● Why Bitcoin is Not Mainstream Yet & my Suggestions! ●

[xuyongai]

I basically agree with most of what you saying, but point number 10 in my opinion, might be a bit strong. You have put a lot of time and effort into your post and we do appreciate

that, but the gender thing, is a bit over the top. I have posted many arguments and proof that women are using Bitcoin in other threads about that topic on the forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163902.60

Point number 3   - INCOME: Lack of earning bitcoin methods & bitcoin jobs carry my biggest support, and should shift to the number 1 position. We need more income sources for

people to earn Bitcoin online. Every second newbie on this forum, ask that question, when they join... "Where can I earn Bitcoin?"

Well done... Good post.  

very good

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[RealBitcoin]

Has anyone got any extra inspiration from my wisdoms?

[somac.]

Just my 2 cents. But, for bitcoin to go mainstream quickly (I think that in the long-term we will get there anyway), something has to appear (service/product) that you can only do with bitcoin, that is so awesome that it is potentially addictive.

Think of things such as facebook. Can't do that shit without a digital network, and appears to be pretty addictive for a lot of people.

If you have that, politics, PR, difficulty of obtaining bitcoin, none of that matters. People will find a way to satisfy their needs.

Fucked if I know what it could be, and I don't think it matters anyway. Long-term bitcoin will get there.

[franky1]

Has anyone got any extra inspiration from my wisdoms?

your wisdom's just seem to be about getting noobs to buy in, and then find that they cant really spend it..
your wisdom's seem predominantly centered around pump and dump methodology rather than growing bitcoin infrastructure/economy.

until your wisdoms expand beyond your mindset of pump and dumping coin prices. there will always be backlash that will tarnish any positive PR.

so as i tried to point out before.. start on the bitcoin business, so people can sell products like toilet roll baked beans, coffee sandwiches and staff can earn a bitcoin wage. which will then get people to actually find that they dont need to convert to fiat to buy toilet paper..
then noobs will see bitcoin as something useful..

then your PR attempts wont be as hard.

doing it the other way (your OP way).. is an endless cycle of people buying in, getting confused/lost and then running out.. over and over again..

[RealBitcoin]

your wisdom's just seem to be about getting noobs to buy in, and then find that they cant really spend it..
your wisdom's seem predominantly centered around pump and dump methodology rather than growing bitcoin infrastructure/economy.

until your wisdoms expand beyond your mindset of pump and dumping coin prices. there will always be backlash that will tarnish any positive PR.

so as i tried to point out before.. start on the bitcoin business, so people can sell products like toilet roll baked beans, coffee sandwiches and staff can earn a bitcoin wage. which will then get people to actually find that they dont need to convert to fiat to buy toilet paper..
then noobs will see bitcoin as something useful..

then your PR attempts wont be as hard.

doing it the other way (your OP way).. is an endless cycle of people buying in, getting confused/lost and then running out.. over and over again..

How is my method pump and dump when I addressed long term goals specifically.

The enviroment creates the organism, the organism adapts to the enviroment - Reality 101

If bitcoin is promoted well enough for people to get interested in it, then goods & services will quickly adapt to it for it to be useful.



How long did it take for banks to get into bitcoin? 5 years.

How long did it take for banks to use the internet? 15 years.

How long did it take for banks to use electronics? 30 years.

The future is acceleration and adaptation is key for survival and they know it!

[btckold24]

We definitely need more jobs to offer to pay or partially pay in bitcoin. I know personally I
would get 10% of my pay in btc if it was offered

[franky1]

How is my method pump and dump when I addressed long term goals specifically.

The enviroment creates the organism, the organism adapts to the enviroment - Reality 101

If bitcoin is promoted well enough for people to get interested in it, then goods & services will quickly adapt to it for it to be useful.

you anaology is not how your OP (the PR centric) plan shows..

you say the environment creates an orgasm..
but your plan is not to create any thing.. all you want to do is advertise that the organism should multiply..

thats no way to ensure organisms survival, thats no way to even ensure constant and growing multiplication of organisms..

you are not addressing bitcoin as a functional and useful currency/tool.. you real obsessed purely in grabbing noobs..

so tell me what advantages are you going to spout out what promises are you going to give for these noobs..
you seem soo obsessed about PR yet you have not really told anyone the 'sale pitch' noobs will see that will solve everything.

so again.. its far easier to solve the problems. then the sales pitch would hold more weight and require less of a push

[franky1]

We definitely need more jobs to offer to pay or partially pay in bitcoin. I know personally I
would get 10% of my pay in btc if it was offered

https://www.coinbase.com/careers
https://bitpay.com/about/team
https://ripple.com/company/careers/

i just searched 3 of the main bitcoin related companies. and guess what, their hiring

[Rubberduckie]

Very nice post normally I hate long posts but I actually took the
time to read your entire post. I must say I agree on most everything
you mentioned in the OP.  When I first heard about bitcoin is was from
my wife and her brother so it was easier to have people who could
answer all my questions. There needs to be more educational websites
that make it easier to explain what bitcoin is and how it works. This would
also help business owners get more information and could help with adoption.

[HardcoreSuperstar]

I would add offline payments made easier as a suggestion.

[RealBitcoin]

How is my method pump and dump when I addressed long term goals specifically.

The enviroment creates the organism, the organism adapts to the enviroment - Reality 101

If bitcoin is promoted well enough for people to get interested in it, then goods & services will quickly adapt to it for it to be useful.

you anaology is not how your OP (the PR centric) plan shows..

you say the environment creates an orgasm..
but your plan is not to create any thing.. all you want to do is advertise that the organism should multiply..

thats no way to ensure organisms survival, thats no way to even ensure constant and growing multiplication of organisms..

you are not addressing bitcoin as a functional and useful currency/tool.. you real obsessed purely in grabbing noobs..

so tell me what advantages are you going to spout out what promises are you going to give for these noobs..
you seem soo obsessed about PR yet you have not really told anyone the 'sale pitch' noobs will see that will solve everything.

so again.. its far easier to solve the problems. then the sales pitch would hold more weight and require less of a push

I`m not obsesses in grabbing new people, but you have to understand that nothing works better than systematic marketing.

How do you think apple or facebook got so many users? By sitting on their butts criticizing eachother? NO.

They worked hard to promote it, spend huge amounts of money, and then the herd effect did the rest.


Bitcoin needs a similar approach, or it doesnt need it, but it is recommended to have it. Therefore we could accelerate it's growth.


In case of bitcoin, end justifies the means in my opinion. And it doesnt matter how bitcoin becomes succesful, once it does.

[zivone]

4﴿ EDUCATION: Lack of a good guide to newbies

This is the main reason for me. When I first learned about bitcoin, I did googled it but  upon reading too many unfamiliar words/terms for me that I gave up understanding those word or raised more questions than actually answers my questions. Understanding the over all concept of bitcoin is not easy to adapt by new users.

[thejaytiesto]

4﴿ EDUCATION: Lack of a good guide to newbies

This is the main reason for me. When I first learned about bitcoin, I did googled it but  upon reading too many unfamiliar words/terms for me that I gave up understanding those word or raised more questions than actually answers my questions. Understanding the over all concept of bitcoin is not easy to adapt by new users.

I think this initial feeling of being confused as hell is normal at first. After you learn the basics you see this mystery and complexity around Bitcoin is just smoke and it's actually way easier than any other money system ever invented, the thing is, all the technical babble is all over the place with Bitcoin and people get confused when the end customer shouldn't even need to know what a blockchain is.

[tom555]

my opinion
Bitcoin is Not Mainstream Yet because :
1. we need more advertise about bitcoin,not all of debt card user know about ease of bitcoin.
2. not many bitcoin user have pleasure to introduce bitcoin to their friends or family.

[cellard]

my opinion
Bitcoin is Not Mainstream Yet because :
1. we need more advertise about bitcoin,not all of debt card user know about ease of bitcoin.
2. not many bitcoin user have pleasure to introduce bitcoin to their friends or family.

Marketing is not really needed at this point, we still don't have a clear way to scale Bitcoin. If marketing was a big success and a ton of people became adopters all of a sudden we would have big problems dealing with the new amount of Bitcoins. I think it's better to stay low key until all thinks are clear scaling wise.

[RealBitcoin]

4﴿ EDUCATION: Lack of a good guide to newbies

This is the main reason for me. When I first learned about bitcoin, I did googled it but  upon reading too many unfamiliar words/terms for me that I gave up understanding those word or raised more questions than actually answers my questions. Understanding the over all concept of bitcoin is not easy to adapt by new users.

I think this initial feeling of being confused as hell is normal at first. After you learn the basics you see this mystery and complexity around Bitcoin is just smoke and it's actually way easier than any other money system ever invented, the thing is, all the technical babble is all over the place with Bitcoin and people get confused when the end customer shouldn't even need to know what a blockchain is.

The customer should know what blockchain is. The criteria of a free market is:  "informed customers make rational decisions".

Or do you want some bureocrat deciding where to put your money? I dont think so.


However this doesnt mean that there should not be a simple explanation of bitcoin for newbies.

[franky1]

I`m not obsesses in grabbing new people, but you have to understand that nothing works better than systematic marketing.

How do you think apple or facebook got so many users? By sitting on their butts criticizing eachother? NO.

They worked hard to promote it, spend huge amounts of money, and then the herd effect did the rest.


Bitcoin needs a similar approach, or it doesnt need it, but it is recommended to have it. Therefore we could accelerate it's growth.


In case of bitcoin, end justifies the means in my opinion. And it doesnt matter how bitcoin becomes succesful, once it does.

but apple and facebook had a fully user friendly end-product. that people could understand and use, without worry or headache.
bitcoin is still a prototype. its not perfect..

so if you really want to do PR. start with businesses right now... hold off on the random average joe for now.. and just get bitcoin more user friendly and useful
then later, once you can see an easy path for:
people to easily understand
people to buy bitcoin
people to work for bitcoin
people to use bitcoin to buy real life stuff (meaning toilet paper not specialist / limited list of stuff)
people can use it faster than 10 minutes (meaning its better then a 40 second debit card transaction)

then and only then will it be ready to mass market to common average joe folk.
until then, concentrate on the business, financial and technical industries

[RealBitcoin]

but apple and facebook had a fully user friendly end-product. that people could understand and use, without worry or headache.
bitcoin is still a prototype. its not perfect..

so if you really want to do PR. start with businesses right now... hold off on the random average joe for now.. and just get bitcoin more user friendly and useful
then later, once you can see an easy path for:
people to easily understand
people to buy bitcoin
people to work for bitcoin
people to use bitcoin to buy real life stuff (meaning toilet paper not specialist / limited list of stuff)
people can use it faster than 10 minutes (meaning its better then a 40 second debit card transaction)

then and only then will it be ready to mass market to common average joe folk.
until then, concentrate on the business, financial and technical industries

Well then a revamping of the bitcoin.org site is needed. I dont really like the design of it, it is pretty sketchy and the labels suck and the menus are very badly designed.

Bitcoin.org should be a copy paste of litecoin.com (with orange+white color theme).


You need to put the definition of bitcoin first with a video in the middle, then below the features, and on the top of the site the menu with buttons and dropdown menus.


Probably with an index of merchants, as litecoin has. Bitcoin only has only the bitcoin wiki listed merchants, but not on the site, which is bad.

[franky1]

Well then a revamping of the bitcoin.org site is needed. I dont really like the design of it, it is pretty sketchy and the labels suck and the menus are very badly designed.

Bitcoin.org should be a copy paste of litecoin.com (with orange+white color theme).


You need to put the definition of bitcoin first with a video in the middle, then below the features, and on the top of the site the menu with buttons and dropdown menus.


Probably with an index of merchants, as litecoin has. Bitcoin only has only the bitcoin wiki listed merchants, but not on the site, which is bad.

i agree, the bitcoin.org does need a redesign.. but before the redisign of the website we need to sort out the features and usefulness of bitcoins, thus actually have better content to tell people.

thus i bring you back to my point..
1. improving features and ease of use
2. training/resource materials
3. business development
4. acceptability
5. central store of all the information above
.. then mass advertising
we definitely are not at point 5 yet

[BigBoy89]

but apple and facebook had a fully user friendly end-product. that people could understand and use, without worry or headache.
bitcoin is still a prototype. its not perfect..

so if you really want to do PR. start with businesses right now... hold off on the random average joe for now.. and just get bitcoin more user friendly and useful
then later, once you can see an easy path for:
people to easily understand
people to buy bitcoin
people to work for bitcoin
people to use bitcoin to buy real life stuff (meaning toilet paper not specialist / limited list of stuff)
people can use it faster than 10 minutes (meaning its better then a 40 second debit card transaction)

then and only then will it be ready to mass market to common average joe folk.
until then, concentrate on the business, financial and technical industries

Well then a revamping of the bitcoin.org site is needed. I dont really like the design of it, it is pretty sketchy and the labels suck and the menus are very badly designed.

Bitcoin.org should be a copy paste of litecoin.com (with orange+white color theme).


You need to put the definition of bitcoin first with a video in the middle, then below the features, and on the top of the site the menu with buttons and dropdown menus.


Probably with an index of merchants, as litecoin has. Bitcoin only has only the bitcoin wiki listed merchants, but not on the site, which is bad.

You got it right it's just little bit of change to over all website and make it more user friendly to attract more users and also easily understandable and one more thing I feels about Bitcoin is lacking in exposure so educate people about BTC.