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Author Topic: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OLD and LOCKED]  (Read 55239 times)
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December 05, 2015, 12:57:17 AM
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They say it on their page.  Mastertrader777 is the lead developer.  But he's admitted that he doesn't code before.  He outsources development work.

This page is kind of embarrassing with all of the bad grammar and such.

That's the old page, hasn't been updated since version 1 (stillborn). I wouldn't assume Mastertrader777 is still involved unless he decides to confirm himself. Not sure why he would commit source code under the name of "Kieth Harville".

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December 05, 2015, 12:58:55 AM
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OK Paul, I will keep this simple.
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin.  (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.

you responded "whocares about the forking?"

Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.

Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar

Bullshit. Learn to read. Exact quote:

Ok, let me rephrase: a single entity. Doesn't really make any difference. Actually if it's a "group" that makes it probably more dangerous, less predictable, etc. But that's not the point.

Someone acquiring this amount of coins reeks of inside knowledge. Therefore negating the "no-premine" argument being repeated by BitStoneDev.

Even if it's not an inside job it's still a huge risk to bagholders. Even 10% of that amount would pretty much destroy Bittrex order books.

Even if it's not an inside job and doesn't get dumped in large quantities it's still a risk to the network - that "entity" could likely fork the coin at will.

That's just a few red flags from one address. How many flags would you say is the minimum to consider that something might not be entirely above board?

COULD LIKELY FORK - for example if they had another 5% in another address perhaps?

But good job ignoring the rest of that post.

Another stellar theory
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December 05, 2015, 12:59:06 AM
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They say it on their page.  Mastertrader777 is the lead developer.  But he's admitted that he doesn't code before.  He outsources development work.

This page is kind of embarrassing with all of the bad grammar and such.

That's the old page, hasn't been updated since version 1 (stillborn). I wouldn't assume Mastertrader777 is still involved unless he decides to confirm himself. Not sure why he would commit source code under the name of "Kieth Harville".

Why don't we ask him in the Mastertrader thread?  If he says he is not, then Keith definitely lied.

But I'm telling you, he is.  He and BitStoneDev have identical vocabularies / writing styles.
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December 05, 2015, 01:01:39 AM
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@suchmoon I know you don't care, because you a major part of the gaw period and came out clean and now are always on the offensive. Enjoy bashing away with your crew, no one listens to you guys anyway.

You do. You just can't force yourself to click that ignore button. Now please find (or create) an appropriate thread and post your GAW stuff there. Make sure to post proof of me being "major part of the gaw" or whatever you're trying to say there (punctuation isn't your strongest skill, is it?).

Back to topic if I may so suggest. Who controls ~50% of the non-premined BitStone coin supply? Any guesses?


I was thinking you also said this you dumbass
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December 05, 2015, 01:04:36 AM
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@suchmoon I know you don't care, because you a major part of the gaw period and came out clean and now are always on the offensive. Enjoy bashing away with your crew, no one listens to you guys anyway.

You do. You just can't force yourself to click that ignore button. Now please find (or create) an appropriate thread and post your GAW stuff there. Make sure to post proof of me being "major part of the gaw" or whatever you're trying to say there (punctuation isn't your strongest skill, is it?).

Back to topic if I may so suggest. Who controls ~50% of the non-premined BitStone coin supply? Any guesses?


I was thinking you also said this you dumbass

You are getting desperate.  Don't resort to name calling.
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December 05, 2015, 01:05:46 AM
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https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm

Follow the money!!!
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December 05, 2015, 01:07:27 AM
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Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-

You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.  

So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it.  All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it

Are you really that dense? What 8000 coin wallets? What are you even looking at?

Here is the address. One address. Had 200k coins at one point and 205k total incoming/outgoing.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm

Here is a picture. I highlighted the relevant parts.



What kind of theory do you need from me? I have already posted the facts and my opinion as to why that's important/dangerous. If you have a solid argument against that - go ahead.

It's not my fault that it's taking you 30+ pages to wrap your head around a simple blockchain fact.


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December 05, 2015, 01:08:29 AM
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Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-

You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.  

So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it.  All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it

Are you really that dense? What 8000 coin wallets? What are you even looking at?

Here is the address. One address. Had 200k coins at one point and 205k total incoming/outgoing.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm

Here is a picture. I highlighted the relevant parts.



What kind of theory do you need from me? I have already posted the facts and my opinion as to why that's important/dangerous. If you have a solid argument against that - go ahead.

It's not my fault that it's taking you 30+ to wrap your head around a simple blockchain fact.



Thanks SuchMoon.  Sometimes a "For Dummies" guide is the only way to get the message across.
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December 05, 2015, 01:10:15 AM
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@suchmoon I know you don't care, because you a major part of the gaw period and came out clean and now are always on the offensive. Enjoy bashing away with your crew, no one listens to you guys anyway.

You do. You just can't force yourself to click that ignore button. Now please find (or create) an appropriate thread and post your GAW stuff there. Make sure to post proof of me being "major part of the gaw" or whatever you're trying to say there (punctuation isn't your strongest skill, is it?).

Back to topic if I may so suggest. Who controls ~50% of the non-premined BitStone coin supply? Any guesses?

I was thinking you also said this you dumbass

Yes, I did. What's wrong with that? I apologize for rounding it up to 50% if that's what you're still butthurt about. I'll use ~46% from now on. So please when you're done attacking the messenger can you get back on topic and perhaps discuss this:

Who controls ~46% of the non-premined BitStone coin supply? Any guesses?

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December 05, 2015, 01:10:26 AM
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I wonder if someone has brought this to the attention of Bittrex. They have the most to potentially lose if someone implements a 51% attack.
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December 05, 2015, 01:12:09 AM
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Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-

You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.  

So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it.  All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it

Are you really that dense? What 8000 coin wallets? What are you even looking at?

Here is the address. One address. Had 200k coins at one point and 205k total incoming/outgoing.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm

Here is a picture. I highlighted the relevant parts.



What kind of theory do you need from me? I have already posted the facts and my opinion as to why that's important/dangerous. If you have a solid argument against that - go ahead.

It's not my fault that it's taking you 30+ to wrap your head around a simple blockchain fact.



yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value.  The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken.  It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks
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December 05, 2015, 01:13:38 AM
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Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-

You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.  

So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it.  All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it

Are you really that dense? What 8000 coin wallets? What are you even looking at?

Here is the address. One address. Had 200k coins at one point and 205k total incoming/outgoing.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm

Here is a picture. I highlighted the relevant parts.



What kind of theory do you need from me? I have already posted the facts and my opinion as to why that's important/dangerous. If you have a solid argument against that - go ahead.

It's not my fault that it's taking you 30+ to wrap your head around a simple blockchain fact.



yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value.  The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken.  It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks

Who cares?  I can't deal any more.  Your intellect concerns me.

But...But... so and so said that there was 8,000 coin wallets.  That should be the least of your worries.  Get a clue.
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December 05, 2015, 01:14:34 AM
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I wonder if someone has brought this to the attention of Bittrex. They have the most to potentially lose if someone implements a 51% attack.

YOU CANNOT DO A 51% ATTACK WITH 46% OF THE COINS... Furthermore there are not that many in any wallet and no one has shown any proof of anything
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December 05, 2015, 01:14:52 AM
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I wonder if someone has brought this to the attention of Bittrex. They have the most to potentially lose if someone implements a 51% attack.

Careful!!! It's a 46% attack Grin

Seriously though, initially I thought the address might belong to Bittrex. But it first appeared well before the coin was listed on Bittrex, so that's unlikely. Or someone had an early access to the exchange, which would probably be even more fucked up.

Anyway, bensam12345 you're up. wheellocks refused to disprove the blockchain - your turn now.

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December 05, 2015, 01:18:50 AM
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I wonder if someone has brought this to the attention of Bittrex. They have the most to potentially lose if someone implements a 51% attack.

YOU CANNOT DO A 51% ATTACK WITH 46% OF THE COINS... Furthermore there are not that many in any wallet and no one has shown any proof of anything

Dude you have NO FUCKING CLUE what you are talking about.  This coin is PoS, right?  Not PoW.

You don't have to have 51% of the coins to ruin a PoS network.

So please, just stop.  Go do your homework and maybe you can come back and play with the big boys later.
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December 05, 2015, 01:19:22 AM
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yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value.  The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken.  It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks

Oh FFS... 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46

Feel better now? So what's the deal with the 46% bagholder? Is he/she a good guy/gal? Not a concern to the small bagholders at all? Is that what you're trying to say? Spit it out.

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December 05, 2015, 01:20:28 AM
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You keep bringing up your famous ~50% bag insanity thought.....you are wrong, and I don't have to prove it.

Once you prove that you are correct with your accusation, then I will show you that you are wrong

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm

You're up.

What is the deal with hundreds? of addresses with ~8,000 in them?

sorry suchmoon, it wasn't you it was your idiot friend Paul Revere and his never ending list of bullshit
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December 05, 2015, 01:21:01 AM
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I wonder if someone has brought this to the attention of Bittrex. They have the most to potentially lose if someone implements a 51% attack.

Careful!!! It's a 46% attack Grin

Seriously though, initially I thought the address might belong to Bittrex. But it first appeared well before the coin was listed on Bittrex, so that's unlikely. Or someone had an early access to the exchange, which would probably be even more fucked up.

Anyway, bensam12345 you're up. wheellocks refused to disprove the blockchain - your turn now.

Unlike Cryptsy, Bittrex does not stake coins. So, unless Bittrex is doing something shady, it's not their address.
Even if this person only controls 46% of the coins, I wouldn't think it would be too hard to acquire the extra 5%. I'm so glad you finally got through my thick skull, suchmoon. If I want to increase my mineral collection, I'll just wait for the next gem show to come to town.
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December 05, 2015, 01:22:45 AM
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yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value.  The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken.  It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks

Oh FFS... 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46

Feel better now? So what's the deal with the 46% bagholder? Is he/she a good guy/gal? Not a concern to the small bagholders at all? Is that what you're trying to say? Spit it out.

Finally- the lying and misrepresentation of the facts by suchmoon has been resolved -- well at least that one time
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December 05, 2015, 01:26:11 AM
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yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value.  The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken.  It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks

Oh FFS... 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46

Feel better now? So what's the deal with the 46% bagholder? Is he/she a good guy/gal? Not a concern to the small bagholders at all? Is that what you're trying to say? Spit it out.

Finally- the lying and misrepresentation of the facts by suchmoon has been resolved -- well at least that one time

Fantastic. File a complaint with the SEC if you feel I defrauded you in any way. Now are we back on topic? Yes? No?

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