New Terrorists attacks in Paris and a note on who didn't do them.

[HarryKPeters]

149 and counting...
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972

Let's hope the G20  will take drastic measures now. IS is not an Asian problem, but a world wide...

#prayforparis

[galdur]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

[HarryKPeters]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

[galdur]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

That´s good and even better would be to deal with the root. Stabilize countries that have been destroyed and refrain from destroying more of them. Also stopping kissing the asses of Saudi medieval princes and their friends and allies here and there that fund and support these ISIS terrorists

might very well be useful.

[Spendulus]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

That´s good and even better would be to deal with the root. Stabilize countries that have been destroyed and refrain from destroying more of them. Also stopping kissing the asses of Saudi medieval princes and their friends and allies here and there that fund and support these ISIS terrorists

might very well be useful.

Might indeed.

Note that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work too well with suicide bombers.

[galdur]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

That´s good and even better would be to deal with the root. Stabilize countries that have been destroyed and refrain from destroying more of them. Also stopping kissing the asses of Saudi medieval princes and their friends and allies here and there that fund and support these ISIS terrorists

might very well be useful.

Might indeed.

Note that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work too well with suicide bombers.

Well, during this war against terrorists that´s scheduled to take up to a century there are obviously all sorts of terrorists, evil ones, moderate terrorists, our sons of bitches et cetera. It´s difficult to figure out which is which and which is the flavor of the day. But Emanuel Goldstein was killed eleven times and seems to be permanently dead which is some progress I guess ,I´m mostly wondering who benefits from endless wars and have done since this hundred years war was declared.

[HarryKPeters]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

That´s good and even better would be to deal with the root. Stabilize countries that have been destroyed and refrain from destroying more of them. Also stopping kissing the asses of Saudi medieval princes and their friends and allies here and there that fund and support these ISIS terrorists

might very well be useful.

Might indeed.

Note that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work too well with suicide bombers.

Well, during this war against terrorists that´s scheduled to take up to a century there are obviously all sorts of terrorists, evil ones, moderate terrorists, our sons of bitches et cetera. It´s difficult to figure out which is which and which is the flavor of the day. I´m mostly wondering who benefits and have done since this hundred years war was declared.

Introspection can be a bliss. We western people did some harmfull things too and we learned. Now upcoming countries in africa and asia are doing the same.

Fight hate with hate is not solution, certainly with some nukes on the black market.

People who learn form their mistakes, don't make them... again

Terrorist is a fancy word for nobody's. Students who shoot fellow students, rapist and criminals are not called terrorist.. that's weird, because they are atheist/christians..?

Let's face it, there a lot of nobody's in this planet, question is everytime they do an act of stupidity should we kill their family, relatives and friends too?

[Spendulus]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

That´s good and even better would be to deal with the root. Stabilize countries that have been destroyed and refrain from destroying more of them. Also stopping kissing the asses of Saudi medieval princes and their friends and allies here and there that fund and support these ISIS terrorists

might very well be useful.

Might indeed.

Note that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work too well with suicide bombers.

Well, during this war against terrorists that´s scheduled to take up to a century there are obviously all sorts of terrorists, evil ones, moderate terrorists, our sons of bitches et cetera. It´s difficult to figure out which is which and which is the flavor of the day. But Emanuel Goldstein was killed eleven times and seems to be permanently dead which is some progress I guess ,I´m mostly wondering who benefits from endless wars and have done since this hundred years war was declared.

Excepting that geographical division existed in the  book 1984.  Placing terror in the midst of all nation states does make having the requisite Two Daily Minutes of Hate plausible.

[galdur]

French president says will fight attackers "without mercy"

Best of luck. Maybe it´ll work, time will tell. All I´ve seen in recent time is escalating violence.

The French president said a lot of good things. Closing the borders, terrorist aiming to spread hate, fear & violence.

Closing the borders is a strong sign for France being part of the EU. However it will not hold.

That´s good and even better would be to deal with the root. Stabilize countries that have been destroyed and refrain from destroying more of them. Also stopping kissing the asses of Saudi medieval princes and their friends and allies here and there that fund and support these ISIS terrorists

might very well be useful.

Might indeed.

Note that "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't work too well with suicide bombers.

Well, during this war against terrorists that´s scheduled to take up to a century there are obviously all sorts of terrorists, evil ones, moderate terrorists, our sons of bitches et cetera. It´s difficult to figure out which is which and which is the flavor of the day. I´m mostly wondering who benefits and have done since this hundred years war was declared.

Introspection can be a bliss. We western people did some harmfull things too and we learned. Now upcoming countries in africa and asia are doing the same.

Fight hate with hate is not solution, certainly with some nukes on the black market.

People who learn form their mistakes, don't make them... again

Terrorist is a fancy word for nobody's. Students who shoot fellow students, rapist and criminals are not called terrorist.. that's weird, because they are atheist/christians..?

Let's face it, there a lot of nobody's in this planet, question is everytime they do an act of stupidity should we kill their family, relatives and friends too?

The state has a monopoly on the use of violence. Therefore if it trains people to terrorize and destabilize countries they are by definition called freedom fighters. Well, that applies to our state of course. If other states that don´t adhere to our high and holy standards do this it´s terrorism. We kill people to free them, it´s for democracy. Humanitarian bombing is another side of that coin.

[Spendulus]

Introspection can be a bliss. We western people did some harmfull things too and we learned. Now upcoming countries in africa and asia are doing the same.

Fight hate with hate is not solution, certainly with some nukes on the black market.

People who learn form their mistakes, don't make them... again

Terrorist is a fancy word for nobody's. Students who shoot fellow students, rapist and criminals are not called terrorist.. that's weird, because they are atheist/christians..?

Let's face it, there a lot of nobody's in this planet, question is everytime they do an act of stupidity should we kill their family, relatives and friends too?

Bullshit.  Blame the victim crap.

If one percent of the people in the vicinity of these attacks had concealed carry, this tragedy could not have occurred to the extent it did. 

[galdur]

From the horse´s mouth:

BC: How long it lasts depends on whether the places out of which really big, effective terrorist groups are operating remain essentially stateless. The territories in Pakistan and the border area with Afghanistan are not part of a centralized state. Robert Kaplan has written tons of books about what’s going on in the modern world, and if you read The Ends of the Earth and these books that say we are de facto, no matter what the laws say, becoming nations of mega-city-states full of really poor, angry, uneducated, and highly vulnerable people, all over the world, we would have a lot of slumdog millionaires. If that’s right, then terror — meaning killing and robbery and coercion by people who do not have state authority and go beyond national borders — could be around for a very long time. On the other hand, terrorism needs both anxiety and opportunity to flourish. So one of the things that the United States and others ought to be doing is trying to help the nation-state adjust to the realities of the 21st century and then succeed.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/11/30/bill-clintons-world/

[FrostStick]

So this is caused by ISIS again?

[galdur]

'What are you doing in Syria? You're going to pay now'
Yasmin, inside the Bataclan, told BFM television: "I saw two guys. The biggest one said: 'What are you doing in Syria? You're going to pay now.'
"Then he opened fire.
"I saw bodies falling all around me. I was shot in the foot. It was carnage. I've never seen so many dead people all around," she said, sobbing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html#update-20151114-0115  timestamp 01:15

[galdur]

It´s important to pay close attention to the very first reports of events of this kind. Later they will have had time to spin things around. They being the people who cook up the news for you.

[Spendulus]

So this is caused by ISIS again?

 A terrorist was somehow taken alive at the concert hall. Not so surprising: He supposedly told police he’s with ISIS.

[galdur]

So this is caused by ISIS again?

 A terrorist was somehow taken alive at the concert hall. Not so surprising: He supposedly told police he’s with ISIS.

Well, this is the latest I see

Bataclan terrorists blew themselves up as police closed in
The Paris police prefect said the attackers at the Bataclan rock venue blew themselves up with suicide belts as police closed in. He said the gunmen first sprayed cafes outside the venue with machine gunfire, then went inside the concert hall and killed more before the assaullt by security forces.
The prefect, Michel Cadot, said the one set of attackers was at the stadium and at nearly the same time the second group attacked within the city.
Cadot said all the attackers are believed dead, although authorities are hunting for any possible accomplices.

[galdur]

Gen. Allen: ISIS War to Last ‘A Generation or More’
Obama's War Envoy Insists ISIS a Threat to Progress

by Jason Ditz, June 03, 2015

Out of and quickly back into Iraq, the Pentagon and its officials have talked about the new ISIS war with barely restrained glee as another chance to keep pushing Congress for bigger budgets, and for “emergency” war funding every single year.

Retired Marine Gen. John Allen, who has become President Obama’s special ambassador for the war, going around the world selling it to potential allies, today predicted the conflict would be much longer than anyone imagines, saying it “will likely take a generation or more.”

Citing his four decades in the Marines, Allen insists ISIS is the most brutal group ever, and claimed they are a threat to “the progress of humanity” if not defeated militarily. Which, again, he says is going to take “a generation or more.”

The American publicly is likely not up for another protracted, nation-bankrupting conflict, particularly since they’ve already got one ongoing in Afghanistan and just freshly got extricated from the last one in Iraq. Polls show war weariness already growing among voters nine months into the new war, with 61% saying the war is going badly, and 29% saying it’s going “very badly.”

That’s a surprising level of skepticism for this early in a war, particularly with the administration loudly insisting, every chance they get, that they are “winning” the war. The public is clearly not buying it, and that’s going to be a problem for the pro-war factions of both parties as months extend into years, let alone “generations.”

To the extent officials attempted to sell the American public on the ISIS war at all, it was couched as an extremely limited conflict, both in scope and timescale. The Pentagon has since escalated their involvement countless times, seemingly only making things worse with each escalation, and is now making it plain that what was supposed to be a  quick intervention to shift the momentum in favor of the Iraqi military is actually going to be an endless war of attrition aimed at destroying the de facto caliphate.

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/06/03/gen-allen-isis-war-to-last-a-generation-or-more/

[galdur]

This Allen guy, Obama´s ISIS Czar and master publicist,  is absolutely ding-dong looney tunes like the people who appointed him, needless to say. Like seeks like. But they were forced to fire him recently. Some lunatics just can´t act sane which obviously is bad for publicity.

[Flyskyhigh]

Possible Fake? HOAX?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3Ii9BXai4

Another thing, why no independent media coverage? Why such bad video coverage? Where is all of the HD cellphone coverage from everyone?

Raises suspicions!

[francism]

Possible Fake? HOAX?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3Ii9BXai4

Another thing, why no independent media coverage? Why such bad video coverage? Where is all of the HD cellphone coverage from everyone?

Raises suspicions!

Popular news media like the New York Times will not report this incident if it is a hoax. This is serious, are you on something?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/world/europe/paris-shooting-attacks.html