Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT

[DiamondCardz]

Satoshi did envision that an increase in the block size would eventually be likely. He did not envision that it would be pseudo-forced by the large businesses in the Bitcoin ecosystem and that it would not be done by major consensus. It goes against the ideals of what Bitcoin was created for.

[Denker]

Why again and always these XT and BIP 101 topic?
Hearn is a sneaky bastard.I guess the majority of the forum here knows that. And as far as I know the companies are not just open for BIP101.
I'm myself wanna have a decentralized Bitcoin with as much nodes as possible however I also wanna see an increase in Blocksize.There has to be a healthy balance between these two things.But I do not see this happening with BIP101 and XT. Everyone supporting this will help to change Bitcoin into a centralized network and therefore give it into the hands of regulators, banks. I think it's not necessary to mention what will happen then to Bitcoin.Game over!

[CIYAM]

Of course we ALL agree it would be great to be able to run a full node with the complete blockchain on a Nokia phone but that solution didn't arrive and now it is simply time to move forward according to the more realistic path envisioned by Satoshi.

Satoshi's vision did not include Coinbase's CEO nor blacklists and all the other shit that is trying to be introduced by XT.

Theymos is correct in banning XT as it will destroy Bitcoin if it ever succeeds.

And it won't succeed as people like me are going to keep attacking you until you lose (this forum is no friend of mine as @theymos deleted his trust to me and BadBear won't remove the negative trust he gave me that makes me look like a scammer but still I will keep up this fight).

[knight22]

You do realize there is also no consensus for the status quo? Right now where are experiencimg the economic pressure for increased capacity. That pressure will just keep building up until it cracks or a consensus is finally reach. It is unfortunate that Core is willing to let it crack.

[CIYAM]

You do realize there is also no consensus for the status quo? Right now where are experiencimg the economic pressure for increased capacity. That pressure will just keep building up until it cracks or a consensus is finally reach. It is unfortunate that Core is willing to let it crack.

That is just rubbish - as I've pointed out many times before only spam attacks have made blocks full.

You guys just keep on repeating nonsense to try and fool people - but those that are smart *are not fooled*.

It is pretty clear to me that you are being paid to shill - I hope your conscience is happy with the role that you are playing in this.

[knight22]

And it won't succeed as people like me are going to keep attacking you until you lose (this forum is no friend of mine as @theymos deleted his trust to me and BadBear won't remove the negative trust he gave me that makes me look like a scammer but still I will keep up this fight).

What a nice person you are.

[brg444]

You do realize there is also no consensus for the status quo? Right now where are experiencimg the economic pressure for increased capacity. That pressure will just keep building up until it cracks or a consensus is finally reach. It is unfortunate that Core is willing to let it crack.

By definition existence of the status quo entails that this is where consensus lays.

[CIYAM]

What a nice person you are.

Well at least I'm not a shill (and I knew you'd finally resort to this kind of personal attack).

[CIYAM]

By definition existence of the status quo entails that this is where consensus lays.

A voice of sanity!

[CIYAM]

The approach of Coinbase is that of a bully.

I am not going to let that go unnoticed.

[knight22]

By definition existence of the status quo entails that this is where consensus lays.

A voice of sanity!

Well the poeple moving away disagree. Deal with it.

[CIYAM]

Well the poeple moving away disagree. Deal with it.

Again - why not just "fork now" if you really have the support?

Answer: You don't and you won't - so you just keep on posting in the hope that it will happen - but *it won't*.

You guys probably didn't expect people like me to "stand up against you" but now you are seeing that you are fighting a losing battle - so "deal with that".

[brg444]

By definition existence of the status quo entails that this is where consensus lays.

A voice of sanity!

Well the poeple moving away disagree. Deal with it.

We actually welcome corporatist shills and banking parasites moving away from Bitcoin. It's been long due anyway. Fork off!

[mexxer-2]

By definition existence of the status quo entails that this is where consensus lays.

A voice of sanity!

Well the poeple moving away disagree. Deal with it.

Oh just go over to your stupid bitcoin forum and shill"advertise" your bullshit"ideas" there. You're just making it a big deal out of nothing, bitcointalk is a private forum, it has its own rules, deal with it.

[DiamondCardz]

So what happens when Coinbase, BitPay and Blockchain try to get us to move to XT?

a) We move and state that we are fine with the big companies pushing us around, and the dream of Bitcoin being a decentralized currency where the decisions are made mainly by the users is dead.

b) Consensus for BIP101 fails and Coinbase, BitPay and Blockchain are left failing. The Bitcoin price will crash if something as dramatic as this happens.

These companies are leading us down a rocky road for their own personal gain.

[CIYAM]

I've started a topic to rail against this crap: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1240437.0

[knight22]

Well the poeple moving away disagree. Deal with it.

Again - why not just "fork now" if you really have the support?

Answer: You don't and you won't - so you just keep on posting in the hope that it will happen - but *it won't*.

You guys probably didn't expect people like me to "stand up against you" but now you are seeing that you are fighting a losing battle - so "deal with that".

So you want to force poeple down your path? What a nice person you are. But no, poeple won't use bitcoin as is if it doesn't fit their needs. I am not sure why it makes you mad.

[CIYAM]

So you want to force poeple down your path? What a nice person you are. But no, poeple won't use bitcoin as is if it doesn't fit their needs. I am not sure why it makes you mad.

It is only you that are supporting "forcing people down a path".

I don't care whether block sizes get bigger or not as long as it is agreed by the miners.

[knight22]

So you want to force poeple down your path? What a nice person you are. But no, poeple won't use bitcoin as is if it doesn't fit their needs. I am not sure why it makes you mad.

It is only you that are supporting "forcing people down a path".

I don't care whether block sizes get bigger or not as long as it is agreed by the miners.

Peolpe freely moving away are not forcing you anything. I am not sure why you feel that way.

[CIYAM]

Peolpe freely moving away are not forcing you anything. I am not sure why you feel that way.

People (which apparently you can't spell) will move away without requiring your shilling.