If you don't have any ideas, you shouldn't even complain.

[TheGr33k]

I think the number one idea for coming here (for me at least) was to learn. When I joined in 2011 there really were no other places to learn about and discuss btc. I needed knowledge.

During my stay here I've had ideas. I've seen others with bright ideas. I've seen them come and I've seen them go. All sorts of bright ideas. Maybe 1% actually took hold and were useful the rest were just pissing in the wind. Sorry guy, but the worlds full of brilliant thinkers with great ideas. The road to hell is also paved with good intentions.
You will have to excuse me now because I need to lead my horse to water...

You can't force it to drink though, so.

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[TheGr33k]

The people here can't do much. Those who are constantly asking for global adoption and for when the price will reach $25,000 per coin, are the kind of people who don't understand how Bitcoin works and what it exactly does. They are here to earn some free bits and just YOLO buy their coins at a certain price hoping it will rise so they can make a nice profit.

I am the kind of person who finds that actions speak louder than words. I try to keep the network as safe as possible by running a full node. It might not look like much, but I am definitely contributing. I make people aware of Bitcoin by telling what and how they can use it to benefit from it.

What I and other people can do is, visit local stores and explain them in detail what Bitcoin is and how it works. If I can make at least 1 store accept Bitcoin, my task is already successful.

Please don't be like that. Anything is possible.

1 store is definitely a step, but to be honest it's just very far from a huge adoption.

[richardsNY]

You are also complaining. Why would you care about these people if you can simply ignore them and continue with what you consider is important. A lot people here are to become rich with Bitcoin. They don't care about the technology behind it or that it has a gigantic potential. It's purely money as in profit for them.

[TheGr33k]

You are also complaining. Why would you care about these people if you can simply ignore them and continue with what you consider is important. A lot people here are to become rich with Bitcoin. They don't care about the technology behind it or that it has a gigantic potential. It's purely money as in profit for them.

I'm complaining about people complaining. How interesting.


Well, this is different. Sometimes people need to see how ridiculous they look by mimicking their behavior.

[USB-S]

You are also complaining. Why would you care about these people if you can simply ignore them and continue with what you consider is important. A lot people here are to become rich with Bitcoin. They don't care about the technology behind it or that it has a gigantic potential. It's purely money as in profit for them.

That was the reason why I jumped in. And the only reason I started learning more about bitcoin and I'm not the only one. Sad thing is that the more i learn the less i know. I've read bitcoins whitepapers, I understand them. I've watched more than a months worth of video material about bitcoin. I've read several altcoins whitepapers. As I put one piece of the puzzle on the floor I discover 10 more pieces I have yet to place. But all in all the bitcoin journey is one of the most exiting ones I've had in my life. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the community, but that may be my choice to see it that way.

[TheGr33k]

You are also complaining. Why would you care about these people if you can simply ignore them and continue with what you consider is important. A lot people here are to become rich with Bitcoin. They don't care about the technology behind it or that it has a gigantic potential. It's purely money as in profit for them.

That was the reason why I jumped in. And the only reason I started learning more about bitcoin and I'm not the only one. Sad thing is that the more i learn the less i know. I've read bitcoins whitepapers, I understand them. I've watched more than a months worth of video material about bitcoin. I've read several altcoins whitepapers. As I put one piece of the puzzle on the floor I discover 10 more pieces I have yet to place. But all in all the bitcoin journey is one of the most exiting ones I've had in my life. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the community, but that may be my choice to see it that way.

If that is why you joined, I'm not trying to judge you at all. I can support your decision.

As long as you're not yelling at everyone with an idea to help Bitcoin to "hurry up", I will not be mad at you at all.

[Kakmakr]

Every positive action you do for Bitcoin, contributes to it's success. The poster coming to this forum to complain or to ask something help to add traffic and activity to this site. This draws more attention to the site from advertisers and also new users with the same complaints or questions.

If more people complain about things, someone will notice and possibly identify a need or a opportunity and they will create something to fix that situation. You get moaners and you get do'ers. That is life, get used to it. 

[Slark]

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

[turvarya]

A thread, where OP complains, that people complain.
A lot of posts, which complain about OP complaining about other people complaining.

So, let's complain about people complaining that there are complaints regarding complaining people.

[TheGr33k]

A thread, where OP complains, that people complain.
A lot of posts, which complain about OP complaining about other people complaining.

So, let's complain about people complaining that there are complaints regarding complaining people.

And now you're complaining about me complaining about people complaining on me complaining about them complaining.

Why do you even need to complain?

My complaint is already valid.

[TheGr33k]

Every positive action you do for Bitcoin, contributes to it's success. The poster coming to this forum to complain or to ask something help to add traffic and activity to this site. This draws more attention to the site from advertisers and also new users with the same complaints or questions.

If more people complain about things, someone will notice and possibly identify a need or a opportunity and they will create something to fix that situation. You get moaners and you get do'ers. That is life, get used to it. 

It's just so difficult to get use to it when I just want us all to work together.

[TheGr33k]

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

[Amph]

i don't have an idea about for example the block limit issue, but i don't support one solution of it, like xt, i support other solution of it, like the dynamic block, if feasible

is this a result of complaining?

[turvarya]

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

Because they don't care. I am pretty sure, that hardly any of the people, you are talking about, are reading this.
Because it is a negative response to a negative response, which never leads to anything positive.
Because now we have another place where people are standing in a circle and talk about how bad the world has become.

[TheGr33k]

Fine. If you want to be here to learn about Bitcoin, that's great. Just don't sit around and complain that the price keeps dropping when you're not really doing anything to prevent that. I see that too much and it's annoying.

New thread title: "If you don't have any ideas, you shouldn't even complain".

I noticed, thanks, i appreciate it. The bitching needs to GO! There's no time or space for it here!

Use the word complaining. It's become an overly used word in this thread for some reason.

[TheGr33k]

i don't have an idea about for example the block limit issue, but i don't support one solution of it, like xt, i support other solution of it, like the dynamic block, if feasible

is this a result of complaining?

I couldn't tell you, unfortunately.

[TheGr33k]

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

Because they don't care. I am pretty sure, that hardly any of the people, you are talking about, are reading this.
Because it is a negative response to a negative response, which never leads to anything positive.
Because now we have another place where people are standing in a circle and talk about how bad the world has become.

You mean complaining about complaining.

[lorylore]

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

Because they don't care. I am pretty sure, that hardly any of the people, you are talking about, are reading this.
Because it is a negative response to a negative response, which never leads to anything positive.
Because now we have another place where people are standing in a circle and talk about how bad the world has become.

well i do care to read. it is kind of interseting to see this kind of thread in this forum becuz most of the time it is more focus on btc related, but this thread is more about the psycology for human reactions to btc.

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

Because they don't care. I am pretty sure, that hardly any of the people, you are talking about, are reading this.
Because it is a negative response to a negative response, which never leads to anything positive.
Because now we have another place where people are standing in a circle and talk about how bad the world has become.

You mean complaining about complaining.

yup he just trying to refer complaining = negative. and as contradict to what we learn in sch math, negative on negative does not give us positive.

[zencomp]

i think what the OP is trying to say is that soo many people sit on their hands and shout,
when will bitcoin go mainstream
when will bitcoin get noticed
when will bitcoin reach $xxxx

well, bitcoin is just code.. it has no voice, no arms no legs..
its the community. (you and me) that are the voice, arms and legs.. so for those asking when.. the answer is when they help themselves.

a prime example is a guy asking when his local shop will accept bitcoin.. like it will magically happen.. if he wants his local shop to accept bitcoin, he the person in the town, using that shop should go and ask that shop about bitcoin.. as a stranger 1000 miles away wont do it..

i really liked your reply, and the example you gave it perfectly correct instead of compalining that when will all shop owner will start bitcoin as payment option, instead they can go and ask the shop owner about bitcoin and its uses and how he can utilize in his business and how he can grow their business. like this only when we act that way we are supporting bitcoin and giving support in making if more familiar.

[TheGr33k]

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

Because they don't care. I am pretty sure, that hardly any of the people, you are talking about, are reading this.
Because it is a negative response to a negative response, which never leads to anything positive.
Because now we have another place where people are standing in a circle and talk about how bad the world has become.

well i do care to read. it is kind of interseting to see this kind of thread in this forum becuz most of the time it is more focus on btc related, but this thread is more about the psycology for human reactions to btc.

People will be always complaining about everything really. You can't change this no matter what. But some of our fail to notice good qualities of complains, they are motor of changes.
If people are dissatisfied they first complain and the try to change things. Complaining about complaining will lead us nowhere, really.

I can complain about people complaining to show them just how whiny they look. I don't know why that's so wrong.

Because they don't care. I am pretty sure, that hardly any of the people, you are talking about, are reading this.
Because it is a negative response to a negative response, which never leads to anything positive.
Because now we have another place where people are standing in a circle and talk about how bad the world has become.

You mean complaining about complaining.

yup he just trying to refer complaining = negative. and as contradict to what we learn in sch math, negative on negative does not give us positive.

Well then, I suppose I'm just complaining for the sake of complaining.