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November 12, 2015, 10:31:48 AM |
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PLEASE someone help with this DUST thing ! It is happening again and again and again.....I'm having the money and the fee is reasonable ... I want to move my money from this STUPID wallet ! HELP!
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Shibashi Dogemoto
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November 12, 2015, 10:34:15 AM |
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PLEASE someone help with this DUST thing ! It is happening again and again and again.....I'm having the money and the fee is reasonable ... I want to move my money from this STUPID wallet ! HELP!
Happened to me to... It wasn't the fee that was the problem, it was the change... Try selecting a different address to send the BTC from, or slightly lower/higher your fee or the sent ammount untill the problem dissapears
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shefchenko17 (OP)
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November 12, 2015, 11:45:00 AM |
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Why ? Why should I lower the amount or fee...I want to send this amount...I tried to change the fee more than 10 times and the same happened...and btw how am I supposed to select from which address to send money from ? There are these fields: Pay to , description , amount , fee. And that is all. Are there problems alike that in other wallets like armory etc... ?
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torusJKL
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November 12, 2015, 12:02:53 PM |
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Why ? Why should I lower the amount or fee...I want to send this amount...I tried to change the fee more than 10 times and the same happened...and btw how am I supposed to select from which address to send money from ? There are these fields: Pay to , description , amount , fee. And that is all. Are there problems alike that in other wallets like armory etc... ?
Let's assuem the following: - 0.00005600 BTC is considered as dust - you want to pay 0.001 BTC - your wallet holds 0.00155000 BTC - the fee you configured for this payment is 0.0005 BTC The calculation is as follow: 0.00155000 - 0.00100000 - 0.00050000 = 0.00005000 BTC = dust initial amount - payment - fee = remainder If you would pay a higher fee then the calculation could be like this: 0.00155000 - 0.00100000 - 0.00055000 = 0.00000000 BTC = no dust initial amount - payment - fee = remainder Or you could go the opposite way and pay less fee: 0.00155000 - 0.00100000 - 0.00000000 = 0.00055000 BTC = no dust initial amount - payment - fee = remainder
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shefchenko17 (OP)
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November 12, 2015, 12:07:21 PM |
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So the dust is the amount that will stay after the eventual transaction in my wallet ? And if it is too low I cannot do the transaction ?
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torusJKL
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November 12, 2015, 12:12:44 PM |
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So the dust is the amount that will stay after the eventual transaction in my wallet ? And if it is too low I cannot do the transaction ?
Yes but not in your wallet but in a specific address. The change address. And you also can't do a payment where the amount you pay is smaller than the dust.
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Shibashi Dogemoto
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November 12, 2015, 12:29:45 PM |
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torusJKL explained this perfectly... My second solution: use a different address to send the bitcoins from: open electrum go to adresses chose an address holding enough funds, right click on it chose send from This way, you can use a different input for the transaction, possibly changing the amount of change you send back to one of your own addresses Altough it's a problem you can fix yourself by chosing a different address, changing the fees, or the transfer amount, i do feel that electrum could actually calculate this for us, and use an input where this problem will not arise... Maybe it's a nice suggestion for the creator of electrum
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torusJKL
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November 12, 2015, 12:40:59 PM |
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Altough it's a problem you can fix yourself by chosing a different address, changing the fees, or the transfer amount, i do feel that electrum could actually calculate this for us, and use an input where this problem will not arise... Maybe it's a nice suggestion for the creator of electrum I created a feature request with a solution that I think could work out well. https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/1550Feel free to comment or enhance it. Hopefully it will find it's way into future versions of Electrum.
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shefchenko17 (OP)
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November 12, 2015, 12:42:08 PM |
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So the dust is the amount that will stay after the eventual transaction in my wallet ? And if it is too low I cannot do the transaction ?
Yes but not in your wallet but in a specific address. The change address. And you also can't do a payment where the amount you pay is smaller than the dust. Thanks. Btw this is really unnecessary and stupid because you should always send anything to just 1 address and you should always watch out about the dust...the dust to be : smaller than the payment ; to be not too small, because you wouldn't be able to do the transaction exactly because of this dust and to send from a specific address because ..of the dust I think that this electrum should be having a couple of changes in order to be less confusing and therefore more handy for us- the users!
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torusJKL
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November 12, 2015, 12:51:40 PM |
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According to the developer the standard behavior of Electrum is already to add the dust to the fee. What version of Electrum are you using?
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shefchenko17 (OP)
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November 12, 2015, 12:54:05 PM |
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Shibashi Dogemoto
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November 12, 2015, 01:02:00 PM |
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I've just read your issue on github... I can verify that the problem is reproducible on electrum 2.5.1... Thanks
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shefchenko17 (OP)
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November 12, 2015, 01:03:46 PM |
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torusJKL
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November 12, 2015, 01:05:08 PM |
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The dust amount has changed in the latest release of Bitcoin Core (0.11.1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214993.0Electrum currently does not take this change into account. Until a new version exists you will need to change the fee by yourself to remove the dust.
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Shibashi Dogemoto
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November 12, 2015, 01:11:12 PM |
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The dust amount has changed in the latest release of bitcoind (0.11.1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214993.0Electrum currently does not take this change into account. Until a new version exists you will need to change the fee by yourself to remove the dust. Thanks for clearing that up So, i the end, it was indeed a clean issue request, since we'll need an electrum update in order to "fix" the dust-issue (i know, it's not really an issue, but still, you need to do a manual intervention untill the issue is fixed"
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torusJKL
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November 12, 2015, 01:19:24 PM |
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There is nothing you can choose here. Every line is the same address an thus will be included in the transaction. What is the amount you want to send?
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November 12, 2015, 01:48:20 PM |
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There is nothing you can choose here. Every line is the same address an thus will be included in the transaction. What is the amount you want to send? yeah I thought so, but what about the other one...Why are there 2 different amounts Btw I already sent what I needed it before I shoot these pictures ( I do NOT know how but it happened! )
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November 12, 2015, 01:49:22 PM |
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many Electrum servers increased their minrelayfee recently, because of the spam attack. as a consequence, their dust threshold increased. I will release a new version of electrum to take this into account
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