctness card.
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November 08, 2015, 05:38:18 AM |
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If they don't want to hear homophobia then they should just ban the bible That is exactly what is going to happen. Soon they will ban all the religious texts, including the Bible, Bhagavad Gita, Torah, Qurán, and Tripitaka. After that, they will ban heterosexual marriage. The Western World, including the United States and the European Union is lost to the deviants. China, Russia and India are going to be the new world superpowers.
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November 13, 2015, 02:50:23 PM |
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World is becoming strange womanly dystopia. I actually like it but I am nervous about future. Freedom of speech and being free to dislike homosexuality should be rights too.
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November 13, 2015, 02:57:35 PM |
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World is becoming strange womanly dystopia. I actually like it but I am nervous about future. Freedom of speech and being free to dislike homosexuality should be rights too.
Part of the problem is people assume thinking homosexuality is a sin, means they don't like people who do participate in it. It's why "homophobic" now means those who think it's a sin, versus those who are actually afraid of homosexual people or acts. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homophobic - "Fear, hatred, or mistrust of lesbians and gay men."There are plenty of Christians who will get labeled a homophobic even if they are friends with those who are gay, simply because they believe it's a sin. When Christians say adultery or lying is a sin and have parents or siblings or friends who commit adultery or lie, do they get called afraid of those who commit adultery or lie? It seems silly, right?
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March 25, 2016, 02:04:19 AM |
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The prison does not need volunteer chaplains if they won't allow them to read the bible IMHO.
I totally agree. They already know the chaplain will preach against sin from the bible's perspective, so why bring him in if you do not want to hear what he has to say?
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March 25, 2016, 02:40:51 AM |
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Religion is more likely a trigger to offend for these bum bandits. They are sex offenders and one trait they usually have in common is the need to release tension, in this case by sexually offending. Ask a Catholic priest how that plays into choir selection.
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March 25, 2016, 03:29:43 AM |
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World is becoming strange womanly dystopia. I actually like it but I am nervous about future. Freedom of speech and being free to dislike homosexuality should be rights too.
Part of the problem is people assume thinking homosexuality is a sin, means they don't like people who do participate in it. It's why "homophobic" now means those who think it's a sin, versus those who are actually afraid of homosexual people or acts. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homophobic - "Fear, hatred, or mistrust of lesbians and gay men."There are plenty of Christians who will get labeled a homophobic even if they are friends with those who are gay, simply because they believe it's a sin. When Christians say adultery or lying is a sin and have parents or siblings or friends who commit adultery or lie, do they get called afraid of those who commit adultery or lie? It seems silly, right? Tolerance is not enough. The gay lobby is demanding acceptance. They demand that people accept and condone their lifestyles while not tolerating, accepting, or condoning the lifestyles of religious peoples. Everyone deserves tolerance. No one is entitled to acceptance. Attempting to force people to accept your beliefs and lifestyle is intolerant, and religious people deserve tolerance just as much as homosexuals. This behavior is very intolerant.
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Gay people are only asking for equality, your argument about forcing people to except is thin because you are able tolerate other religions, therefore what some one does in their bedroom should be a lot easier.
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Gay people are only asking for equality, your argument about forcing people to except is thin because you are able tolerate other religions, therefore what some one does in their bedroom should be a lot easier.
Read what I stated again carefully. This has nothing to do with what people do in the privacy of their own homes, and everything to do with how they treat people with opposing beliefs IN PUBLIC. Equality first of all is a myth. No one is equal to anyone else, if that were the case we would all have to be clones. Pretending we are all equal strips us all of our uniqueness and individuality. What is a right of all humans however is TOLERANCE. Everyone deserves tolerance regardless of their sexuality or what they believe in as long as everything is consensual and does not infringe upon the rights of others. What no one has a right to is acceptance. Gay activist groups are DEMANDING acceptance, and no one has a right to demand other people ACCEPT their lifestyles or beliefs because that infringes on the freedoms of others. The kicker is while they demand acceptance they also refuse to even show religious peoples tolerance and actively seek to attack religious peoples and institutions. This is extremely hypocritical. Gay people don't deserve EXTRA rights, they deserve to be treated with tolerance like every other human does, including religious peoples.
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Right so your telling me someone who went to visit prisoners in jail is getting in trouble for pissing off the SJW or something for reading the bible. Bunch of pricks there. (And it's not the prisoners) On a side-note http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/donald-trump-social-justice-warrior/We’re beginning a second transition of moral cultures. The first major transition happened in the 18th and 19th centuries when most Western societies moved away from cultures of honor (where people must earn honor and must therefore avenge insults on their own) to cultures of dignity in which people are assumed to have dignity and don’t need to earn it. They foreswear violence, turn to courts or administrative bodies to respond to major transgressions, and for minor transgressions they either ignore them or attempt to resolve them by social means. There’s no more dueling. Campbell and Manning describe how this culture of dignity is now giving way to a new culture of victimhood in which people are encouraged to respond to even the slightest unintentional offense, as in an honor culture. But they must not obtain redress on their own; they must appeal for help to powerful others or administrative bodies, to whom they must make the case that they have been victimized. It is the very presence of such administrative bodies, within a culture that is highly egalitarian and diverse (i.e., many college campuses / perhaps even prisons) that gives rise to intense efforts to identify oneself as a fragile and aggrieved victim. This is why we have seen the recent explosion of concerns about microaggressions, combined with demands for trigger warnings and safe spaces.
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Gay people are only asking for equality, your argument about forcing people to except is thin because you are able tolerate other religions, therefore what some one does in their bedroom should be a lot easier.
If you read some of those gay activists they are demanding acceptance indeed, as they see tolerance as "not enough". As they claiming mere tolerance is just a passive coexistence without interactions, and such attitude isolating them from the rest of the society. They want you to invite them to your birthday party instead of just smiling and nodding to them while you keep avoiding any closer social interaction.
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Gay people are only asking for equality, your argument about forcing people to except is thin because you are able tolerate other religions, therefore what some one does in their bedroom should be a lot easier.
If you read some of those gay activists they are demanding acceptance indeed, as they see tolerance as "not enough". As they claiming mere tolerance is just a passive coexistence without interactions, and such attitude isolating them from the rest of the society. They want you to invite them to your birthday party instead of just smiling and nodding to them while you keep avoiding any closer social interaction. First of all, lets not make this personal. I have several gay friends and personally don't have any issues treating them like anyone else. Now that that is aside and we can make this about the topic and not me personally... What gives them the right to DEMAND acceptance from anyone? Should they be forced to invite people they don't agree with to their birthday parties? Are you even thinking about what you are typing? This demand is NOT WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS because it INFRINGES UPON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. No one has the right to appropriate the rights of others, I don't care how victimized you feel. Everyone has a right to tolerance, everyone DOES NOT have the right to acceptance. They can want it and strive for it all they want, but they DO NOT have a right to demand it and mistreat those who do not give that acceptance. You can not make other people accept what they do not believe in, they have NO RIGHTS to do this, and this behavior is not only extremely hypocritical, but counterproductive to their actual claimed goal of acceptance. Instead this behavior creates even more conflict and resistance leading to less tolerance on BOTH sides of this conflict.
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First of all, lets not make this personal. I have several gay friends and personally don't have any issues treating them like anyone else. Now that that is aside and we can make this about the topic and not me personally... What gives them the right to DEMAND acceptance from anyone? Should they be forced to invite people they don't agree with to their birthday parties? Are you even thinking about what you are typing? This demand is NOT WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS because it INFRINGES UPON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. No one has the right to appropriate the rights of others, I don't care how victimized you feel. Everyone has a right to tolerance, everyone DOES NOT have the right to acceptance. They can want it and strive for it all they want, but they DO NOT have a right to demand it and mistreat those who do not give that acceptance. You can not make other people accept what they do not believe in, they have NO RIGHTS to do this, and this behavior is not only extremely hypocritical, but counterproductive to their actual claimed goal of acceptance. Instead this behavior creates even more conflict and resistance leading to less tolerance on BOTH sides of this conflict. Are you complaining to me ?!? Perhaps this is because of my quite far from perfect english, but I thought it's clear that I'm talking about the demands of "some gay activists" what I've found on the net.
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