new ckpool club run by philipma1957 with a nod to Member ziploc

[philipma1957]

the 8btc will run at nicehash and westhash.

I will try 400 th for 3 coins  fixed at each one cost of 6 coins

leaves us 2 coins left.  and 800th across the two pools for a day

 I will hold back with the two coins and then do 1 coin on each site .

spending the 8 coins by the weekend.

In in theory  we get 8btc  the little bit extra 1% is my fee to run it.

prize if hit  is 25 -  ck take's .125

= 24.875  coins


 8 shares =  ⅛ of 24.875 or 3.109375   each.



 block fees will be split into 10 shares.

1/10  to each of the 8 of us.

and the rest to ck as a tip.

so if fees are .20

each share gets   .02

and ck get 2 of them at .04

my one  share is divided:

 is me at .65/1.00      65%

jacobmayes at .25/1.00  25%

 and Solare at .1/1.00     10%


Quote

1- Philipma1957-   I will sub-set  jacobmayes and Solare   at .2525 and at .101

Regular 1BTC guys:

2- Ziploc           1.01
3- wmtomlinso   1.01
4-jxz                  1.01
5-dtmcnamara    1.01
6-PrivacyBTC       1.01
7-page14             1.01
8-Chris_Sabian      1.01

small guys 0.1BTC:

Quote
1-jacobmayes94 ===> 0.2.525BTC
2-Solare====>0.101BTC


we have a total of 8.0735 coins            


   the  .0735 is the fee me to run it  1% up front.


 my nicehash wallet is


 3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

[1714908718]

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[jacobmayes94]

When do we transfer the coins? I am 30 weeks behind reindexing my core and thus my wallet after a power outage so might be a few hours yet you mention 0.1 so I have basically 3 shares (almost) of 0.1 at 0.29? Jacob

[PrivacyBTC]

Should I send 1 btc to this address ?

3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

[Solare]

Regular 1BTC guys:

Quote

1- Philipma1957-   I will sub set  jacobmayes and Solare   at .253 and at .101
2- Ziploc           1.01
3- wmtomlinso   1.01
4-jxz                  1.01
5-dtmcnamara    1.01
6-PrivacyBTC       1.01
7-page14             1.01
8-Chris_Sabian      1.01

small guys 0.1BTC:

Quote
1-jacobmayes94 ===> 0.29BTC
2-Solare====>0.10192263BTC


we have a total of 7.064 coins          the  .064 is the fee


 my nicehash wallet is


 3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

Done sending, minus  .0005 tx

Sending from my nicehash account

[philipma1957]

Should I send 1 btc to this address ?

3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

no send 1.01  

[jacobmayes94]

Do I sent 0.29 or 0.1? My core reindex sucks.

Jacob

[Chris_Sabian]

Ok Everyone,

Before you start sending coins everywhere.  Let's take the chance to type everything up into a post so everyone knows what, when, and who is going on.  That way there is no confusion.  A difference in a few hours won't hurt anything.  

-Philipma1957, since you are 'running' the pool, would you post the payouts, chances, players, etc?

[PrivacyBTC]

To / From                                                                         Date                                       Amount   
3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH          Today 14:22:55 Unconfirmed Transaction!        -1.0101 BTC   

SENT

Thanks philip and ziploc
   

   

[Solare]

Pending withdraw request 0.10142263 to 3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH  Cancel
Withdraw request will be processed within 24 hours.

It´s going to take a while right?

[Ziploc]

I need some time to liquidate my alts and transfer everything to my wallet and to Phils...


Than if I understood well Phil You'Re taking care of the small guys ?

[philipma1957]

Ok Everyone,

Before you start sending coins everywhere.  Let's take the chance to type everything up into a post so everyone knows what, when, and who is going on.  That way there is no confusion.  A difference in a few hours won't hurt anything.  

-Philipma1957, since you are 'running' the pool, would you post the payouts, chances, players, etc?

Let us all slowdown please

1) philipma1957  subset to  jacobmayes .2525  and Solare at .101

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3)wmtomlinso  1.01 waiting for coins

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd
5-dtmcnamara    1.01
6-PrivacyBTC       1.01
7-page14             1.01  -----   pd
8-Chris_Sabian      1.01


one payment is in from privacyBTC  for 1.01

[Ziploc]

shouldn't be long......my wallet is out of sync for few days too...

[PrivacyBTC]

Why many users used their core ? What if you want to send payments on the go.

anyway That is not our topic .

I have to go guys and philib do what u see is good , start anytime and use any speed.
see u all soon.

[Ziploc]

Why many users used their core ? What if you want to send payments on the go.

anyway That is not our topic .

I have to go guys and philib do what u see is good , start anytime and use any speed.
see u all soon.

yeah I know I'm old school.....LOL

I'm more hold mentality but if I can multiply my coins and the odds/risk are acceptable....

[jacobmayes94]

I use my core so I can use a full node to help support the network, it was only a power failure that lead me to have to reindex it

What do you mean by mine subset? are us small ones pooling together to make 1BTC?

If we do the math, as I am gambling say 0.29 BTC what is outcome for me if it hits 1 block, or possibly two? for example no block = lost of course
1 block = X.XXX BTC 2 blocks = double the first...

I will wait until you have the break down as mentioned and then who am I sending my coins to? Just to double check it is 3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH
 Currently still reindexing so the few hours wait is okay

Jacob

[jxz]

Mine is sent.

https://blockchain.info/tx/815aa5920edc8842f6a9eeea5d9c80ab0641fe4015df14cc05ddad5c15c3e61c

Thanks philipma1957 for doing this.

[jacobmayes94]

I might need a few hours cause my core is reindexing

I increased CPU priority in hopes of speeding it up! As it involves calculations as part of this, I wonder if the core developers could make use of a GPU to assist in the reindex process as it isn't just downloading the blockchain but validating it?

Jacob

[Ziploc]

1.01 send...tx send by pm

[philipma1957]

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957  subset to  jacobmayes .2525  and Solare at .101

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3)wmtomlinso  1.01

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

5-dtmcnamara    1.01

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01


one payment is in from privacyBTC   for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz              for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc          for  1.01

[jacobmayes94]

right bear with me the moment it has finished I will send my contribution, it takes ages :/

Jacob

[philipma1957]

right bear with me the moment it has finished I will send my contribution, it takes ages :/

Jacob

okay send the .2525  you get credit for .25  which is 25% of my 1 share.  the .0025 is 1% labor fee to me for running the club.



  on my share    you will be included for .25   of 1.0 that is 25%



https://blockchain.info/address/3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH




send    0.2525 to here:

3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

[BannedDK]

Can i join in with 0.3 or do you want 0.255 like the other one?

[dtmcnamara]

i cannot get it at 1.01..... 0.5 is all i got right now

[philipma1957]

i cannot get it at 1.01..... 0.5 is all i got right now

Can i join in with 0.3 or do you want 0.255 like the other one?

I can work the two of you in as a 50-50 share


so that would be .505 each

can you both swing that?

[dtmcnamara]

i cannot get it at 1.01..... 0.5 is all i got right now

Can i join in with 0.3 or do you want 0.255 like the other one?

I can work the two of you in as a 50-50 share


so that would be .505 each

can you both swing that?

I can, can you B?

[philipma1957]

at Ziploc see how it starts to become more work





I am checking to see if

BannedDk will spilt on share 5)

with dtmcnamara

please reply guys?  .505 btc each.

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957  subset to  jacobmayes .2525  and Solare at .101

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3)wmtomlinso  1.01

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

5-dtmcnamara    1.01

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01


one payment is in from privacyBTC   for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz              for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc          for  1.01

[Ziploc]

at Ziploc see how it starts to become more work

yes I anticipated some of it.....that's why I suggested the fee...

but also this thing took off very fast...I thought that we will settle ''on paper'' and then everyone will send BTC before deadline and go....

anw we can slow down the things a bit......we still have 10 days before next difficulty jump....

anw It's appreciated....

and all that is the punishment for your good reputation

[BannedDK]

Only Got 0.32 in my breadwallet atm. i Need to cash in from slush pool first but its Late here so Wont be until tomorrow  

[philipma1957]

at Ziploc see how it starts to become more work

yes I anticipated some of it.....that's why I suggested the fee...

but also this thing took off very fast...I thought that we will settle ''on paper'' and then everyone will send BTC before deadline and go....

anw we can slow down the things a bit......we still have 10 days before next difficulty jump....

anw It's appreciated....

and all that is the punishment for your good reputation

check the writeup on first post.  it is a good plan for the coins.

still waiting for the rest of the coins.

[philipma1957]

Only Got 0.32 in my breadwallet atm. i Need to cash in from slush pool first but its Late here so Wont be until tomorrow  

that should work.

I say that because we have 3.03 btc in so far  and we don't have to rush into it.

Starting on fri night or sat night does not matter very much at all.

[BannedDK]

Alright thanks, ill sort out the slush payout tomorrow morning and Then ill send 0.505

[page14]

Sent 1.01

[Solare]

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957  subset to  jacobmayes .2525  and Solare at .101

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3)wmtomlinso  1.01

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

5-dtmcnamara    1.01

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01


one payment is in from privacyBTC   for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz              for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc          for  1.01


https://i.imgur.com/8jTFBcJ.png

Nicehash should make user 2 user transaction
it might take a while for my small amount to be delivered,

[jacobmayes94]

26 weeks from reindex completion D:

[Ziploc]

check the writeup on first post.  it is a good plan for the coins.

still waiting for the rest of the coins.

Looks like a good plan, I will trust your experience on that.

[philipma1957]

we are moving along  up to 4.04

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957  subset to  jacobmayes .2525  and Solare at .101

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3)wmtomlinso  1.01

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

5-dtmcnamara    1.01

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01 --------- pd

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01


one payment is in from privacyBTC   for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz              for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc          for  1.01
one payment is in from page14        for  1.01

my .65 is in so we are at 4.65

jacobmayes 0.2525
Solare         0.101    are due and will complete share one with me.



  3)wmtomlinso  1.01 --------------------    due

  5) dtmcnamara and  BannedDK    will split this   .505 each --------- both due total of 1.01

  8 )  Chris_Sabian      1.01 ---------------  due


so 3.35 due

[jacobmayes94]

when is the deadline? my core should be reindexed within the next few hours or as I sleep, it seems to reindex fast until it gets to like a year then it slows down badly!

Jacob

[philipma1957]

when is the deadline? my core should be reindexed within the next few hours or as I sleep, it seems to reindex fast until it gets to like a year then it slows down badly!

Jacob

do  not rush  it is 5:16 pm eastern standard time.

 I won't  go to sleep until 11:30 or so

I would prefer to start by 11 tonight  but If the funds are not in I can do it on Sat in the AM.

[jacobmayes94]

22:22 GMT I will do my best to have it in before you go to bed : )

Jacob

[Solare]

when is the deadline? my core should be reindexed within the next few hours or as I sleep, it seems to reindex fast until it gets to like a year then it slows down badly!

Jacob

do  not rush  it is 5:16 pm eastern standard time.

 I won't  go to sleep until 11:30 or so

I would prefer to start by 11 tonight  but If the funds are not in I can do it on Sat in the AM.

Philip, i believe i wont make it,  they give them self 24 hours before making the withdraw,
i´m not going to cancel if in case it will arrive before purchase
 

[philipma1957]

At jacob and solare  do your best.   something can be worked out. as it is my share we are sharing.



To the others right now we have   4.65 in the nice hash account  plus .04 in fees

[philipma1957]

we are moving along  up to 5.70

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957    my .65 part is paid     subset to [/b] jacobmayes .2525  and Solare at .101[/b]

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3) wmtomlinso     1.01

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

[/b]5-dtmcnamara + BannedDK  are .505 + .505 =   1.01[/b]

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01 --------- pd

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01 -------pd


one payment is in from privacyBTC      for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz                  for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc              for  1.01
one payment is in from page14            for  1.01
one payment is in from  Chris_Sabian   for 1.01

my .65 is in so we are at                         5.70  .05 of which is my fee

jacobmayes 0.2525
Solare         0.101    are due and will complete share one with me.



  3)wmtomlinso  1.01 --------------------    due

  5) dtmcnamara and  BannedDK    will split this   .505 each --------- both due total of 1.01

  


so 2.35 due


waiting  on confirms for last 1.01

https://i.imgur.com/MfnPoPi.png

[dtmcnamara]

just sent my 0.505

depending on when this runs i may have another .505 to do a full spot.

[jacobmayes94]

24 weeks behind... getting there

[philipma1957]

I am on a tablet.

Will check funds in a bit.  I do see we are over 6.3

[jacobmayes94]

21 weeks... this is a drag lol

[philipma1957]

okay solare is in as .

 his funds transferred.

we are moving along  up to 6.25 plus fees

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957    my .65 part is paid  + Solare is paid  .101     jacobmayes .2525  

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3) wmtomlinso     1.01------------------------              waiting

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

5-dtmcnamara     05.05 --------pd       BannedDK  .505   waiting

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01 --------- pd

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01 -------pd


one payment is in from privacyBTC      for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz                  for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc              for  1.01
one payment is in from page14            for  1.01
one payment is in from  Chris_Sabian   for 1.01

my .65 is in so we are at                         5.70  .05 of which is my fee

jacobmayes 0.2525--------------------------------------------waiting

Solare         0.101    -----pd



  3)wmtomlinso  1.01 --------------------    due

  5)BannedDK       .505  ---------------------   due

  


so 1.75 due

[jacobmayes94]

looks like I am last to go! okay to hold on until my core is reindexed? I will most likely have to wait until morning.

Jacob

[jacobmayes94]

right I had a better idea, so as not to keep everyone waiting, I just dumped the private key of my wallet and imported it into a  blockchain.info wallet will be sending funds now to 3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

EDIT: SENT and 1 confirmation : )

Is this everyone now?

Jacob

[philipma1957]

okay solare is in as .

 his funds transferred.

we are moving along  up to 6.25 plus fees

see screenshot below


1) philipma1957    my .65 part is paid  + Solare is paid  .101     jacobmayes .2525  

2)Ziploc          1.01 ----- pd

3) wmtomlinso     1.01------------------------              waiting

4-jxz                  1.01 --------- pd

5-dtmcnamara     05.05 --------pd       BannedDK  .505   waiting

6-PrivacyBTC       1.01 --------- pd

7-page14             1.01  -----   pd

8-Chris_Sabian      1.01 -------pd


one payment is in from privacyBTC      for 1.01
one payment is in from jxz                  for 1.01
one payment is in from Ziploc              for  1.01
one payment is in from page14            for  1.01
one payment is in from  Chris_Sabian   for 1.01

my .65 is in so we are at                         5.70  .05 of which is my fee

jacobmayes 0.2525--------------------------------------------waiting

Solare         0.101    -----pd



  3)  wmtomlinso  1.01 --------------------    due

  5)BannedDK       .505  ---------------------   due

  


so 1.75 due

1.5 due from



3)  wmtomlinso  1.01 --------------------    due

5)  BannedDK       .505  ---------------------   due


Sloopy pm'd and asked to join.

 so at

wmtomlinso ---------1.01

BannedDK  _______0.505


please get back to us.

[jacobmayes94]

I'm gonna be heading to bed... but if we start and hit while I am sleeping, wonderful! Keep us posted

mine was sent and should be there by now

[Ziploc]

If by the deadline we miss some players I don't see any harm to replace them....

as for adding new ones....
If we review terms: hash/time I don't see a problem

however it's not only my decision......all who already payed under original terms, would have to agree....

[philipma1957]

If by the deadline we miss some players I don't see any harm to replace them....

as for adding new ones....
If we review terms: hash/time I don't see a problem

however it's not only my decision......all who already payed under original terms, would have to agree....

Yeah waiting can sometimes make us lose lower prices.  The good thing is we can still wait a bit more.

We have sloopy waiting in the wings.

I am going to check back in an hour on the last two guys.  Then we can figure out when to start.

[Ziploc]

If by the deadline we miss some players I don't see any harm to replace them....

as for adding new ones....
If we review terms: hash/time I don't see a problem

however it's not only my decision......all who already payed under original terms, would have to agree....

Yeah waiting can sometimes make us lose lower prices.  The good thing is we can still wait a bit more.

We have sloopy waiting in the wings.

I am going to check back in an hour on the last two guys.  Then we can figure out when to start.

No problem, you know it

[philipma1957]

also with the 6.50 on hand we can do more then 1 day at 350th on each nice and west hash

so 700th for  30 hours


let me check on that.  that is close  maybe it would last 29  as sometimes the hash runs high.


Still waiting for


 3)wmtomlinso  1.01 --------------------    due

  5)BannedDK       .505  ---------------------   due

[wmtomlinso]

think positive


Sorry for the delay - had an uncle pass away.  My email is mark@tomlinson.net  I am in for what ever is needed - I have 2 blocks worth of btc.    

[philipma1957]

Sent 1.01 to 3DtrgsQnGcZ7SqGGdMDe9nYfKrNoYWnSyH

think positive

Waiting on confirmation .

[philipma1957]

we are in... two orders at 350th

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6




{"hashrate1m": "675T", "hashrate5m": "584T", "hashrate1hr": "96.4T", "hashrate1d": "4.31T", "hashrate7d": "617G", "lastupdate": 1447477673, "workers": 7, "shares": 86943627, "bestshare": 1,297,482,164.1680741}

over 1 billion share!







each for 24 hours fixed at .0076

cost was 3 + 3 = 6 coins  

we have 1.5 coins left

we did 7.5 coins vs 8 coins

we are missing 5)BannedDK       .505  ---------------------   due

when we did these in spring/summer   we would let the missing guy join in a hour or so late as long as no blocks were hit.

So at:

 BannedDK if funds unlock in an hour or so you can send the .505 in we will go back to and 8 coins base vs  a 7.5 coin base.

If they come too late you can do the next one.

Sloopy also missed out so I will run one more this month. then stop.

our  orders

[philipma1957]

our stats page on ck's pool

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6



here are the orders running:

[wmtomlinso]

Very easy to see our orders at Nice & West.  The only fixed orders at 350Th

Good lucK

[sloopy]

we are in... two orders at 350th

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6




{"hashrate1m": "675T", "hashrate5m": "584T", "hashrate1hr": "96.4T", "hashrate1d": "4.31T", "hashrate7d": "617G", "lastupdate": 1447477673, "workers": 7, "shares": 86943627, "bestshare": 1,297,482,164.1680741}

over 1 billion share!







each for 24 hours fixed at .0076

cost was 3 + 3 = 6 coins  

we have 1.5 coins left

we did 7.5 coins vs 8 coins

we are missing 5)BannedDK       .505  ---------------------   due

when we did these in spring/summer   we would let the missing guy join in a hour or so late as long as no blocks were hit.

So at:

 BannedDK if funds unlock in an hour or so you can send the .505 in we will go back to and 8 coins base vs  a 7.5 coin base.

If they come too late you can do the next one.

Sloopy also missed out so I will run one more this month. then stop.

our  orders

I was checking PMs Phil.
Was I supposed to post in this thread?
I must have misunderstood something, my apologies, but I did say I'd enjoy being in on any of these, anytime you run anything like this haha.
It is all great though and I hope you guys have a great run. Please let me know what I need to do on any future runs and I'm in for most anything like this with you.

Thanks for trying to work me in, it is very much appreciated.

[jxz]

Good luck to us all.


Thanks again phillip1957 for running this.

[BannedDK]

Hey guys

Guess im to Late now? Just woke up as it was getting late as i Said in my last post.

Am i still in or do i Need to wait for the next run?

Gonna sort the slush payout now

[Mercado]

Errrr guys?

Did you just find a block???
https://blockchain.info/blocks/Solo%20CKPool

If so, wow!
Any chances to join the club later on?

[EDIT] guess not... was wondering since the biggest share found on the address suddenly dropped and there was a CKsolo pool block found... Having fun keeping an eye on this

[page14]

Not, yet.
But the next one is definitely ours))

[Solare]

hopefully!

[philipma1957]

Hey guys

Guess im to Late now? Just woke up as it was getting late as i Said in my last post.

Am i still in or do i Need to wait for the next run?

Gonna sort the slush payout now

you can put in as long as we did not hit a block which so far we have not.

we still have coins to play 1.5  and time on the meter for the 700th  19 hours or so.

the math is easier if you put the .505 btc in we go back up to the 8 coins we planned on.  make sure to let us know asap.



{"hashrate1m": "694T", "hashrate5m": "690T", "hashrate1hr": "686T", "hashrate1d": "125T", "hashrate7d": "19.5T", "lastupdate": 1447493994, "workers": 7, "shares": 2780798241, "bestshare": 4,072,399,009.0212584}

just did a 4 bill share

[philipma1957]

Errrr guys?

Did you just find a block???
https://blockchain.info/blocks/Solo%20CKPool

If so, wow!
Any chances to join the club later on?

[EDIT] guess not... was wondering since the biggest share found on the address suddenly dropped and there was a CKsolo pool block found... Having fun keeping an eye on this

next game I will run 1 more this month.

[Solare]

Errrr guys?

Did you just find a block???
https://blockchain.info/blocks/Solo%20CKPool

If so, wow!
Any chances to join the club later on?

[EDIT] guess not... was wondering since the biggest share found on the address suddenly dropped and there was a CKsolo pool block found... Having fun keeping an eye on this

next game I will run 1 more this month.

Cool! thanks philip!

[Ziploc]

{"hashrate1m": "753T", "hashrate5m": "733T", "hashrate1hr": "716T", "hashrate1d": "189T", "hashrate7d": "30.8T", "lastupdate": 1447504015, "workers": 7, "shares": 4431668495, "bestshare": 57632365146.529419}

it's alive, it's alive

good luck to all

[jacobmayes94]

heres to a block

Jacob

[dtmcnamara]

bestshare: 57,632,365,146.529419  sooooooo close

[page14]

bestshare: 57,632,365,146.529419  sooooooo close

Damn...
We need, just a little bit more!!

[jacobmayes94]

reminds me of the tomb raider movie where the log is trying to pierce the urn and it goes so close... and then the illuminati guy goes 'nooooo' then it hits the next time (the part where they get the first triangle piece)

[Solare]

bestshare: 57,632,365,146.529419  sooooooo close

Damn...
We need, just a little bit more!!

Would be great if you guys explained why "getting close" shares" etc,
so the shares does matter? and how many share for this "mininglotto" would be needed?

[jacobmayes94]

no all it is how close the share submitted matched the network difficulty. The high share is utterly worthless and is just like any other share before it that doesn't solve a block but its that it was a share that came close to the 65 billion needed. When I rented hash I got a 7B share within a few seconds but never had one greater during the hours I rented it.

With EVERY hash generated and share submitted it either solves a block (So greater than 65billion) or doesn't solve a block (lower than 65 billion)

Jacob

[Solare]

no all it is how close the share submitted matched the network difficulty. The high share is utterly worthless and is just like any other share before it that doesn't solve a block but its that it was a share that came close to the 65 billion needed. When I rented hash I got a 7B share within a few seconds but never had one greater during the hours I rented it.

With EVERY hash generated and share submitted it either solves a block (So greater than 65billion) or doesn't solve a block (lower than 65 billion)

Jacob

Thanks!

So is there should be chance for this experiment to reach 65b?

[jacobmayes94]

yes with the hashrate. tbf even someone CPU mining could produce a 65B hash. With every block found the attempt to 'brute force' the block restarts with different work for the new one. We just have loads and loads of raffle tickets available! I would say its a raffle and lottery combo because there is more than one solution per block.


This is like 500TH for example, so 500 trillion attempts per second to solve, a CPU would be 100kH or similar for example, or 500Mh for a GPU or 333MH for some older block erupters. Someone pulled a 2 billion share from a USB stick miner at 5Gh/s.

Each attempt to solve the block is independent of the last, each 500 trillion attempts to solve the block is independent of the previous one. Akin to a roulette table or coin toss, each result is independent of the last. The S3 solver who was adamant he would solve one I did think the law of attraction played a role, but then again I am a big believer in the law of attraction. But I won't add philosophies to here because many would probably prefer hard data! You could power on a miner and solve it today, tomorrow, several months. In theory, the entire network could wait a year to solve one, in theory only. You may notice sometimes blocks get solved a couple of minutes apart, sometimes theres an hour or more between blocks. For that hour miners were still brute-forcing the same work.

Jacob

[JaredKaragen]

When you consider there could be a share worth 2^224 in the endgame...  "max target / n" or as it is now; 63B  doesn't seem like such a big number...

But there are SOOOOOOOOO many fewer chances to hit those higher shares.

I am surprised I regularly see 20M and 100+M shares on both my antminer U3 and my S3.  Must be a lucky address;  though I have yet to hit a block myself.


The raffle ticket analogy is great; aside from your number not being called.
But the problem is you don't know what number will be on your ticket till you get it.  And the number needs to only be equal or greater than a baseline number.

[madmartyk]

If you guys want some more hash, I can move my rentals onto your pool.
{"hashrate1m": "209T", "hashrate5m": "211T", "hashrate1hr": "208T", "hashrate1d": "89.4T", "hashrate7d": "16.4T", "lastupdate": 1447510735, "workers": 332, "shares": 2421917389, "bestshare": 380563939.74296552}

Have most of it for another 12 hours

[philipma1957]

If you guys want some more hash, I can move my rentals onto your pool.
{"hashrate1m": "209T", "hashrate5m": "211T", "hashrate1hr": "208T", "hashrate1d": "89.4T", "hashrate7d": "16.4T", "lastupdate": 1447510735, "workers": 332, "shares": 2421917389, "bestshare": 380563939.74296552}

Have most of it for another 12 hours

I do not think I can do the math on the value of your hash.

So if we hit I would not know what your share would be.

Maybe both of us will hit a block.

Separately

Good luck

[madmartyk]

If you guys want some more hash, I can move my rentals onto your pool.
{"hashrate1m": "209T", "hashrate5m": "211T", "hashrate1hr": "208T", "hashrate1d": "89.4T", "hashrate7d": "16.4T", "lastupdate": 1447510735, "workers": 332, "shares": 2421917389, "bestshare": 380563939.74296552}

Have most of it for another 12 hours

I do not think I can do the math on the value of your hash.

So if we hit I would not know what your share would be.

Maybe both of us will hit a block.

Separately

Good luck

Hoping!!!  I play the litecoin lottery every once in a while, done very well there!!  Never hit a BTC block.

[dtmcnamara]

my F5 button is going to stop woking with all this refreshing.....lol

[philipma1957]

my F5 button is going to stop woking with all this refreshing.....lol

We are going to hit two today!!

I can dream.

[philipma1957]

my F5 button is going to stop woking with all this refreshing.....lol

We are going to hit two today!!

I can dream.

+2

A quick update  we have 1.5 coins left.

@ BannedDk   please wait until next game.


the time on the current rentals is 13 hours  https://www.nicehash.com/?p=orders

fixed rentals end after 24 hours  so these will end close to 11pm tonight .

 I will buy replacement fixed 350th each but around 6 hours.

we will get about 29-30 hours of 350th at each site .

[dtmcnamara]

my F5 button is going to stop woking with all this refreshing.....lol

We are going to hit two today!!

I can dream.

+2

A quick update  we have 1.5 coins left.

@ BannedDk   please wait until next game.


the time on the current rentals is 13 hours  https://www.nicehash.com/?p=orders

fixed rentals end after 24 hours  so these will end close to 11pm tonight .

 I will buy replacement fixed 350th each but around 6 hours.

we will get about 29-30 hours of 350th at each site .

sounds good to me. fingers crossed

[PrivacyBTC]

Guys I have a point to discus , But plz philip dont understand me wrong , Its just a point

If we pay a fee to you to manage this rental, and you only create an fixed order then you go . anyone can do that

I think your main work is to rent @ best cheap price like 0.0071 or 0.0072 and monitor this order to ensure that it alive .

But you just create fixed order @ 0.0076 . we can save more and got about 2 extra hours if we rent @ 0.0072

My idea is to create fixed order @ 100 TH  AND create another standard order 600TH  @ 0.0071 and monitor it

[jxz]

Guys I have a point to discus , But plz philip dont understand me wrong , Its just a point

If we pay a fee to you to manage this rental, and you only create an fixed order then you go . anyone can do that

I think your main work is to rent @ best cheap price like 0.0071 or 0.0072 and monitor this order to ensure that it alive .

But you just create fixed order @ 0.0076 . we can save more and got about 2 extra hours if we rent @ 0.0072

My idea is to create fixed order @ 100 TH  AND create another standard order 600TH  @ 0.0071 and monitor it

His (very small) fee is justified by his reputation, not just the amount of work he puts in.  I'll gladly chip in 0.01 to know that if we hit I will get my reward.

[PrivacyBTC]

We can pay more if he accept to handle this

[Ziploc]

Guys I have a point to discus , But plz philip dont understand me wrong , Its just a point

If we pay a fee to you to manage this rental, and you only create an fixed order then you go . anyone can do that

I think your main work is to rent @ best cheap price like 0.0071 or 0.0072 and monitor this order to ensure that it alive .

But you just create fixed order @ 0.0076 . we can save more and got about 2 extra hours if we rent @ 0.0072

My idea is to create fixed order @ 100 TH  AND create another standard order 600TH  @ 0.0071 and monitor it

fee was discussed upfront...

fixed hash because of time....the difficulty is going up...

and managing the payments isn't easy.....specially with unequal shares...

[Ziploc]

anw there's some BTC left and I think he was supposed to try to rent something cheaper...


all this was hashed and rehashed if I can say it like that.....

if you didn't read before jumping in.....then what you want me to say.....

[Ziploc]

Guys I have a point to discus , But plz philip dont understand me wrong , Its just a point

If we pay a fee to you to manage this rental, and you only create an fixed order then you go . anyone can do that

I think your main work is to rent @ best cheap price like 0.0071 or 0.0072 and monitor this order to ensure that it alive .

But you just create fixed order @ 0.0076 . we can save more and got about 2 extra hours if we rent @ 0.0072

My idea is to create fixed order @ 100 TH  AND create another standard order 600TH  @ 0.0071 and monitor it

His (very small) fee is justified by his reputation, not just the amount of work he puts in.  I'll gladly chip in 0.01 to know that if we hit I will get my reward.

exactly it's not easy to find a person that you will trust with your BTC, not only ones you pay....

but also the ones that you win if we hit some blocks

[philipma1957]

We can pay more if he accept to handle this

 7.5 btc  - my .65 = 6.85 btc

fee was 1% or .0685 that is  20 bucks

so for 20 bucks  I give hours of labor and I safe guard 7.5btc so that it gets spent correctly on the hash.

If we win I send it out correctly.  

 Now you have a fair point about what is correct price for the easy service vs the price hunting service.

1% for what I agreed to do for this seems more then fair to me.  As 20 bucks for 2-3 hours of labor and fund safely managed  is low cost.

To hunt for cheap rentals and manage them is much more time consuming.  Bots suck at it compared to hands on scanning of all orders.

and nice-west hash changed the formats the change makes my work harder as it hides info that was available.  ie remaining time on all orders was viewable and is now hidden.

This reason is the single biggest reason I don't want to hunt for best price.  I could explain it in detail but simply put

 I could view the btc left on orders ahead of my orders and decide to stay put or go higher. This is now hidden to me and the rest of us.

It was not perfect info since a guy with 100th and .000002 btc left  could add more coin.  Still the info helped a lot when bargain hunting.

Also I resent that the pool op of nice/west hash  could view it and make decisions based on better info then anyone else.

When I manage my own rentals it is not a big factor as i go low and if out bid I wait.

 For our group waiting days if prices are high can be annoying.  I also find the constant decision making to confuse the partners.

right now the lowest order on nicehash is .0073  not .0071

see screen shot



  

[philipma1957]

the reason .0073 is the lowest not .0071 is a guy has  no limit at .0072    that will make the .0071 order go away.

if we go in at .0071 we get zip and wait

if we go in at .0072  we are under the  no limit guy and sit and wait.

if we do .0073  we start now.

BTW .0073 is  'odds in our favor'

When I would go for best price  I may do 20 orders each one has a tiny fee.  I may check 1000 times in 2 or 3 days.  And I may make the group wait 2 or 3 or 4 days with no hash running.  it is hard to do.

[philipma1957]

I would be willing to do a pair of  non fixed orders with  some of our remaining 1.5 btc

I could set it at .0071 and .0072  and hope that the no limit guy drops out  and gives us some cheaper hash.  



I could do 250th at .0071  .5 btc and it would sit

I could do 250th at .0072  .5 btc  and it would sit

we would have .5btc left over

It is possible rentals drop and we get some cheaper hash.

lets do some math on this.

pretend we do it and it works

.0071 would be 6.76 hours of hash time
.0072 would be 6.67 hours of hash time
.0076 would be 6.32 hours of hash time

[PrivacyBTC]

Next game we can increase ur fee . and anyway you have the Rights to do what you see good .

We hope to hit a block this night to resume this Allie .

[page14]

Let the luck be with us

[dtmcnamara]

we just crossed over the 10,000,000,000 shares point...best is still 57,632,365,146.529419

[Ziploc]

we just crossed over the 10,000,000,000 shares point...best is still 57,632,365,146.529419

I was wondering about that too....only 1 decent share but not good enough....


maybe we should stop and restart the rent, miners....maybe we will get another batch more lucky ?



Often if I'm not mistaking, people hit blocks right from the start or almost....

[philipma1957]

I am stopping both and switching to un fixed.

we now have 3.2483803 to mine with

make it 3.2483802  they hold .00000001

new order is #781515 at nice hash   price is .0072 not fixed  I did half  about 1.624




second new order is 781525 at west hash

370 th  price is .0073

[philipma1957]

and the work starts I am bumping the nice hash from .0072 to .0073 as someone has out bid us

so order 781515 at 370 th is now at .0073 on nice hash due to being out bid it dropped to 13 th and will take time to build to 370th.

the west hash order 781525 has jumped to 392th this does happen

[Ziploc]

I am stopping both and switching to un fixed.

we now have 3.2483803 to mine with

make it 3.2483802  they hold .00000001

new order is #781515 at nice hash   price is .0072 not fixed  I did half  about 1.624




second new order is 781525 at west hash

370 th  price is .0073

nice

I think our best miners from before were pulled out by 1,6Peta west hash order #781278....I was watching it for some time and thought if will stop at some point....

[Ziploc]

and the work starts I am bumping the nice hash from .0072 to .0073 as someone has out bid us

so order 781515 at 370 th is now at .0073 on nice hash due to being out bid it dropped to 13 th and will take time to build to 370th.

the west hash order 781525 has jumped to 392th this does happen

could it be that it's the opposite....I'm seeing 781525 running.....

[philipma1957]

and the work starts I am bumping the nice hash from .0072 to .0073 as someone has out bid us

so order 781515 at 370 th is now at .0073 on nice hash due to being out bid it dropped to 13 th and will take time to build to 370th.

the west hash order 781525 has jumped to 392th this does happen

could it be that it's the opposite....I'm seeing 781525 running.....

no i wrote order 78515 was out bid and dropping

and now a second high bid occurred so 781515  is zeroed out for now.

I also wrote 781525 is running well and just bit over 370.
I have some time right now so playing around with the two orders is fun  to do.

you can see why bots suck as they would have jumped me 2 or 3 times on the idle order . i did one jump vs 2 or 3

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6

still at a high of 57 billion

[Ziploc]

and the work starts I am bumping the nice hash from .0072 to .0073 as someone has out bid us

so order 781515 at 370 th is now at .0073 on nice hash due to being out bid it dropped to 13 th and will take time to build to 370th.

the west hash order 781525 has jumped to 392th this does happen

could it be that it's the opposite....I'm seeing 781525 running.....

no i wrote order 78515 was out bid and dropping

and now a second high bid occurred so 781515  is zeroed out for now.

I also wrote 781525 is running well and just bit over 370.
I have some time right now so playing around with the two orders is fun  to do.

you can see why bots suck as they would have jumped me 2 or 3 times on the idle order . i did one jump vs 2 or 3

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6

still at a high of 57 billion

ok 880TH now

{"hashrate1m": "880T", "hashrate5m": "716T", "hashrate1hr": "572T", "hashrate1d": "379T", "hashrate7d": "74.3T", "lastupdate": 1447545177, "workers": 9, "shares": 11066280591, "bestshare": 57632365146.529419}

[philipma1957]

and the work starts I am bumping the nice hash from .0072 to .0073 as someone has out bid us

so order 781515 at 370 th is now at .0073 on nice hash due to being out bid it dropped to 13 th and will take time to build to 370th.

the west hash order 781525 has jumped to 392th this does happen

could it be that it's the opposite....I'm seeing 781525 running.....

no i wrote order 78515 was out bid and dropping

and now a second high bid occurred so 781515  is zeroed out for now.

I also wrote 781525 is running well and just bit over 370.
I have some time right now so playing around with the two orders is fun  to do.

you can see why bots suck as they would have jumped me 2 or 3 times on the idle order . i did one jump vs 2 or 3

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6

still at a high of 57 billion

ok 880TH now

{"hashrate1m": "880T", "hashrate5m": "716T", "hashrate1hr": "572T", "hashrate1d": "379T", "hashrate7d": "74.3T", "lastupdate": 1447545177, "workers": 9, "shares": 11066280591, "bestshare": 57632365146.529419}

yeah we don't have control when overhash occurs other then cancel the order.

over hash is not so bad under hash is not so bad.  lost hash is bad.  wait for screen shot  I can show what i mean.
at this spot we are losing hash

[philipma1957]

to follow up on lost hash you sometimes get free hash

a shot of free hash

[philipma1957]

lastly the overall performance for the whole order

this order at this point in time has given us +4.6%   really good.

[philipma1957]

the unfixed orders have way more change on these stats then fixed.

So sometimes if I have a dog order say -5%  or -10% I cancel the order or maybe drop from 370th to 5th then go back and boost to 370th.

translation a lot of work and time but on 7.5btc you could save 10% on a dog order or gain 5% on a good order.

[dtmcnamara]

this order at this point in time has given us +4.6%   really good.

not bad at all

[philipma1957]

this order at this point in time has given us +4.6%   really good.

not bad at all

i went and checked again

westhash is   + 2.41%------------------- I leave well enough alone

nice hash is   -0.56% ------------------- I only worry at -10%

net for all 740th since we switched is 1%.




and we also are paying .0073 vs .0076 which is 3 percent  

so in terms of improvement in cost we gained 4%.

was it smart  to do this well if we hit a block it is good and we have a profit. won't know if the other way would have made 2 blocks but we still did a profit who cares.


 if we don't we will never know if staying pat until the fixed order ran down to zero then spend the 1.5 on a second fixed would have been better.  or if no matter what we did we simply would not of hit a block.

[philipma1957]

now comes a new choice if I look at the westhash order #781525 I am paying .0073  there is finally enough cushion under me to drop to .0072 and not zero out for being too low.

So should I do it.  well .0072 is cheaper then .0073  so a bot would do it.

I have a second factor to look at at the .0073 level I am getting extra hash I look and it is at +1.82%

that 1.82% is more savings then dropping from .0073 to .0072 which is 1.389%

so I stand pat .

and review in 5 minutes or so.


screen shots for above

[Ziploc]

I can't see any screen shots....

something is wrong on my side i think...

ok it's working now

[philipma1957]

ck was toying with his pool trying to give china a good port

our west hash order dropped its free hash of +2%  do not know how long it will stay down so I figure I may as well drop our price on the westhash to .0072 vs .0073

[philipma1957]

@ ziploc this can happen sometime

here are two more of the westhash now dropped from .0073 to .0072

still getting +hash




with lower price!

[Ziploc]

That's good...


now we just need to find some blocks

[dtmcnamara]

That's good...


now we just need to find some blocks

[jxz]

philipma1957 - thanks for doing this, and I'm ok with however you choose to manage the order.


That being said, don't concentrate too much on the +/- speed that nicehash shows.  Only the speed paying really matters.  The +/- percentages result from the estimations based on the different diff levels between miners<->nicehash and nicehash<->solo.ck.

The difference between the two numbers should approach zero as time goes on.

[philipma1957]

philipma1957 - thanks for doing this, and I'm ok with however you choose to manage the order.


That being said, don't concentrate too much on the +/- speed that nicehash shows.  Only the speed paying really matters.  The +/- percentages result from the estimations based on the different diff levels between miners<->nicehash and nicehash<->solo.ck.

The difference between the two numbers should approach zero as time goes on.

the long term seldom goes negative but it can and has during ddos attacks

[philipma1957]

no changes for now we have about  8 hours on each one.

we gained an hour of hash time making the switch from  .0076 fixed to .0072-.0073 not fixed.


good luck to us.

[sloopy]

All excellent information for anyone who rents hash and chases the variable orders.

Thanks for sharing.

[-ck]

ck was toying with his pool trying to give china a good port

This wouldn't have affected the main pool at all. Solo has been running uninterrupted.

[page14]

Oh my God.
"bestshare": 62247233328.784958

A month ago, this couldve been a block.

Thats so close...

[jacobmayes94]

are we still running? so so close!

[Solare]

Seems it´s still running? 62B wow

Question: as it seems we are very close to meet the network difficulty,
would it be more chance if the TH is higher with little less minutes or?

[jacobmayes94]

more chance but someone hit a block with his S3 with a 61B share at 0.45TH in two weeks. less than 1/500th of what we have. A lot of it is luck and destiny lol. We have a much higher 'chance' but lets see what the block gods have in store Our share was close, but that is the 'best share. All our other shares since could be 1,000 or 1m for all we know.

Jacob

[philipma1957]

Just woke up  I saw the 62 bill share oh well.

here is the little bit of good news.

the 1 hour on one and the 23 minutes on the other are extra time due to switching from fixed to manual.

so if we hit it will be due to the switch.

we pulled a 57 bill and a 62  bill if it was sept 4th we would have hit for  2 blocks.

[Ziploc]

Oh my God.
"bestshare": 62247233328.784958

A month ago, this couldve been a block.

Thats so close...

I woke up and saw that too.....
{"hashrate1m": "724T", "hashrate5m": "737T", "hashrate1hr": "735T", "hashrate1d": "533T", "hashrate7d": "125T", "lastupdate": 1447592999, "workers": 9, "shares": 19311530007, "bestshare": 62247233328.784958}

almost....

[Ziploc]

Just woke up  I saw the 62 bill share oh well.

here is the little bit of good news.

the 1 hour on one and the 23 minutes on the other are extra time due to switching from fixed to manual.

so if we hit it will be due to the switch.

we pulled a 57 bill and a 62  bill if it was sept 4th we would have hit for  2 blocks.

that what I meant by difficulty increase....every time it jumps...it's getting harder and harder to hit a block...

[Ziploc]

I think 1st order is dead....

I lost count......do we still have some remaining BTC or it's almost done   ?

[philipma1957]

Just woke up  I saw the 62 bill share oh well.

here is the little bit of good news.

the 1 hour on one and the 23 minutes on the other are extra time due to switching from fixed to manual.

so if we hit it will be due to the switch.

we pulled a 57 bill and a 62  bill if it was sept 4th we would have hit for  2 blocks.

that what I meant by difficulty increase....every time it jumps...it's getting harder and harder to hit a block...

true but the rental price does go down to help compensate a bit.

we are now left with 40 minutes on the nicehash order the west hash is done.  .

here is what was spent on the 2 westhash orders:

a little over 3.78 btc

[Ziploc]

here is what was spent on the 2 westhash orders:

a little over 3.78 btc

we had a total of 8.0735 coins    Yes ?
then minus 3.78

we should still have 4.29BTC left ? is that correct ?

[philipma1957]

here is what was spent on the 2 westhash orders:

a little over 3.78 btc

we had a total of 8.0735 coins    Yes ?
then minus 3.78

we should still have 4.29BTC left ? is that correct ?

no we had 7.5 coins plus my fee of 1 % as 1 person did not join in time.

The total above is what we spent on west hash 2 order.

Since nice hash  has not finished I have not place the totals spent in a few minutes you will get that number.
here it is

3.76 for nicehash

[Ziploc]

here is what was spent on the 2 westhash orders:

a little over 3.78 btc

we had a total of 8.0735 coins    Yes ?
then minus 3.78

we should still have 4.29BTC left ? is that correct ?

no we had 7.5 coins plus my fee of 1 % as 1 person did not join in time.

The total above is what we spent on west hash 2 order.

Since nice hash  has not finished I have not place the totals spent in a few minutes you will get that number.
here it is

3.76 for nicehash

ok can be more specific ?

after this order ends....it's all done or we still have some BTC left ? if yes how much ?

I'm asking because if there's some left we will have to decide what we do....more hash and less time OR less hash and more time

[philipma1957]

 A grand total of 3.78 + 3.76 =   7.54  spent on four orders

2 fixed >>>> we ended early as the screenshot show

2 manual >>>> we ran to the end.



     I spent extra from my fees of 0.0685 which is why we went over the 7.5 we collected.

[Ziploc]

A grand total of 3.78 + 3.76 =   7.54  spent on four orders

2 fixed >>>> we ended early as the screenshot show

2 manual >>>> we ran to the end.



     I spent extra from my fees of 0.0685 which is why we went over the 7.5 we collected.

ok then it's all done, thx for managing this

[philipma1957]

Yeah we were close to a nice score.  2 blocks would have been nice.

I may do this after Thanksgiving.

But I will take a break from this for now.

[Ziploc]

Yeah we were close to a nice score.  2 blocks would have been nice.

I may do this after Thanksgiving.

But I will take a break from this for now.

yeah you can't always win

It was a great experience.

[PrivacyBTC]

So It's Over!!  

I will try to give a push

Until this block resolved

Order created: #783941

Thanks Philip for your hard work

We are appreciate this .

[Ziploc]

So It's Over!!  

I will try to give a push

Until this block resolved

Order created: #783941

Thanks Philip for your hard work

We are appreciate this .

good luck to you

[dtmcnamara]

Let me know when the next one happens, ill more than likely join.

[philipma1957]

So It's Over!!  

I will try to give a push

Until this block resolved

Order created: #783941

Thanks Philip for your hard work

We are appreciate this .

nice of you.  I assume you want it to include all of us if it hits?  It is your money/coin your choice.


 http://solo.ckpool.org/users/164o6jGhpciHC8Lg4XiXyprKfrqZK3tST6

[PrivacyBTC]

No No No

Its for us all normally

I just want to save that bestshare until next cycle

[Ziploc]

No No No

Its for us all normally

I just want to save that bestshare until next cycle

Cool


I would laugh my face of if it hits....@30TH
while we were running close to 750-800 for 35 hrs....