Time to stand up to the XT shills here!

[meono]

Why is not the opposite?  

How about you quote the misinformation rather than just making such statements?

Basically I think we are all getting sick and tired of the XT shills that don't even understand the technical arguments but just seemingly want to have Mike Hearn as their leader.

And what are your "technical arguments" ?


In contrast, statements like ".... just seemingly want to have Mike Hearn as their leader." are nothing but proves you're an idiot.

BIP101 does not make anyone a leader.

What a hypocrite prick!

[Envrin]

Totally against it here.  Mike and Gavin can sit and spin.

I don't know who they think they are to basically try a hostile takeover of the world's first (popular) crypto-currency, but that's a pretty shitty move on their part.  There's only a few things in life you simply don't do, and this is one of them.

[BillyBobZorton]

I would like to have a rational explanation about why you poeple think free choices but be fighted. And how does that fit bitcoin vision.

If you would stop shilling and enter into a discussion then maybe that would be possible.

How a discussion is possible with people unwilling to move an inch in a timely mater?

There's nothing to discuss at this point to be honest. Big blocks centralize Bitcoin, no one wants a centralized Bitcoin unless you are clueless or you have an hidden agenda to weaken Bitcoin. Those are the two only options.

[meono]

Totally against it here.  Mike and Gavin can sit and spin.

I don't know who they think they are to basically try a hostile takeover of the world's first (popular) crypto-currency, but that's a pretty shitty move on their part.  There's only a few things in life you simply don't do, and this is one of them.

Another idiot making stupid statement.

LOL at "hostile takeover "

Like did he put a gun to your fcking head?

[meono]

I would like to have a rational explanation about why you poeple think free choices but be fighted. And how does that fit bitcoin vision.

If you would stop shilling and enter into a discussion then maybe that would be possible.

How a discussion is possible with people unwilling to move an inch in a timely mater?

There's nothing to discuss at this point to be honest. Big blocks centralize Bitcoin, no one wants a centralized Bitcoin unless you are clueless or you have an hidden agenda to weaken Bitcoin. Those are the two only options.

For crying out loud, this has been said a million times.

5000 nodes means it already centralized, ppl who are running full nodes can still run full nodes with big blocks. But thats only in running full nodes.

However without having big blocks or having bandwidth as another parameter in mining, mining is way too centralized which is a bigger problem.

The last part in your post is just a poor piss attempt to attack, frankly it makes you look clueless.

[Envrin]

Another idiot making stupid statement.

LOL at "hostile takeover "

Like did he put a gun to your fcking head?

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what the attempt was.  They wanted to force a hard fork, move everyone to their version, then according to them begin setting up blacklists, and god knows what.  They were doing this for the betterment of their selves, not bitcoin.

Thankfully they fell flat on their face, as the miners have already voted, and they don't give a shit about XT.

[meono]

Another idiot making stupid statement.

LOL at "hostile takeover "

Like did he put a gun to your fcking head?

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what the attempt was.  They wanted to force a hard fork, move everyone to their version, then according to them begin setting up blacklists, and god knows what.  They were doing this for the betterment of their selves, not bitcoin.

Thankfully they fell flat on their face, as the miners have already voted, and they don't give a shit about XT.

Hardfork must happen if you want to change blocksize.

BIP101 is an implementation of a solution. The issue has been debated for 2 yrs that goes no where. The group of ppl who block any proposals are hired and working on Blockstream which competes directly with Bitcoin for growing.

The rest of your posts are nothing but FUD, ie. blacklist and "god knows what"

This has been discussed thousands times. But i'm sure some cluless noobs will fall for all the FUD threads.

[hdbuck]

Another idiot making stupid statement.

LOL at "hostile takeover "

Like did he put a gun to your fcking head?

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what the attempt was.  They wanted to force a hard fork, move everyone to their version, then according to them begin setting up blacklists, and god knows what.  They were doing this for the betterment of their selves, not bitcoin.

Thankfully they fell flat on their face, as the miners have already voted, and they don't give a shit about XT.

Hardfork must happen if you want to change blocksize.

BIP101 is an implementation of a solution. The issue has been debated for 2 yrs that goes no where. The group of ppl who block any proposals are hired and working on Blockstream which competes directly with Bitcoin for growing.

The rest of your posts are nothing but FUD, ie. blacklist and "god knows what"

This has been discussed thousands times. But i'm sure some cluless noobs will fall for all the FUD threads.

you are the one spreading fud.

bitcoin is perfectly working as of now - and despite the spam attacks it undertook.

and for the thousand time, blocksize is irrelevant to scaling effectively.

but i agree you should fork off already.

the sooner the better. noob.

[ArticMine]

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bitcoin is perfectly working as of now - and despite the spam attacks it undertook.

and for the thousand time, blocksize is irrelevant to scaling effectively.

...

So what is your solution for Bitcoin to scale?

[hdbuck]

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bitcoin is perfectly working as of now - and despite the spam attacks it undertook.

and for the thousand time, blocksize is irrelevant to scaling effectively.

...

So what is your solution for Bitcoin to scale?

surely by not arbitrarily modifying a parameter that is irrelevant to the matter at first.

i mean, are you guys really that stupid?

pretending to understand what you obviously don't?

[ArticMine]

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I asked: What is your solution for Bitcoin to scale? I did not ask: What is not your solution for Bitcoin to scale?. There is a big difference.

[hdbuck]

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I asked: What is your solution for Bitcoin to scale? I did not ask: What is not your solution for Bitcoin to scale?. There is a big difference.

i understand that blocksize is not a solution to scale. what do you understand?

[ArticMine]

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I asked: What is your solution for Bitcoin to scale? I did not ask: What is not your solution for Bitcoin to scale?. There is a big difference.

i understand that blocksize is not a solution to scale. what do you understand?

I understand that storing 4 GB of data in 2015 does not require a warehouse full of punched cards and the budget of a superpower as it did in 1959.

Edit: Blocksize is the solution to scale unless of course you plan to store the blockchain using IBM punched cards at 80 bytes per card.

[hdbuck]

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I asked: What is your solution for Bitcoin to scale? I did not ask: What is not your solution for Bitcoin to scale?. There is a big difference.

i understand that blocksize is not a solution to scale. what do you understand?

I understand that storing 4 GB of data in 2015 does not require a warehouse full of punched cards and the budget of a superpower as it did in 1959.

what 4Gb of data?

[ArticMine]

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what 4Gb of data?

This 4GB of data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#/media/File:IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg

[hdbuck]

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what 4Gb of data?

This 4GB of data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#/media/File:IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg

are we still talking about the same thing here?

how relevant to scaling bitcoin these IBM card storage are?

[chek2fire]

I think is not silly everyone who defend the real meaning of bitcoin but everyone who try to take control of it, change it and transformed to be a small part to the old financial system. Bitcoin is more than that it creates a new financial system it is a revolution.
Is clear this from whom is behind the support of the Bitcoin hijack.
And for everyone who say that is very simple to fork bitcoin i wll advice him to spent some time to watch this lecture

https://youtu.be/AikLs1P4_PA

before and months after a violence fork like bitcoinXT we will talk about an economical chaos in bitcoin ecosystem or in other world i will advise everyone if it coming a fork like that the best option is to sell his bitcoins. They will have any value after that.

[ArticMine]

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what 4Gb of data?

This 4GB of data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#/media/File:IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg

are we still talking about the same thing here?

how relevant to scaling bitcoin these IBM card storage are?

Scaling Bitcoin today is as relevant as scaling credit cards was back in the 1950's. http://newnumismatics.weebly.com/uploads/4/1/3/2/41323823/4474661.jpg?331 Does anyone really believe that the current transaction volume of the VISA network could happen with the punched card technology of the 1950s? Yet there are those that wish to cripple Bitcoin to the technology of today.

[chek2fire]

yes we all agree to scale bitcoin but not in the way that bitcoinXT is propose. Bitcoinxt movement has a hidden agenda and is clear that they want to take control of the bitcoin core.

[hdbuck]

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what 4Gb of data?

This 4GB of data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#/media/File:IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg

are we still talking about the same thing here?

how relevant to scaling bitcoin these IBM card storage are?

Scaling Bitcoin today is as relevant as scaling credit cards was back in the 1950's. http://newnumismatics.weebly.com/uploads/4/1/3/2/41323823/4474661.jpg?331 Does anyone really believe that the current transaction volume of the VISA network could happen with the punched card technology of the 1950s? Yet there are those that wish to cripple Bitcoin to the technology of today.

so to you bitcoin is a credit card