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November 21, 2015, 03:13:27 AM
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I have been thinking about gold, from a different perspective. We all know that fiat money can be abused by the governments. We all know that money can be printed out of thin air, in form of fiat, that can fund tyrrany and out of control governments.

But what about gold really? Now most of you will think that of course gold limits the governments spendings and it leaves more personal freedoms to the citizens.


However that might not be the case at all. We know that wars are funded by fiat money (throughout history) but they have all been fought for gold.

There isnt a single piece of gold that hasnt been tied blood too. From crusades, wars, sackings, pillagings, going back to the bronze age, every war and other evil thing was done for gold. The middle ages: spanish conquest blood gold, englands colonizations for gold, american slavery and gold rush etc...

It seems like everything evil was done for gold. Even in WW2 Hitler after invading countries, the first thing was to steal their gold. Then after Hitler lost, the allies and soviets took their gold. Now different countries still are in dispute about the gold in ww2.


Everything evil goes around gold.


Even in the Bible when Moses went to mount Sinai, when he returned with the 10 commandments, he found that his people were worshipping gold!


Gold seems to be the instrument of the devil, and it's far older than fiat money, and proven throughout history only used for evil.


Thoughts on it?


What about Bitcoin?

Bitcoin is superior to gold: both morally and practically. Since bitcoin is digital and can't be stolen that easily and cant be used for war, we will have a more brighter future if we adopt bitcoin instead of gold. Plus since bitcoin cant be localized physically, you cannot declare a war on a country to stole it's bitcoin because its not physically present, and private keys can be hidden easily.

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November 21, 2015, 03:21:34 AM
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There is no devil.  Evil is sort of a human construct.  Gold has unique properties.  People like shiny things.
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November 21, 2015, 03:39:50 AM
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There is no devil.  Evil is sort of a human construct.  Gold has unique properties.  People like shiny things.

I was meaning it metaphorically. I`m not a religious person, yet I find wisdoms in ancient texts.

You have to admit that gold itself has really caused humans to behave in evil ways. And this is just "money" that is causing people to be evil, but there is some subtle evil aura around gold that makes people do evil things.

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November 21, 2015, 03:44:39 AM
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It is the love of money which is the root of all evil. If you lust for things that are of this world, you will never grow spiritually. This war we are in must be won with soul power and knowledge. Physical force must be resisted with soul force. Lies must be countered with organized knowledge, so here I will post some details for our discussion.

The bankers do nothing productive and live off of what they steal from the people, and they are at war with 99% of We the People; in any war, the winner always seizes the gold of the loser, and that happened right here in the land of the free (USA). The Congress then passed HJR 192 in order to escape liability for TREASON.

There is a hidden history of economic attack by foreign bankers which you can read about here (PDF).



You do not HAVE TO BECOME evil to recognize evil. In fact until you are NOT EVIL in intent--YOU CANNOT RECOGNIZE IT. Money, for instance, is NOT OF GOD--"money" is something conjured by man. Therefore it would seem quite reasonable and wise to handle money as "man" pronounces upon you his rules for his money. If you go to war--he ends up with you dead--AND THE MONEY. Likewise, GOLD is neither good nor is it bad--it IS. So, it depends on what you choose to value such product, that it has value or NO VALUE. As long as it has value as "money" it will pay to consider that the enemy wants all the money, so attend gold to the extent that you need it for electronic circuitry or monatomic gold for cell rehabilitation, etc. If you are to make passage within God then you are going to have to do the things OF GOD--not the negative things of Satan who can only use and destroy. GOD CREATES. So, what do we do? We start CREATING! WE CREATE THE WAY.

"But won't the enemy tear down our creations?" Yep, a lot of them--but he cannot uncreate--only destroy. IF WE CREATE PASSAGE--HE CANNOT DESTROY IT. My suggestion is that we create a whole bunch of things for him to tear down--for he can't tear down that which is REALITY--he can only sweep you into HIS ILLUSION. Creation is "thought" so let us "think" wisely and CREATE through wise THOUGHT that which shall come to pass.

You don't need books to show you the way--but it undoubtedly helps as you come into understanding through the use of KNOWLEDGE. You have to also understand your "enemy" and the rule-books by which he SERVES Satan.
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November 21, 2015, 04:00:14 AM
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There is no devil.  Evil is sort of a human construct.  Gold has unique properties.  People like shiny things.

I was meaning it metaphorically. I`m not a religious person, yet I find wisdoms in ancient texts.

You have to admit that gold itself has really caused humans to behave in evil ways. And this is just "money" that is causing people to be evil, but there is some subtle evil aura around gold that makes people do evil things.

because gold is use a currency back then, and it has a value which you use to buy food and some other stuff.
even if let say sea shells where use as currency back then it will be the same as the gold it will cause people to do
evil stuff.

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November 21, 2015, 04:12:14 AM
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It is the love of money which is the root of all evil. If you lust for things that are of this world, you will never grow spiritually. This war we are in must be won with soul power and knowledge. Physical force must be resisted with soul force. Lies must be countered with organized knowledge, so here I will post some details for our discussion.


Not all money, I havent seen bitcoiners going on crusades and enslaving people.

Sure there are bitcoin scams and other minor things, but the scale is nothing compared to gold


because gold is use a currency back then, and it has a value which you use to buy food and some other stuff.
even if let say sea shells where use as currency back then it will be the same as the gold it will cause people to do
evil stuff.

Not really fiat money was always in some sort circulation even in ancient Babylon. They used copper or nickel coins as fiat money for ordinary people, whereas the lords used gold for their wars and slavery.

So most people were using fiat always, and only the elite were using gold.

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November 21, 2015, 04:20:15 AM
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It is the love of money which is the root of all evil. If you lust for things that are of this world, you will never grow spiritually. This war we are in must be won with soul power and knowledge. Physical force must be resisted with soul force. Lies must be countered with organized knowledge, so here I will post some details for our discussion.


Not all money, I havent seen bitcoiners going on crusades and enslaving people.

Sure there are bitcoin scams and other minor things, but the scale is nothing compared to gold


because gold is use a currency back then, and it has a value which you use to buy food and some other stuff.
even if let say sea shells where use as currency back then it will be the same as the gold it will cause people to do
evil stuff.

Not really fiat money was always in some sort circulation even in ancient Babylon. They used copper or nickel coins as fiat money for ordinary people, whereas the lords used gold for their wars and slavery.

So most people were using fiat always, and only the elite were using gold.
if gold where taken out in the history, and copper or nickel is used by the lords as you say it will be just like gold
they will still use it the same way as they use gold.

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November 21, 2015, 04:23:19 AM
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If gold is evil, money is evil.
Because gold is money.
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November 21, 2015, 04:42:10 AM
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If gold is evil, money is evil.
Because gold is money.

Exactly! And with that I totaly agree. Money is the root of all evel and this system is depends on it. Whery good way to control people, to make them slaves in this society. Now this more visible then ever, we all have internet. But I doubt that will ever change. It has to big roots I believe, and I hope I will be here when this system crash.


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November 21, 2015, 04:46:57 AM
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If gold is evil, money is evil.
Because gold is money.

Bitcoin is money too, and bitcoin cant be stolen like gold can.

If bitcoin would have been here for thousands of years, then the history would be less bloody.

Bitcoin's decentralized nature removes blood from money Smiley

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November 21, 2015, 05:08:05 AM
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If gold is evil, money is evil.
Because gold is money.

Bitcoin is money too, and bitcoin cant be stolen like gold can.

If bitcoin would have been here for thousands of years, then the history would be less bloody.

Bitcoin's decentralized nature removes blood from money Smiley

i dont agree with your reply which i highlighted bitcoin can be stolen , the address where you keep if anyone hack your account then he can do anything with that, so their is nothing that can be stolen , its upto how safe you keep it.














 

 

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November 21, 2015, 05:37:00 AM
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If gold is evil, money is evil.
Because gold is money.

Bitcoin is money too, and bitcoin cant be stolen like gold can.

If bitcoin would have been here for thousands of years, then the history would be less bloody.

Bitcoin's decentralized nature removes blood from money Smiley

i dont agree with your reply which i highlighted bitcoin can be stolen , the address where you keep if anyone hack your account then he can do anything with that, so their is nothing that can be stolen , its upto how safe you keep it.

What i meant to say is that bitcoin cant be stolen that easily.

Gold can be stolen by just taking it. For bitcoin to be stolen the private key needs to be revealed, which is much harder to do.

So that adds some basic security to bitcoin vs gold.

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November 21, 2015, 05:50:36 AM
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No, I beleive that greed and gluttony are the roots of all evil to be honest.

Gold however made it easy for a man to wear and horde his greed and gluttony in a readily tradeable form.
How many millions have died over conquest for gold and riches? Countless numbers I am sure.

Money is the root of all evil perhaps.. and gold is money.. so is bitcoin.. so really bitcoin could be the root of all evil.
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November 21, 2015, 05:52:04 AM
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If gold is evil, money is evil.
Because gold is money.

Bitcoin is money too, and bitcoin cant be stolen like gold can.

If bitcoin would have been here for thousands of years, then the history would be less bloody.

Bitcoin's decentralized nature removes blood from money Smiley

i dont agree with your reply which i highlighted bitcoin can be stolen , the address where you keep if anyone hack your account then he can do anything with that, so their is nothing that can be stolen , its upto how safe you keep it.

What i meant to say is that bitcoin cant be stolen that easily.

Gold can be stolen by just taking it. For bitcoin to be stolen the private key needs to be revealed, which is much harder to do.

So that adds some basic security to bitcoin vs gold.

Find me any precious metals forum that has a scam accusation sub forum as long as Bitcointalk's.

I think more people have lost money through bitcoin scams/hacks/dodgy exchanges/Ponzi's/forgotten passwords/corrupted wallets/Failed hard drives than private stacker gold thefts.





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November 21, 2015, 06:02:15 AM
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It is the love of money which is the root of all evil. If you lust for things that are of this world, you will never grow spiritually. This war we are in must be won with soul power and knowledge. Physical force must be resisted with soul force. Lies must be countered with organized knowledge, so here I will post some details for our discussion.
Not all money, I havent seen bitcoiners going on crusades and enslaving people.
I have seen too many bitcoiners who are too busy trying to make money (bitcoin) that they ignore the larger (spiritual) forces at play in their lives. Is the bitcoin network used primarily for charity and/or remittance? NO, far more bitcoin transactions relate to gambling, criminal/questionable activity, and speculation. The bitcoin not being transacted is being hoarded, again due to speculation. None of that is making the world a better place. Even worse, many in this community choose to pay TAXES on their bitcoin and that tribute inevitably funds wars as a result of that choice. I came to this community after searching for lawful money and alternatives to the banking system, so there is no way that I will volunteer to go back into that evil system. Even if you can transact your money freely, you still need to think freely in order to face evil in this world. If you are into ancient texts, you will hear practically all of them tell you that all this material stuff is evil and only that which is within you has any value; in Bhagavad Gita it is called "duty", in Tao Te Ching "virtue", in the New Testament it is the "Kingdom of God", in Buddhism "inconceivable liberation". This materialistic society only takes "death and taxes" for granted, but hear now the truth: the only certain thing is change, and "the wisest one is the one who knows only that he knows nothing" (from Plato/Socrates, it is a description of a free thinker who values internal refinement over material illusions). And from Tao Te Ching:

Therefore the ancients say, 'Yield and overcome'.
Is that an empty saying?
Be really whole,
And all things will come to you.


 The ancients mastered stone, and they knew about the non-physical. Even science is beginning to move towards a post-materialist paradigm, as explained here:
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/11/11/physicists-say-consciousness-may-be-a-state-of-matter-the-non-physical-is-indeed-real/

The love of money is indeed the root of all evil! If you are into the world of materialism and that is your message, then that is the world you portray... You WILL portray the world you represent and desire--no matter how hard you effort to hide it. You ARE exactly WHAT YOU ARE!

If you wish to change from that which you ARE--then take responsibility and become that which you desire--STOP blaming your lack of change on anything or anyone ELSE! If you are so foolish as to base your existence on another's OPINIONS WITHOUT QUESTION--THEN CHANGE IS NOT THAT WHICH YOU DESIRE--YOU LIE! When you desire something enough to change--you will DO IT. It is absolutely THAT simple.

You can create the soul-ution. Again, it is not the gold that is evil, it is the LOVE of gold; you see, mankind has forgotten the commandment to LOVE GOD and LOVE EACH OTHER; Man values objects over people and over self and as a result he loses knowledge of what is real and what should truly concern him.
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November 21, 2015, 06:19:25 AM
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Hi,

No, Gold is not evil. It is one one of the oldest physical currencies that most cultures still understand.

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November 21, 2015, 07:35:45 AM
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Love of money is evil because it parasitically feeds on what is good.
Man has made money into his Master.
Just ask yourself: Does your money work for you, or do you work for your money?
Money is a tool, but the love of money is a disease, it is demonic;
I found one page in a book that perfectly describes why the love of money is evil:
Link to Google Books
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November 21, 2015, 07:36:24 AM
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I don't think so. The root of all evil is the the human nature, greed, lust, lazy. We want money with any ways.
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November 21, 2015, 09:12:27 AM
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People need to some thing to blame their failure in a life so every one will find some thing blame like how you're asking gold is evil. First we need to change our self and try to live peacefully with what ever god had given to us. So both money and gold and people mentality are the evils.
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November 21, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
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Gold is a good friend: so far it has always been the best store of value: no offence to Bitcoin but that's a long way. And no gold is not the root of all evil. People are corrupted within themselves because of what gold represents ant symbolizes. Nothing else.
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