New Terrorists attacks in Paris and a note on who didn't do them.

[spike420211]

U guys are aware that:
>Sharia law forbids gambling
>The arab world DOES NOT wanna replace petrodollars w/ BTC's
?

Just friggin' nuke Mecca already. JFC.

[1714772734]

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[Spendulus]

http://news.yahoo.com/paris-attacked-police-hunt-accomplices-065411619.html

An interesting comment there, posted about 3 hours ago, if someone cares to scroll through them all:

I have known for months that something like this was in the making. These events were almost certainly organized and/or provocateured by one or more intelligence agencies.....
This whole program of endless war, profiteering and plunder goes directly back to the mother of all false flag operations - 9/11. ....

And there we go, more conspiracy theories....

[Wilikon]

'Just wait…' Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of extremists into Europe


AN OPERATIVE working for Islamic State has revealed the terror group has successfully smuggled thousands of covert jihadists into Europe.


The Syrian operative claimed more than 4,000 covert ISIS gunmen had been smuggled into western nations – hidden amongst innocent refugees.

The ISIS smuggler, who is in his thirties and is described as having a trimmed jet-black beard, revealed the ongoing clandestine operation is a complete success.

"Just wait," he smiled.

The Islamic State operative spoke exclusively to BuzzFeed on the condition of anonymity and is believed to be the first to confirm plans to infiltrate western countries.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees


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Troy. Euro scale.

[galdur]

http://news.yahoo.com/paris-attacked-police-hunt-accomplices-065411619.html

An interesting comment there, posted about 3 hours ago, if someone cares to scroll through them all:

I have known for months that something like this was in the making. These events were almost certainly organized and/or provocateured by one or more intelligence agencies.....
This whole program of endless war, profiteering and plunder goes directly back to the mother of all false flag operations - 9/11. ....

And there we go, more conspiracy theories....

There is a conspiracy, no doubt about that, they didn´t appear there in Paris randomly. The official conspiracy theory so far seems to be that they are members of ISIS and conspired with others higher up there to carry out the attack. Pretty simple and straightforward. It may be so, I don´t know. It is true that usually these terrorist organizations are infiltrated by intelligence services. Much of the ISIS personnel in the Middle East is from France and Britain and other European countries. And actually from countries all over the world, the U.S. included.  It can go both ways; intelligence agents can go with others to the Middle East, terrorists can go with refugees back to Europe. There can be many possibilities. Who benefits? is usually the key question that those who prepare official conspiracy theories take care to avoid. Someone funds these operations the purpose is some kind of gain I presume.

[galdur]

Dead men tell no tales. This guy that they call so affectionately Jihadi John, perhaps beause he´s a buddy of theirs, was maybe killed the other day in Syria. A British citizen. They say he may be dead but U.S. officials say that they may never know for sure. Until in a few months when he pops up again. Maybe.  

[Nemo1024]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

My heart goes out to anyone who lost a family member in these horrific attacks, it does, but once again, history tells us to keep a watchful eye over what happens next. With details still sketchy at best, and the number of dead or injured being very fluid, one number I noticed in the video below was not fluid: President Hollande declared a state of emergency and mobilized 1,500 troops to patrol Paris streets. In the video, you’ll see an article that says “officials“ have the right to perform searches, and “military justice” may be enacted. I assume that means citizens can get ventilated if they aren’t fully cooperative, no questions asked… but who knows? Also in one article, Obama promises to do “whatever it takes” to bring the terrorists to justice. Hmmmm.

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1.) How many gunmen? Already, the number of individuals involved in the Paris attacks is in question. While some reports suggested four shooters were involved, others suggested three. The majority of mainstream reports seem to be only acknowledging two shooters. So how many shooters were there? Two, three or four? One witness, Pierre Marie Bertin, a 36-year-old who was at the theater when the shooting began, stated that there were as many as four gunmen. Bertin described some male hostages who “went onto the balcony and tried to negotiate for the life of their wives with one of the guys [terrorists]. It was sickening.” Bertin recounted somewhat more detail than some other witnesses and was clear that there were as many as four gunmen. Australian news media is reporting that three gunmen have been killed.

This might seem inconsequential to many readers, but, in informed researching circles, it is well-known that the information that comes out shortly after the event is usually the most reliable. This is not to discount the existence of confusion related to panicked reports coming from eyewitnesses and the like. However, the information coming out early on has not yet been subjected to the top-down media revision that will inevitably take place as the story becomes molded to fit the narrative pushed by the individuals who either directed the attack at the higher levels or at least have connections with those who are able to control the manner in which various media outlets report the event. For instance, in times of false flag attacks, the initial reports may point to 5 gunmen. Very shortly after, reports may only mention two. Only a few hours after the attack, however, all references to more than one gunmen are removed entirely, with only the “lone gunman” story remaining. Any other mention of additional gunmen after this point is ridiculed as “conspiracy theory.”

2.) The types of weapons used – While some reports suggest that the attackers were using AK-47s, other reports are suggesting that shotguns were used. While the contradiction in reports can certainly be attributed to victims and witnesses simply not being aware of the type of weapons being used in the attacks and panic in the heat of the moment, there is none the less contradiction in the reports being issued. As of the time of the writing of this article there has been no clarification as to what type of weapons were used. Since the assailants were supposedly killed by police it should be clear what weapons they used.

3.) Were the gunmen killed or arrested? While the number of gunmen itself is in doubt, news reports coming from Fox and Sky are suggesting that a suspected gunmen was actually arrested. In fact, the suspect allegedly stated to police, “I am from ISIS” giving us all the information we need as for who is responsible for this attack.

4.) Gunmen connected to ISIS, gunmen connected to Syria – Along with the very convenient and immediate statement by an allegedly arrested suspect that he was from ISIS, we also have screams of a shooter that “This is for Syria!” This gives us all the information that we need regarding the motivation of the alleged attackers. They are from ISIS. They hate the French because the French are “attacking” ISIS and because somewhere in France in a very darkened corner, under the sofa, there are freedoms. ISIS hates freedoms. This is quite coincidental considering the fact that a Russian airliner was recently bombed, allegedly by ISIS – at least according to the West.

5.) The timing of the event – Aside from the obvious connotations derived from the attacks occurring on Friday the 13th, the Paris massacre has taken place shortly before a major climate summit that was set to take place in France. The French government was expecting massive protests they alleged could potentially become violent, by activists opposed to globalization and energy austerity. Interestingly enough, France had already planned to impose border controls starting on November 30th in anticipation of the U.N. Conference on Climate Change in Paris “because of the terrorist threat or risk of public disorder.” Needless to say, there will be no massive protest now considering the fact that 2015 France resembles the 1943 version of itself more than anything else.

6.) Security – Considering the fact that the security had been so heightened both on the heels of the Charlie Hebdo attacks and the anticipation of disorder for the U.N. Conference on Climate Change, how on earth did such a major terror attack slip through the hands of the DGSE? After all, France is nothing if not a police state. It is also giving the United States a run for its money in the contest for how much information it is able to nab up on its citizens. No doubt, we will be sold the line of “pre-civilized savages outsmarted first-world high end military surveillance states.”

7.) Drills – One hallmark of the false flag operation is the running of drills shortly before or during the actual attack. Many times, these drills will involve the actual sequence of events that takes place during the real life attack . These drills have been present on large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.

For instance, as Webster Tarpley documents in his book 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made In USA, at least 46 drills were underway in the months leading up to 9/11 and on the morning of the attack. These 46 drills were all directly related to the events which took place on 9/11 in some way or other. Likewise, the 7/7 bombings in London were running drills of exactly the same scenario that was occurring at exactly the same times and locations.

Although one reason may take precedence over the other depending on the nature and purpose of the operation drills are used by false flag operators for at least two reasons. One such purpose is the creation of intentional confusion if the drill is taking place during the actual attack. The other, more effective aspect, however, is using the drill as a cloak to plan the attack or even “go live” when it comes time to launch the event. Even more so, it gives the individuals who are involved in the planning of the event an element of cover, especially with the military/intelligence agency’s tight chain of command structure and need-to-know basis. If a loyal military officer or intelligence agent stumbles upon the planning of the attack, that individual can always be told that what he has witnessed is nothing more than the planning of a training exercise. This deniability continues all the way through to the actual “going live” of the drill. After the completion of the false flag attack, Coincidence Theory is used to explain away the tragic results.

All of this must be considered, when one reads reports suggesting that the UK conducted counter-terrorism drills earlier this year that included scenarios that involved terror attacks in Paris similar to those that took place on the Charlie Hebdo massacre. As the reports surrounding the UK drills were released, a number 10 spokesman confirmed “it had been agreed that future exercises, which take place on a regular basis, should seek to learn from events in France.” David Cameron himself stated that there was  a need for police “to call on military help if there was a major emergency.”

8.) Charlie Hebdo – The recent Paris attacks were similar to the Charlie Hebdo massacre that occurred earlier this year. The Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation. Evidence for which can be seen in my article “15 Signs the Charlie Hebdo Attack Was a False Flag.” Thus, there exists a clear precedent for such attacks in France, albeit on a much larger scale

9.) Who controls ISIS? For many, claims that the attackers belong to ISIS is a deal breaker. For these individuals, ISIS is a shadowy terrorist organization that supports itself and has created a caliphate in eastern Syria and western Iraq that can scarcely be defeated (except when the Russians bomb it). However, the facts do not support such a shallow understanding of the ISIS terrorist organization. ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus for geopolitical purposes all across the world both at home and abroad. For this reason, the declaration that ISIS committed a terrorist attack in Paris is by no means a get-out-of-jail-free card for the western Intelligence apparatus. Instead, it is the trademark of their handiwork. Please see these articles for more information on the nature of ISIS: here, here, here and here.

Also.

http://goldenageofgaia.com/2015/11/14/wikipedia-full-coverage-paris-massacre-less-two-hours-event/

The massacre in Paris is reported to have occurred at 21:16 CET.

By 23:06 Wikipedia had an article up that is extremely detailed, containing statements from a former French President and a complete outline of events at several locations, matters that the press I read had not by then reported.

It piqued my interest that an article would be up on Wikipedia within two hours of the event happening. So I went there.

I began reading the current version of the article and then decided to read a much earlier version. I chose the 23:18 version for this article, not overly consciously. At that point I did not understand very much.

By the time I got myself organized here, I saw that the earliest versions of the article had just been erased from Wikipedia’s change record. Everything before 00:00 was erased from the record, preventing access to the originals of the story. That aroused my suspicions immediately.

(That list of deleted versions was gotten again by going to the user page of the person who wrote the article, known only by his number 82.45.236.70. The list appeared there and the articles proved linkable and recoverable. You can reach them, until they’re taken down, by clicking on the list given in Footnote 1.)

(Thanks to the reader who identified the IP address (82.45.236.70) as belonging to a block of addresses assigned to VirginMedia Consumer Broadband UK.)

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[galdur]

Yeah yeah, the Ministry of Truth is always at the ready. 

[Spendulus]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!

[galdur]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!

Give it a rest.It isn´t working anymore. People have seen too many lies and scams from officialdom.

[BTCBinary]

it's unforgiveable. more than 100 inocent people lost their lives. It was set up by Islamic state fundamentalists, and they need to be stopped!

[galdur]

it's unforgiveable. more than 100 inocent people lost their lives. It was set up by Islamic state fundamentalists, and they need to be stopped!

It´s a little late now. They´ve had years to carve out their own country in the ruins of Iraq and Syria. And western powers created the perfect environment for them  in Lybia where they are  entrenched as well.

[Spendulus]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!

Give it a rest.It isn´t working anymore. People have seen too many lies and scams from officialdom.

No.  I'm not even opposed to conspiracy theories.  I'm only opposed to asserting them without any proof or even without any evidence.   As is being done here.

[awesome31312]

I have a feeling that the backlash of these attacks will be so intense, that Muslims will not be able to show up on the streets of Paris without wearing a vest made out of Syrian/Saudi Arabian passport paper material

[vero]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

My heart goes out to anyone who lost a family member in these horrific attacks, it does, but once again, history tells us to keep a watchful eye over what happens next. With details still sketchy at best, and the number of dead or injured being very fluid, one number I noticed in the video below was not fluid: President Hollande declared a state of emergency and mobilized 1,500 troops to patrol Paris streets. In the video, you’ll see an article that says “officials“ have the right to perform searches, and “military justice” may be enacted. I assume that means citizens can get ventilated if they aren’t fully cooperative, no questions asked… but who knows? Also in one article, Obama promises to do “whatever it takes” to bring the terrorists to justice. Hmmmm.

...

1.) How many gunmen? Already, the number of individuals involved in the Paris attacks is in question. While some reports suggested four shooters were involved, others suggested three. The majority of mainstream reports seem to be only acknowledging two shooters. So how many shooters were there? Two, three or four? One witness, Pierre Marie Bertin, a 36-year-old who was at the theater when the shooting began, stated that there were as many as four gunmen. Bertin described some male hostages who “went onto the balcony and tried to negotiate for the life of their wives with one of the guys [terrorists]. It was sickening.” Bertin recounted somewhat more detail than some other witnesses and was clear that there were as many as four gunmen. Australian news media is reporting that three gunmen have been killed.

This might seem inconsequential to many readers, but, in informed researching circles, it is well-known that the information that comes out shortly after the event is usually the most reliable. This is not to discount the existence of confusion related to panicked reports coming from eyewitnesses and the like. However, the information coming out early on has not yet been subjected to the top-down media revision that will inevitably take place as the story becomes molded to fit the narrative pushed by the individuals who either directed the attack at the higher levels or at least have connections with those who are able to control the manner in which various media outlets report the event. For instance, in times of false flag attacks, the initial reports may point to 5 gunmen. Very shortly after, reports may only mention two. Only a few hours after the attack, however, all references to more than one gunmen are removed entirely, with only the “lone gunman” story remaining. Any other mention of additional gunmen after this point is ridiculed as “conspiracy theory.”

2.) The types of weapons used – While some reports suggest that the attackers were using AK-47s, other reports are suggesting that shotguns were used. While the contradiction in reports can certainly be attributed to victims and witnesses simply not being aware of the type of weapons being used in the attacks and panic in the heat of the moment, there is none the less contradiction in the reports being issued. As of the time of the writing of this article there has been no clarification as to what type of weapons were used. Since the assailants were supposedly killed by police it should be clear what weapons they used.

3.) Were the gunmen killed or arrested? While the number of gunmen itself is in doubt, news reports coming from Fox and Sky are suggesting that a suspected gunmen was actually arrested. In fact, the suspect allegedly stated to police, “I am from ISIS” giving us all the information we need as for who is responsible for this attack.

4.) Gunmen connected to ISIS, gunmen connected to Syria – Along with the very convenient and immediate statement by an allegedly arrested suspect that he was from ISIS, we also have screams of a shooter that “This is for Syria!” This gives us all the information that we need regarding the motivation of the alleged attackers. They are from ISIS. They hate the French because the French are “attacking” ISIS and because somewhere in France in a very darkened corner, under the sofa, there are freedoms. ISIS hates freedoms. This is quite coincidental considering the fact that a Russian airliner was recently bombed, allegedly by ISIS – at least according to the West.

5.) The timing of the event – Aside from the obvious connotations derived from the attacks occurring on Friday the 13th, the Paris massacre has taken place shortly before a major climate summit that was set to take place in France. The French government was expecting massive protests they alleged could potentially become violent, by activists opposed to globalization and energy austerity. Interestingly enough, France had already planned to impose border controls starting on November 30th in anticipation of the U.N. Conference on Climate Change in Paris “because of the terrorist threat or risk of public disorder.” Needless to say, there will be no massive protest now considering the fact that 2015 France resembles the 1943 version of itself more than anything else.

6.) Security – Considering the fact that the security had been so heightened both on the heels of the Charlie Hebdo attacks and the anticipation of disorder for the U.N. Conference on Climate Change, how on earth did such a major terror attack slip through the hands of the DGSE? After all, France is nothing if not a police state. It is also giving the United States a run for its money in the contest for how much information it is able to nab up on its citizens. No doubt, we will be sold the line of “pre-civilized savages outsmarted first-world high end military surveillance states.”

7.) Drills – One hallmark of the false flag operation is the running of drills shortly before or during the actual attack. Many times, these drills will involve the actual sequence of events that takes place during the real life attack . These drills have been present on large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.

For instance, as Webster Tarpley documents in his book 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made In USA, at least 46 drills were underway in the months leading up to 9/11 and on the morning of the attack. These 46 drills were all directly related to the events which took place on 9/11 in some way or other. Likewise, the 7/7 bombings in London were running drills of exactly the same scenario that was occurring at exactly the same times and locations.

Although one reason may take precedence over the other depending on the nature and purpose of the operation drills are used by false flag operators for at least two reasons. One such purpose is the creation of intentional confusion if the drill is taking place during the actual attack. The other, more effective aspect, however, is using the drill as a cloak to plan the attack or even “go live” when it comes time to launch the event. Even more so, it gives the individuals who are involved in the planning of the event an element of cover, especially with the military/intelligence agency’s tight chain of command structure and need-to-know basis. If a loyal military officer or intelligence agent stumbles upon the planning of the attack, that individual can always be told that what he has witnessed is nothing more than the planning of a training exercise. This deniability continues all the way through to the actual “going live” of the drill. After the completion of the false flag attack, Coincidence Theory is used to explain away the tragic results.

All of this must be considered, when one reads reports suggesting that the UK conducted counter-terrorism drills earlier this year that included scenarios that involved terror attacks in Paris similar to those that took place on the Charlie Hebdo massacre. As the reports surrounding the UK drills were released, a number 10 spokesman confirmed “it had been agreed that future exercises, which take place on a regular basis, should seek to learn from events in France.” David Cameron himself stated that there was  a need for police “to call on military help if there was a major emergency.”

8.) Charlie Hebdo – The recent Paris attacks were similar to the Charlie Hebdo massacre that occurred earlier this year. The Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation. Evidence for which can be seen in my article “15 Signs the Charlie Hebdo Attack Was a False Flag.” Thus, there exists a clear precedent for such attacks in France, albeit on a much larger scale

9.) Who controls ISIS? For many, claims that the attackers belong to ISIS is a deal breaker. For these individuals, ISIS is a shadowy terrorist organization that supports itself and has created a caliphate in eastern Syria and western Iraq that can scarcely be defeated (except when the Russians bomb it). However, the facts do not support such a shallow understanding of the ISIS terrorist organization. ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus for geopolitical purposes all across the world both at home and abroad. For this reason, the declaration that ISIS committed a terrorist attack in Paris is by no means a get-out-of-jail-free card for the western Intelligence apparatus. Instead, it is the trademark of their handiwork. Please see these articles for more information on the nature of ISIS: here, here, here and here.

Also.

http://goldenageofgaia.com/2015/11/14/wikipedia-full-coverage-paris-massacre-less-two-hours-event/

The massacre in Paris is reported to have occurred at 21:16 CET.

By 23:06 Wikipedia had an article up that is extremely detailed, containing statements from a former French President and a complete outline of events at several locations, matters that the press I read had not by then reported.

It piqued my interest that an article would be up on Wikipedia within two hours of the event happening. So I went there.

I began reading the current version of the article and then decided to read a much earlier version. I chose the 23:18 version for this article, not overly consciously. At that point I did not understand very much.

By the time I got myself organized here, I saw that the earliest versions of the article had just been erased from Wikipedia’s change record. Everything before 00:00 was erased from the record, preventing access to the originals of the story. That aroused my suspicions immediately.

(That list of deleted versions was gotten again by going to the user page of the person who wrote the article, known only by his number 82.45.236.70. The list appeared there and the articles proved linkable and recoverable. You can reach them, until they’re taken down, by clicking on the list given in Footnote 1.)

(Thanks to the reader who identified the IP address (82.45.236.70) as belonging to a block of addresses assigned to VirginMedia Consumer Broadband UK.)

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The short-term answer must be a violent one: We and our allies must do whatever it takes to reduce the ability of ISIS, al-Qaeda, etc., to hurt us. In the long run, however, we must focus on giving young people in the Middle East (and those who now live in the West) something to do other than to kill us. The median age in Egypt is something like 24. In Syria it is 21. In the Gaza strip, it is 17. The only thing those young people are being trained for now is to kill Israelis and westerners. We have to find a way to give them something better than what they are now getting from ISIS, Hamas, etc. If we don't we will all be living in a world like those in Paris have today.

[galdur]

The short-term answer must be a violent one: We and our allies must do whatever it takes to reduce the ability of ISIS, al-Qaeda, etc., to hurt us. In the long run, however, we must focus on giving young people in the Middle East (and those who now live in the West) something to do other than to kill us. The median age in Egypt is something like 24. In Syria it is 21. In the Gaza strip, it is 17. The only thing those young people are being trained for now is to kill Israelis and westerners. We have to find a way to give them something better than what they are now getting from ISIS, Hamas, etc. If we don't we will all be living in a world like those in Paris have today.

All right, all that 70 million young people are being trained for is killing Israelis and Westerners. Sure. Are you ####### out of your mind??

[Nemo1024]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!

Give it a rest.It isn´t working anymore. People have seen too many lies and scams from officialdom.

No.  I'm not even opposed to conspiracy theories.  I'm only opposed to asserting them without any proof or even without any evidence.   As is being done here.

The evidence for 9/11 as a false flag has been laid out many times and from various angles.
ISIS as USNATO-funded organisation. Well, can you explain how ISIS is being able to sell oil on the cheap through Turkey (a NATO member) and the oil infrastructure used by ISIS is still intact, why US air force was so ineffectual in combating ISIS and why most of the hardware in possession of ISIS is USNATO supplied (Toyota-trucks come to mind for one). At best USNATO supports ISIS indirectly by looking the other way, at worst, by funding and training them (here comes the Congress hearing about the "opposition" trained by US instructors, that mysteriously went to serve ISIS after that)

The above article outlines several common markers - common for the previous known and suspected false flags operations (like implicating passports so conveniently being dropped). Yes, it's a theory, in the scientific sense, with more proof being accumulated to either support or debunk it.

[Balthazar]

Well, can you explain how ISIS is being able to sell oil on the cheap through Turkey (a NATO member) and the oil infrastructure used by ISIS is still intact

[galdur]

Well, can you explain how ISIS is being able to sell oil on the cheap through Turkey (a NATO member) and the oil infrastructure used by ISIS is still intact

Yeah, and his sister runs a medical facility getting wounded ISIS terrorists back on their feet. This shit is rotten to the core. Those murky terrorist connections here and there always are.

[galdur]

This al-Baghdadi guy the head honcho of ISIS was in U.S. custody in Iraq from 2005 to 2009. So was the head of the ISIS branch in Lybia that is trying to take over the ruins that NATO prepared for them there. The U.S. say they may have killed him the other day. Not sure if it´s the first time though.

It´s declassified material. I guess it was declassified after someone leaked it.

Before going to Libya, Zubaidi was a senior Islamic State operative in Iraq. Like Baghdadi, he spent time in a U.S. prison in Iraq after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-officials-leader-of-islamic-state-in-libya-believed-killed-in-us-airstrike/2015/11/14/b42cb714-8af0-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html

[Spendulus]

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/9-reasons-the-terrorist-attacks-in-paris-could-be-a-false-flag-event-2756906.html

...false flag attacks....

the false flag operation....

large scale false flags such as 9/11 as well as smaller scale attacks like the Aurora shooting.....

Charlie Hebdo attacks, however, were largely revealed as a false flag operation.....

ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus

Wheeee!!!!

Here come the Conspiracy Theories!

Give it a rest.It isn´t working anymore. People have seen too many lies and scams from officialdom.

No.  I'm not even opposed to conspiracy theories.  I'm only opposed to asserting them without any proof or even without any evidence.   As is being done here.

The evidence for 9/11 as a false flag has been laid out many times and from various angles.
ISIS as USNATO-funded organisation. Well, can you explain how ISIS is being able to sell oil on the cheap through Turkey (a NATO member) and the oil infrastructure used by ISIS is still intact, why US air force was so ineffectual in combating ISIS and why most of the hardware in possession of ISIS is USNATO supplied (Toyota-trucks come to mind for one). At best USNATO supports ISIS indirectly by looking the other way, at worst, by funding and training them (here comes the Congress hearing about the "opposition" trained by US instructors, that mysteriously went to serve ISIS after that)

The above article outlines several common markers - common for the previous known and suspected false flags operations (like implicating passports so conveniently being dropped). Yes, it's a theory, in the scientific sense, with more proof being accumulated to either support or debunk it.

Because they offer oil for sale, and people buy it? 

Because there are limits to what air power can do?

Because there were USNATO hardware on the ground that they took away from others?

You see, I don't need a Grand Theory to explain people acting in their own perceived best interest.