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November 24, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
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Hi,

Actually i want to explain the story, I purchased the Account UID: 341961 on November 2nd 2015 from Neotox for 0.2 BTC. And on November 20th 2015 I have taken a Loan of 0.07 BTC from "altcoinhosting" I have provided the signed message and username and password to "altcoinhosting" and he locked my account and he provided me loan of 0.07 BTC on November 20th 2015. here below is the proof.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Username: Sharma
Password: (Hide)
bitcoin address: 16fYvWaM7USgE1pHKqdK5t9CZXCiRoiic6
Amount: 0.07
Repay Amount: 0.074
Repay Period: 8 days
Repay bitcoin wallet address: 1d92FUSg7wUafUi77R6yjUpZVhTMKpzuQ

After you done please let me know message me to Lovebird

Can you change the password and email id of sharma account and please send me bitcoins to
16fYvWaM7USgE1pHKqdK5t9CZXCiRoiic6

Waiting for your response



The account will be locked, and the funds will be sent in <10 minutes Smiley

Here's the tx:

https://blockchain.info/tx/2a42ffea1ac01adf5c31cdb003f8ce9ae41e98b957f03ad5bf33905d2b6d6ded

It should be included in the next block, so the ammount should be in your wallet in 0-20 minutes Smiley

Actually the problem is today i checked my account and surprised that i seen a feedback on my account profile (341961) that a person purchased my account and wrote as he purchased the account below image:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2hmzq68.png

My doubt is as my account is loaned on 20th November 2015 and Locked by Lender and how Lutpin has purchased my account and how he given a fake comment as he is full member i think he know full rules. Please Lutpin if you have any proofs please show here if you paid 0.21 BTC then show the TX details here and tell that to whome you paid. This is not right thing to give fake feedbacks.

I am very thankful if some forum members help me out in this issue please.
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November 24, 2015, 08:02:26 AM
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Did you send any of them a PM?
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November 24, 2015, 08:05:46 AM
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Yes i sent PM to both Lender and to Lutpin and asked to respond here and i provided this topic link to them. Here is the proof of PM sent by me to both of them.

http://i67.tinypic.com/wist5.png

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November 24, 2015, 08:09:18 AM
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Yes i sent PM to both Lender and to Lutpin and asked to respond here and i provided this topic link to them. Here is the proof of PM sent by me to both of them.





No need to prove that just checking, because sometimes people just create thread and those accused dont even know about it. As the ratings are not moderated you will have to talk to them directly anyway. AFAIK Shield leaves these ratings if they find an account for sale. Its meant as a warning that you should not trust prior positive ratings.
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November 24, 2015, 08:13:55 AM
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Yes i am ready to discuss with them directly, I have all the proofs I purchased the account for 0.2 BTC from Neotox on 2nd November 2015 and Taken a Loan on November 20th. But how this Lutpin posted that he purchased the account. I want proofs from Lutpin, or I think he is doing bad by providing false feedbacks. I want to remove that feedback. Please suggest how if the Lutpin not respond means.
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November 24, 2015, 08:15:41 AM
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Yes i am ready to discuss with them directly, I have all the proofs I purchased the account for 0.2 BTC from Neotox on 2nd November 2015 and Taken a Loan on November 20th. But how this Lutpin posted that he purchased the account. I want proofs from Lutpin, or I think he is doing bad by providing false feedbacks. I want to remove that feedback. Please suggest how if the Lutpin not respond means.
He quoted the statement provided by you, jeez man.
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November 24, 2015, 08:20:34 AM
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I can verify that i took this account as collateral for a loan... The loan was clean (Sharma sent his account details, i sent the money, i posted everything publicly and notified the ledger of the loan)...

It's not my habit of signing in into locked collateral, but i've just verified, and the account is still locked by me.

If there is doubt about me holding the account, i can sign a message with 1d92FUSg7wUafUi77R6yjUpZVhTMKpzuQ (my public addy) and post it with Sharma's account in this thread...

 

                                       
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November 24, 2015, 11:40:44 AM
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I am quoting your feedback to shield.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=341961



I am not claiming to own the account, but warning people that this is indeed a bought account. To verify my claims I included the quote from your given feedback in my feedback to you.

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November 24, 2015, 01:01:47 PM
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The feedback should be Neutral IMO, unless there has been a scam or high probability of a scam.
That being said, it is up to the one that left the feedback.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

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November 24, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
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Yeah I guess a neutral feedback could be enough.

(I suspect OP doesn't speak english very well)

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November 25, 2015, 03:32:52 AM
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That Lutpin kid gave me negative trust for being "annoying".


I don't know why, but I feel so honored that a full member would call me annoying via trust feedback. I posted in the newbie section, then my post was thrown into Meta.
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Lutpin gave me invalid / false negative feedback too, without a proof, i think someone should care and tell a lesson to these kind of people.

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November 28, 2015, 01:29:11 AM
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Someone already told me a lesson.
It was that I can leave feedback to the best of my knowledge and belief.
And so I'm doing exactly that.
If you think you found a feedback of me thats obviously wrong, contact me.
If I agree, I will change it. But if I don't, theres no thread you can create or topic you can spam in order for me to do so.

Q: Why isn't trust moderated?
A: Feedback isn't moderated (except for obvious cases such as pure advertising, hundreds of identical empty/gibberish reports on one user) for the same reason as scams - too much room for abuse.

Q - I got negative trust! What can I do?

A - Let's split this up as it's a bad question on its own, as it usually implies that the negative trust is wrong. First, what you shouldn't do is start raging, leaving false feedback and insulting the person who left you the negative feedback. Not only does this solidify your bad position in their eyes, doing things such as leaving false feedback is a great way to get other users to also leave you negative trust. If they're on DefaultTrust, it's probably for a reason. What you should do if you wish to protest the negative trust is usually just PM the person and discuss it in a civilised manner with them. If you really believe they're abusing their power and you've tried to talk to them, make a thread in Meta setting out your arguments properly after you've talked to them. If they're not on DefaultTrust, it usually isn't worth the hassle, though.

Q - Okay, everyone agrees they're wrong and they're not/no longer on DefaultTrust - can a mod delete the negative trust?

A - No. The trust system is designed so that everyone is allowed to have an opinion. Mods will only delete trust if it is essentially spam (for instance, 10 repeated negative feedbacks with the same message).

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While they're negatively impacting their rating for giving false or negative ratings to others that have no proof or are not reasonable causes for handing out negative feedback, that person should work on finding a kind hearted staff member to create a "report option" for feedback given. This way, staff can moderate feedback.

Q: Why isn't trust moderated?
A: Feedback isn't moderated (except for obvious cases such as pure advertising, hundreds of identical empty/gibberish reports on one user) for the same reason as scams - too much room for abuse.


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November 28, 2015, 01:35:42 AM
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Lutpin gave me invalid / false negative feedback too, without a proof, i think someone should care and tell a lesson to these kind of people.
Somebody with a high trust level should give him negative feedback as well.
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November 28, 2015, 01:37:50 AM
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Lutpin gave me invalid / false negative feedback too, without a proof, i think someone should care and tell a lesson to these kind of people.
Somebody with a high trust level should give him negative feedback as well.

Someone with a "high trust level" gave me positive trust, his name is DiamondCardz.
You might think about contacting him and asking him to remove it (he's always open for a quick laugh).


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November 28, 2015, 01:43:29 AM
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While they're negatively impacting their rating for giving false or negative ratings to others that have no proof or are not reasonable causes for handing out negative feedback, that person should work on finding a kind hearted staff member to create a "report option" for feedback given. This way, staff can moderate feedback. I've already placed Lutpin on ignore for what they did to me, because giving negative feedback for the reason they did was such an insignificant reason to the point that I cannot take anything they say seriously, so why bother reading their comments....
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