[ANN] FutureBit MoonLander: A Modern and Efficient Scrypt USB Stick Miner!

[zyzzyva]

What software are you using that displays the temperature of each MoonLander? That would be so much easier than breaking out my infrared thermometer a couple times a day. 

temps are 0. the usb doesnt have a temp sensor.

My bad, thought it was a min/max.

[wolverine5pl]

Software and instructions are up here: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=28691.0

At the very least please download bfgminer and make sure it runs on your system before you get your stick so I can help with resolving any software issues. It should start up and go to the "add device" screen.

Any way to find out about software and instructions somewhere else as litecointalk is down

[jstefanop]

Software and instructions are up here: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=28691.0

At the very least please download bfgminer and make sure it runs on your system before you get your stick so I can help with resolving any software issues. It should start up and go to the "add device" screen.

Any way to find out about software and instructions somewhere else as litecointalk is down

Instructions have been transferred over to the second post of this thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1248914.msg12967980#msg12967980

[makuny]

which coins i can mine with this scrypt miner?
more than ltc or doge?

scrypt is also x11 as example - correct?

[bittick]

I am interested, please pm me with ordering procedure

[jstefanop]

which coins i can mine with this scrypt miner?
more than ltc or doge?

scrypt is also x11 as example - correct?

scrypt and x11 are different algorithms..this mines only scrypt coins.

[makuny]

which coins i can mine with this scrypt miner?
more than ltc or doge?

scrypt is also x11 as example - correct?

scrypt and x11 are different algorithms..this mines only scrypt coins.

Hmmmh, thanks.
But scrypt is not profitable

[jstefanop]

which coins i can mine with this scrypt miner?
more than ltc or doge?

scrypt is also x11 as example - correct?

scrypt and x11 are different algorithms..this mines only scrypt coins.

Hmmmh, thanks.
But scrypt is not profitable

People use this mostly as cheap little lottery miners. They cost next to nothing to run, and you have a chance of making about $100 if you get lucky

[ManeBjorn]

Can I ask jstefanop which USB hub you have tested with and where do I get one?

I've tested with the [url]http://www.eyeboot.com/19-port-dipo-electronic-USB-Hub?search=Hub/[url] and used a bridge I have for two ports power to one stick. I get the weird multiple miners found on the RPi and Cubie while on the PC it fades away after a few mins.
I've run 16 HexFuries on this hub at the same time.
I'm not sure it's a power issue.
I also tested with a powered Orico USB 3.0 hub same results all systems.

[ranlo]

which coins i can mine with this scrypt miner?
more than ltc or doge?

scrypt is also x11 as example - correct?

scrypt and x11 are different algorithms..this mines only scrypt coins.

Hmmmh, thanks.
But scrypt is not profitable

People use this mostly as cheap little lottery miners. They cost next to nothing to run, and you have a chance of making about $100 if you get lucky

Hmm, I wonder what the chances are of recouping the ~$30 off one though. I guess it's cheap enough that even if you don't, you aren't out a lot.

[ManeBjorn]

They are fun to play with and figure out the quirks as well as a lottery ticket.

which coins i can mine with this scrypt miner?
more than ltc or doge?

scrypt is also x11 as example - correct?

scrypt and x11 are different algorithms..this mines only scrypt coins.

Hmmmh, thanks.
But scrypt is not profitable

People use this mostly as cheap little lottery miners. They cost next to nothing to run, and you have a chance of making about $100 if you get lucky

Hmm, I wonder what the chances are of recouping the ~$30 off one though. I guess it's cheap enough that even if you don't, you aren't out a lot.

[Obeseskydiver]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

[aarons6]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

you may have to plug your usb3 hub into a usb2 hub to get it to work.

[Obeseskydiver]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

you may have to plug your usb3 hub into a usb2 hub to get it to work.

crap, sadly my laptop doesnt have any USB 2.0 ports.

[aarons6]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

you may have to plug your usb3 hub into a usb2 hub to get it to work.

crap, sadly my laptop doesnt have any USB 2.0 ports.

i said a hub, not ports.

[jstefanop]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

This is the hub I recommend. http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41LaxmqTREL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FW4KH14FP92J3MHA2XF

It has an internal really well constructed Powersupply, and is the only hub I found that can handle all 7 ports running full speed. The on you linked probably has an external crappy brick PSU which is probably not good enough.

For the "Sick" issue it probably means you have the difficulty set too high...so it takes forever for the stick to submit a share, so bfgminer "thinks" its sick. Remember these are low powered devices and most pools think you are connecting high speed ASICs to them and have stock high difficulties. Make sure you are using vardiff with low initial diff, or forcing a diff of under 100.

16 diff per stick is a good starting point. This will give a share every second or so.

[ManeBjorn]

I ordered one of these it will be here tomorrow.  I will let you know how it works on the custom images for the RPi2 and A10 Cubieboard with Minera that CrazyGuy setup.

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

This is the hub I recommend. http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41LaxmqTREL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FW4KH14FP92J3MHA2XF

It has an internal really well constructed Powersupply, and is the only hub I found that can handle all 7 ports running full speed. The on you linked probably has an external crappy brick PSU which is probably not good enough.

For the "Sick" issue it probably means you have the difficulty set too high...so it takes forever for the stick to submit a share, so bfgminer "thinks" its sick. Remember these are low powered devices and most pools think you are connecting high speed ASICs to them and have stock high difficulties. Make sure you are using vardiff with low initial diff, or forcing a diff of under 100.

16 diff per stick is a good starting point. This will give a share every second or so.

[Obeseskydiver]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

you may have to plug your usb3 hub into a usb2 hub to get it to work.

crap, sadly my laptop doesnt have any USB 2.0 ports.

i said a hub, not ports.

Got a USB 2.0 hub and it still gives me the same error. The computer will recognize the miner until I start bfgminer and once it happens, the miner will disconnect and attempt to reconnect and my computer will give the same error.

[zyzzyva]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

This is the hub I recommend. http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41LaxmqTREL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FW4KH14FP92J3MHA2XF

It has an internal really well constructed Powersupply, and is the only hub I found that can handle all 7 ports running full speed. The on you linked probably has an external crappy brick PSU which is probably not good enough.

For the "Sick" issue it probably means you have the difficulty set too high...so it takes forever for the stick to submit a share, so bfgminer "thinks" its sick. Remember these are low powered devices and most pools think you are connecting high speed ASICs to them and have stock high difficulties. Make sure you are using vardiff with low initial diff, or forcing a diff of under 100.

16 diff per stick is a good starting point. This will give a share every second or so.

Speaking of which...if you know a bit of C, it's easy enough to increase the "SICK" timeout in bfgminer. Is there any downside to doing this? I'd like to increase it to something like 5 minutes for solo mining against a wallet, but I'm not sure what the MoonLanders are actually doing when they're not reporting large shares. I'd hate to burn them out or something!

[Obeseskydiver]

I believe my HUB isn't performing to what it says. I got the superbpag USB 3.0 Superspeed HUB,http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4X3DAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, and when I plug a moonlander in, it wont read on bfgminer. My computer will give the error "usb device not recognized the item has malfunctioned", I thought I received a destroyed miner, but when I connected my other two, it gave me the same error. I connected the miners directly into the computer and they all work.

Yet I'm having an issue of the speeds slowly decreasing and bfgminer 5.4 declaring it "SICK. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Should I increase the intensity?

Also to get multiple miners working at one time, should I run two instances of bfgminer each with its own config or can I put in the config to use two login information?

This is the hub I recommend. http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41LaxmqTREL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FW4KH14FP92J3MHA2XF

It has an internal really well constructed Powersupply, and is the only hub I found that can handle all 7 ports running full speed. The on you linked probably has an external crappy brick PSU which is probably not good enough.

For the "Sick" issue it probably means you have the difficulty set too high...so it takes forever for the stick to submit a share, so bfgminer "thinks" its sick. Remember these are low powered devices and most pools think you are connecting high speed ASICs to them and have stock high difficulties. Make sure you are using vardiff with low initial diff, or forcing a diff of under 100.

16 diff per stick is a good starting point. This will give a share every second or so.

Yes, I was looking into this one before I bought the other HUB, I thought it would push out enough power so I could save a few bucks...guess not.lol

I'm going to return this one and get the one you suggested.