How to Defeat ISIS and the hate.

[bitsmichel]

You are blaming the US but Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and tons of others are doing the same with different social motivations.

We are blaming the US because it is the root cause of terrorism around the world. Ever since the end of the WW2 in 1945, the United States have invaded or triggered proxy wars in more than 70 countries. The Al Qaeda was funded and armed by the CIA, at least in the starting phase. The Americans have toppled secular governments in the middle east, and have replaced them with hardline Islamist regimes.

I remain sceptical. What makes you think other superpowers don't do the same?

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War
War in Abkhazia
War of Transnistria
East Prigorodny Conflict
Civil War in Tajikistan
Georgian Civil War
First Chechen War
War of Dagestan
Second Chechen War
Russo-Georgian War
North Caucasus Insurgency
Annexation of Crimea
War in Donbass
Intervention in Syria

Chinese wars since WW2:

Chinese Civil War
Invasion of Tibet
Korean War
Vietnam War
Sino-India war
Sino-soviet border conflict
Sino-vietnamese war
Balochistan conflict
Syrian War

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[BADecker]

You are blaming the US but Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and tons of others are doing the same with different social motivations.

We are blaming the US because it is the root cause of terrorism around the world. Ever since the end of the WW2 in 1945, the United States have invaded or triggered proxy wars in more than 70 countries. The Al Qaeda was funded and armed by the CIA, at least in the starting phase. The Americans have toppled secular governments in the middle east, and have replaced them with hardline Islamist regimes.

I remain sceptical. What makes you think other superpowers don't do the same?

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War
War in Abkhazia
War of Transnistria
East Prigorodny Conflict
Civil War in Tajikistan
Georgian Civil War
First Chechen War
War of Dagestan
Second Chechen War
Russo-Georgian War
North Caucasus Insurgency
Annexation of Crimea
War in Donbass
Intervention in Syria

Chinese wars since WW2:

Chinese Civil War
Invasion of Tibet
Korean War
Vietnam War
Sino-India war
Sino-soviet border conflict
Sino-vietnamese war
Balochistan conflict
Syrian War

In addition, America with its gun freedom is keeping the rest of the world free. How? The leaders of the other nations of the world are afraid that if they enslave their people too much, the people will take a hard look at American gun freedom, and will make guns, themselves. Then the leaders of these nations will die, at the hands of their own people they were enslaving.

[bryant.coleman]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

[Daniel91]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Also, if I remember well, USSR wasn't involved in Korean War but China.
In Angola Cuba send soldiers, not USSR.
Any way, let's back to original question.
You can defeat organization or state but can't defeat hate.
Hate is individual issue, and each of us have to deal with it.
Nobody can fight with feelings of people

[Newmba]

Yes, someone wants civil war to break out in Europe. But it's too late to defend ourselves, just look at this subsection, people are digging their own graves

[BADecker]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Also, if I remember well, USSR wasn't involved in Korean War but China.
In Angola Cuba send soldiers, not USSR.
Any way, let's back to original question.
You can defeat organization or state but can't defeat hate.
Hate is individual issue, and each of us have to deal with it.
Nobody can fight with feelings of people

That's why war kills the other people. Can't defeat them simply fighting them.   

[adverbelly]

Are you kidding? This IS what ISIS is doing in Syria to the Syrian people. Murdering, pillaging, raping, eradicating those who they think are infidels.

It's awful.

And your facts on the US are terrible incorrect. Yes, there was a lot of fighting and killing but there wasn't rape, there wasn't forced marriage, there wasn't mass murder. Please get your facts straight or lose the passive aggressive approach toward your distaste for the US.

 Its not really my thought, I do not hate the US, but your telling me native Americans weren't murdered? conquered?  from their own country?  Edit and women weren't raped?  

It's history. All of the world murdered and conquered. The US is a great country, ISIS land is hell. 

i agree with you .. god save the us.. isis are full of bastards..

[Spendulus]

Are you kidding? This IS what ISIS is doing in Syria to the Syrian people. Murdering, pillaging, raping, eradicating those who they think are infidels.

It's awful.

And your facts on the US are terrible incorrect. Yes, there was a lot of fighting and killing but there wasn't rape, there wasn't forced marriage, there wasn't mass murder. Please get your facts straight or lose the passive aggressive approach toward your distaste for the US.

 Its not really my thought, I do not hate the US, but your telling me native Americans weren't murdered? conquered?  from their own country?  Edit and women weren't raped?  

It's history. All of the world murdered and conquered. The US is a great country, ISIS land is hell. 

i agree with you .. god save the us.. isis are full of bastards..

I have known a fair number of native americans.  I don't know any that would put historical events in the terms you have (bolded above).  The white man came, and the Indians got horses.  They liked horses.  The white man brought them guns.  They liked guns.  The white man brought liquor.  They liked liquor.  (IT WAS REALLY BAD FOR THEM AND STILL IS.)  Many Americans today are part Indian.  I find your comments offensive (lol, not that it matters...)

[jak1]

we have isis in Europe and probably in USA...and all this raping,assult is already happening...their hate is impossible to destroy if you do not destroy them, their ideology

[bitsmichel]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. 1917–1993.  
Western world view is that Soviet Union as a Union that collapsed, Russians view it as Russian territory that got lost.

[af_newbie]

Harry is right though, but just thought it was the idea of how wars were won.  So I took out this comment.

Cut funding.  Ideology loses its potency when you are hungry.

Attack the infrastructure.  They will fold like a house of cards.

[af_newbie]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. 1917–1993.  
Western world view is that Soviet Union as a Union that collapsed, Russians view it as Russian territory that got lost.

It was a union but not by choice. Russian military bases were established to make sure it stayed a union.  Russian language was the official language and was actively encouraged. All jobs required a good knowledge of Russian.  For any managerial positions you had to be an ethnic Russian from Russia proper.  Even in satellite, Warsaw Pact countries.  USSR was (Greater) Russia.

What you think Putin is doing?  He is trying to 'Make Russia Great Again' so he is flexing his aged muscles where ever he can.

[fuathan]

To completely remove the nonsense "religion" things... People are easily believes this concept and do what it wants to them...

[bryant.coleman]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. 1917–1993.  
Western world view is that Soviet Union as a Union that collapsed, Russians view it as Russian territory that got lost.

Listen idiot, the Soviet-Afghan War was between the USSR and Afghanistan. It was not being fought between the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and Afghanistan. Invasion of Czechoslovakia was done by USSR, and not the RSFSR. In that case, you can also say that Estonia and Lithuania invaded Afghanistan. After all, they were also a part of the USSR at that time.

[bitsmichel]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. 1917–1993.  
Western world view is that Soviet Union as a Union that collapsed, Russians view it as Russian territory that got lost.

Listen idiot, the Soviet-Afghan War was between the USSR and Afghanistan. It was not being fought between the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and Afghanistan. Invasion of Czechoslovakia was done by USSR, and not the RSFSR. In that case, you can also say that Estonia and Lithuania invaded Afghanistan. After all, they were also a part of the USSR at that time.

No more good arguments?  Russia was involved in those wars.

[jak1]

It won't be easy because millions of jihadists are now in Europe disguised like refugees. In Afganistan Al Quaeda, ISIS in middle East, Boko Haram in Nigeria, it looks like radical isalm spread across whole world

[bryant.coleman]

Russia was involved in those wars.

No. The Russian Federation was not involved in them. The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic was indirectly involved in those conflicts. And so was Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic, Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic, Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic, and the 10 other constituent republics of the USSR.

[vero]

Russian wars since the end of WW2:

Korean War
Hungarian Revolution
Invasion of Czechoslovakia
War of Attrition
Eritrean War of Independence
Angolan Civil War
Ethio-Somali War
Soviet-Afghan War

Which Russia are you talking about? Russia was not existent from 1917 to 1992. Perhaps you need a few history lessons as well. The USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a union of 15 different republics, including Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.etc. Now if you want to compare USSR with the US, then it is for another topic.

Also, if I remember well, USSR wasn't involved in Korean War but China.
In Angola Cuba send soldiers, not USSR.
Any way, let's back to original question.
You can defeat organization or state but can't defeat hate.
Hate is individual issue, and each of us have to deal with it.
Nobody can fight with feelings of people

That's why war kills the other people. Can't defeat them simply fighting them.    

the best way let the Muslims fight their own fights as that part of the world is not worth let alone the thousands of our wounded and dead.

[bryant.coleman]

the best way let the Muslims fight their own fights as that part of the world is not worth let alone the thousands of our wounded and dead.

That is what Russia is doing in the Middle East. They are just providing aerial support to the regime in Syria, while the Kurds and the regime forces are fighting the ISIS / Al Nusra. The same is the case with Yemen as well. The Shiites and the Sunnis are fighting against each other, with Iran supporting the former and the Saudis supporting the latter. Western powers need to stay out of Middle East.

[Spendulus]

the best way let the Muslims fight their own fights as that part of the world is not worth let alone the thousands of our wounded and dead.

That is what Russia is doing in the Middle East. They are just providing aerial support to the regime in Syria, while the Kurds and the regime forces are fighting the ISIS / Al Nusra. The same is the case with Yemen as well. The Shiites and the Sunnis are fighting against each other, with Iran supporting the former and the Saudis supporting the latter. Western powers need to stay out of Middle East.

Miltarily?

How about cutting off the massive foreign aid dollars while we're at it?