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November 24, 2015, 04:20:53 AM
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So people who deny gold has a charm effect on humans please watch these pictures for a few seconds:





Now tell me that it doesnt invoke greed in you?

Just when you see these shiny bars your mind triggers and starts producing adrenaline and other chemicals that trigger your "greed instinct", and make you want to grab them out of your monitor Cheesy

You see gold has a charm, and that charm can be dangerous.

Let's say that these pictures are all plastic blocks coated in Nordic Gold coating (which is used on Euros) - Copper 87%, Aluminium 5%, Zinc 5%, Tin 1% , they look exactly the same as gold bars, would that still make you feel charming?

If it is not charming any more, then it is the gold itself gives you feeling of charming. So all expensive things would also give you that charming feeling. If you still feel they are charming, then your charming definition is just a yellowish metal color, totally personal preference, has nothing to do with gold (I know lots of people hate yellowish color metal, they prefer white or black)

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November 24, 2015, 04:24:57 AM
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Let's say that these pictures are all plastic blocks coated in Nordic Gold coating (which is used on Euros) - Copper 87%, Aluminium 5%, Zinc 5%, Tin 1% , they look exactly the same as gold bars, would that still make you feel charming?

Yes, because I have no way of knowing that the gold is fake until I use an ultrasound machine on it, or weight it (plastic would weight much less).


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November 24, 2015, 05:26:24 AM
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There is no devil.  Evil is sort of a human construct.  Gold has unique properties.  People like shiny things.

I was meaning it metaphorically. I`m not a religious person, yet I find wisdoms in ancient texts.

You have to admit that gold itself has really caused humans to behave in evil ways. And this is just "money" that is causing people to be evil, but there is some subtle evil aura around gold that makes people do evil things.

Ancient texts could be Greece, we can learn so much still from knowing one of the first democracies.  Doesnt have to be religion at all, those lessons were true 900bc and are still needed to be known now

Gold is a representation, its not the creation of anything but an elemental metal.  The native americans just left gold on the floor, it wasnt as highly valued for them and as a very mobile population of people a heavy but soft object was not a useful item to them to carry round.


I think you are talking about greed really which is just a basic human attribute, if you look at children playing they'll still try to horde all the toys even when they can only play with one at a time.   Its not really gold just we all have flaws as humans.    As you grow up hopefully we recognise what is worth fighting over or what is productive, turns out toys can be shared with no loss maybe you even gain the use of others not your own and so on.  

Gold as a representation can be a positive, yes its just a useless blob mostly but its also a solid representation of value which can be passed around.  IF shared, something productive happens in society and to me this is what capitalism is about.    We can miss that point our whole lives but we are better off exchanging our work and resources between ourselves not hoarding value



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November 24, 2015, 09:11:36 AM
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If gold is the root of all evil, you can also say money is the root of all evil or bitcoin is the root of all evil.
The fact is: gold has nothing to do with evil.


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November 24, 2015, 09:17:53 AM
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not gold that make people being such devil but the people make gold looks like only for devil

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November 24, 2015, 10:44:31 AM
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As stated by many others, it are the people who are evil or are easy corrupted by greed. Blaming an assets is just plain ridiciculous.

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November 24, 2015, 11:36:23 AM
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more like the money is the root of the all evil in this world, because it create greediness, inequity, difference and then you have war
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November 24, 2015, 02:10:35 PM
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If you start form first principles, all economies beyond bartering require money, and gold is a major form of money (and so are silver, dollars and sterling, etc., throughout history.)

It's not surprising that people and states do evil things for money.  But you can't blame champagne and caviar for the things some people do to have this lifestyle.

I agree that Bitcoin holds several advantages over gold, as money.  But it also has disadvantages.  It requires electricity, and requires a certain literacy to understand.  And you can be sure that any small deficiency in this literacy on the part of the public will be fully exploited by some.
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November 24, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
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more like the money is the root of the all evil in this world, because it create greediness, inequity, difference and then you have war
I think you're talking about power. Money is just the extension of power. People become corrupt because they want more power and more influence.


unlike gold bitcoin doesn't have a physical form, so you can't just steal it from governments and people. Does that mean we cant have wars over bitcoin?
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November 24, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
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Want I can say is everything when left to carry you along may be the source of evil. The reason I can say why people say that gold is the source of all evil is due to the worthiness and value it holds. People engage in evil deeds just to get a portion of gold and by having the perspective that gold will solve all the problem they have, many have fallen into trap. Be always careful that you do not reach a point where you are worship the gold and you can do without it.
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November 24, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
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more like the money is the root of the all evil in this world, because it create greediness, inequity, difference and then you have war
I think you're talking about power. Money is just the extension of power. People become corrupt because they want more power and more influence.


unlike gold bitcoin doesn't have a physical form, so you can't just steal it from governments and people. Does that mean we cant have wars over bitcoin?

yeah it's right, but the only for of power(megalomania) in this world is being rich and then famous, strength sadly don't count nothing, we are not in a anime
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November 24, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
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On a related note, I perform evil gold exorcisms. Just package up your gold and send it to me. I'll return to you pure and Godly chunks of Iron that are no threat at all. 

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November 24, 2015, 09:37:57 PM
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Gold is not evil in itself. It's is that's evil. We used gold as a currency, and people are naturally greedy, no matter how touch they are. It's a way of life.

We shouldn't hate gold. We should encourage each other to not be greedy. Greed and hate have caused more bad things than those you listed in the OP.


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November 24, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
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Gold is not evil in itself. It's is that's evil. We used gold as a currency, and people are naturally greedy, no matter how touch they are. It's a way of life.

We shouldn't hate gold. We should encourage each other to not be greedy. Greed and hate have caused more bad things than those you listed in the OP.

Yes, exactly this. If we would start to use potatoes for money tomorrow, then potatoes would be a root of all evil. Money, hold, potatoes, whatever, is just a medium of exchange. There is no problem in the medium if the exchange. There is just a problem in people and in all human race.
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November 24, 2015, 10:11:22 PM
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On a related note, I perform evil gold exorcisms. Just package up your gold and send it to me. I'll return to you pure and Godly chunks of Iron that are no threat at all. 

In the case you need any  help, just shoot me a PM, I would be happy to help you out.
BTW if you feel you are are vulnerable for greed, just sent me your gold too. I safeguard your gold until  you are cured.
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November 24, 2015, 10:13:33 PM
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Let's say that these pictures are all plastic blocks coated in Nordic Gold coating (which is used on Euros) - Copper 87%, Aluminium 5%, Zinc 5%, Tin 1% , they look exactly the same as gold bars, would that still make you feel charming?

Yes, because I have no way of knowing that the gold is fake until I use an ultrasound machine on it, or weight it (plastic would weight much less).



Or you can just simply scratch the bar and see if shaves off or not.

Gold testers do this all the time when they sell a gold bar at places to cash in.

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November 24, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
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Let's say that these pictures are all plastic blocks coated in Nordic Gold coating (which is used on Euros) - Copper 87%, Aluminium 5%, Zinc 5%, Tin 1% , they look exactly the same as gold bars, would that still make you feel charming?

Yes, because I have no way of knowing that the gold is fake until I use an ultrasound machine on it, or weight it (plastic would weight much less).



Or you can just simply scratch the bar and see if shaves off or not.

Gold testers do this all the time when they sell a gold bar at places to cash in.

If it's deep enough it is hard to scratch. They can have 0.5 cm to 1 cm coat of gold around a wolfram/lead alloy bar, it would weight the same if it's mixed correctly, so the only way to detect it is if you measure the density by either using some liquid or an ultrasound machine.

Atleast bitcoin is fungible Cheesy

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Gold is easily measurable, its not a mystic art to compare its exact dimensions to its weight.    When gold coins were used, only one hundred years ago they would just have a clip in to fit the coin on a scale.   It had to both for a pure gold transaction, took 30 seconds tops



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November 25, 2015, 04:23:22 AM
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Gold is not the root of all evil.

It's how you use gold or how much you love gold or any of your possessions that makes it evil. Use it for good and not for evil.  Smiley

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November 25, 2015, 07:15:30 AM
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Gold is not an evil.
It is depends on how the person handles all the gold they have.
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