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November 24, 2015, 02:08:46 AM
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Hello All,

Some questions about my mining and electricity. I have a dryer plug and stove plug for mining lighting and computers fans ac etc i need to run into the 240/250.

To the best of my knowledge 1 of these is the plug for my tripplite pdu (the circular one). Now will this plug directly into a druger plug ? I already have the converter wire for tripplite pdu plug to dryer plug, but i was getting a lot of servers crashing. Could it be the wrong phase?

The second plug that looks like a triangle is from a stove plug. To the best of my knowledge this seems to be 250v 3phase but honestly i have no clue and could be wrong.

How do I convert that to be able to hook up miners with another ip controlled tripplite pdu? And the dryer plug if necc. Was the crashing related to wrong phase? Thanks!



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November 24, 2015, 02:54:52 AM
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November 24, 2015, 04:24:28 AM
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dude 240 volt can kill.

so first question is do you have a meter?

by a  meter this

http://www.amazon.com/DMiotech-Multimeter-Voltmeter-Temperature-Backlight/dp/B00Y245FSW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1448339025&sr=8-4&keywords=dmm+meter

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November 24, 2015, 05:38:01 AM
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why exctly do you believe i need a meter? The plug tells us everything we need to know about what type of power it is powering the stove and dryer.... Everything else is plug and play adapters.

I just need someone to point me into the right direction for those adapters like they did before
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November 24, 2015, 07:08:51 AM
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Both plugs are 240v single phase. I need better pics to see the exacts but here is what I see below.

One is a 20a or 30a twist lock L5 or L6

Another one is a 20a or 50a NEMA 10-20 or 10-50

The real question is what size is the wire going to it and what size is the breaker.

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November 24, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
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one is the 30amp plug yes you are right while the other is a 50amp stove. Both of these are on a 200amp box

can we get a few more reputable accounts to verify this? I want to be sure they are single phase and it is okay to proceed without fear of damage etc.

Lastly I need a converter plug for that triangular stove outlet to some type of pdu. Obviously it would be best if the pdu was rated at 50amps so I can cover the entire stove outlet.

I already have a conversion plug for the dryerplug to tripplite pdu. But now i need a conversion for the stove plug.

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November 24, 2015, 03:19:15 PM
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one is the 30amp plug yes you are right while the other is a 50amp stove. Both of these are on a 200amp box

can we get a few more reputable accounts to verify this? I want to be sure they are single phase and it is okay to proceed without fear of damage etc.

Lastly I need a converter plug for that triangular stove outlet to some type of pdu. Obviously it would be best if the pdu was rated at 50amps so I can cover the entire stove outlet.

I already have a conversion plug for the dryerplug to tripplite pdu. But now i need a conversion for the stove plug.

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that is why you need that meter.  and why until you show me you have one I won't offer advice.  I don't want you to die or blow your gear up.

 I also know you need to wire the plug or the socket so that they match each other.  Without a meter you are working in the dark.  They meter will let you determine phase and correct wiring pattern.

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November 24, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
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will have meter in ~12hrs
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November 24, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
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while you are lurking, what should i set the meter too so we are not freaking out.
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November 24, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
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while you are lurking, what should i set the meter too so we are not freaking out.
ac voltage

Then you can take measurements of the voltages in the three holes.

If you are single phase when you do hot to hot you should get 240

When you do hot to ground 120

I will demo on a 240 socket in my house

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November 24, 2015, 06:02:45 PM
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It is almost impossible to have 3 phase power in any 3 prong outlet. It will be 4 or 5.  Also it can show 208-240 and this is fine for single phase dual pole circuit breakers.

240 does not assure you it's not 3 phase. I have 200 S-5s running on 240 3 phase
 It's called high leg or wild leg see diagram below.  The best way to tell is to open your load center and see how many hot leads you got if you got 2 it's single phase. If 3 it's 3 phase.

http://www.engineeringradio.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/3-phase-delta.png

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November 24, 2015, 06:05:30 PM
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philipma1957 may have actually killed himself trying to take those pics lol
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November 24, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
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ok i found my volt meter bros how do i do this with that 50 amp stove plug without killing myself
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November 24, 2015, 06:08:54 PM
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philipma1957 may have actually killed himself trying to take those pics lol

Maybe but I think he knows what he is doing.

Electrically roasted philipma1957 it's what's for Thanksgiving.  Wink

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November 24, 2015, 06:16:10 PM
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Check these voltages on your plug and see if your close.

But either way this will not determine if it's 3 phase, but even if it is it's safe to use with the other plug and mine.


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November 24, 2015, 06:36:28 PM
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perfect, thank you so much for the help.

So now the question is what type of plug and pdu so i can plug directly into that and use the 50 amps?

Someone linked me to a plug i bought before. it converted the dryer plug in my home to a tripplite pdu female plug.

Maybe there is something like this but when i goggle i cant find anything. Me and electricity have never mixed well. I tend to be slightly impatient and this is why i like these adapter plugs and stuff. And as we all know you cant get an electrician because it will tip them off

to be more specific i am looking  for an ip pdu so i can hard reset anywhere in the world without having to have a man on site.
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November 24, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
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To go 50A on a PDU your probably looking at an IEC plug.  Different ones can be used for this.  You may want to contact Finsky as I think he sells a 50A PDU that is very cheap.

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November 24, 2015, 11:34:05 PM
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Check these voltages on your plug and see if your close.

But either way this will not determine if it's 3 phase, but even if it is it's safe to use with the other plug and mine.



yeah that diagram is the answer to op's question.. 

I wanted him to measure since I have had 3 prong plugs with 3 hot wires and a hidden illegal ground.


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November 25, 2015, 01:41:00 AM
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ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?
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November 25, 2015, 01:41:26 AM
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ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?

driving myself nuts with google
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