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November 26, 2015, 07:37:30 AM
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today i checked and found someone left me negative feedback saying i am selling forum accounts
but it is allowed by forum zo i am not doing anything against forum rules

then why they left me negative and ruined my reputation

this default trust guy think he is supreme and can give negative for something that is allwed by forum admin
why such guys are on DT,

admin if they are not following your rules then take an action
they are misusing power of DT

want to listen comment of theymos about this, either he disallow account selling or take action

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November 26, 2015, 07:48:46 AM
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Technically speaking, scamming is not against the rules either, however people leave negative trust for that (and that is what negative trust is designed for).

It looks like jonald_fyookball left you negative trust. He has left a number of other very questionable trust ratings in the past, and has let emotion get to him when leaving trust ratings. 

He is currently on BadBear's trust list. I would suggest that you message BadBear to see if he is willing to remove Jonald from his trust list.

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November 26, 2015, 08:20:40 AM
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i did any scam?
i am not supporting any scam attempt on forum and whenever someone try to scam using account I sold then I am ready to share buyer information if they involved in scam attempt
you know this QS,in past i have shared information for any potential scammer

if that DT guy is doing this emotionally then he deserve his position on DT?
if he have done this in past then why don't he got warning for this

admin, either solve the issue or disallow selling accounts on forum
if you think selling accounts here reason for spam

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November 26, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
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i did any scam?
I am saying that using the argument that selling accounts is not against forum rules therefore you should not receive negative trust for selling accounts is a weak one.

I am suggesting that your approach be that you attempt to get jonald_fyookball removed from BadBear's trust list.

I don't think negative trust is warranted in your case, and that it is naive to think that leaving negative trust on account sellers is going to do anything to stop account sales. Plus selling forum accounts is going to make it more difficult for scammers to have +EV when they attempt their scams.

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November 26, 2015, 08:39:36 AM
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today i checked and found someone left me negative feedback saying i am selling forum accounts

but it is allowed by forum zo i am not doing anything against forum rules

then why they left me negative and ruined my reputation

this default trust guy think he is supreme and can give negative for something that is allwed by forum admin
why such guys are on DT,

admin if they are not following your rules then take an action
they are misusing power of DT

want to listen comment of theymos about this, either he disallow account selling or take action

Selling Forum Accounts Is Allowed in the forum.
See here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958097.msg10484714#msg10484714
In the above link you will find that staff "EAL" has itself too made a bid to buy an account in forum.
And The rule of the forum says this :

Rule 18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed

So you doesnot deserve that red feedback ! Talk to that person in PM about this who gave u this feedback once ))
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November 26, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
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According to the "unofficial official rules of the forum", having multiple trading accounts was okay. But selling was discouraged. He never actually said it wasn't allowed. So, technically, you can do it.


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November 26, 2015, 10:08:37 AM
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For the lazy, OP is talking about jonald_fyookball[1] set on DT level 2 by BadBear

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=261027
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November 26, 2015, 10:15:44 AM
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You do know that trust isn't moderated right? It doesn't matter if account sales are allowed or not, jonald_fyookball can give you a negative rating if they want to. There is nothing you can do about it, well, except asking them to remove it.

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November 26, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
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theymos wrote :
"If you disagree with the border-negative, leave a positive rating responding to the negative, even if you already have a positive rating for that person. Don't delete your old rating. You should also consider excluding the inaccurate- rater from your trust list." I disagree with the border- negative, and so am leaving a positive rating responding to it.

My trust don't worth much but i didn't like his abuse of trust for being a DT.

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November 26, 2015, 10:35:01 AM
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You might consider stopping the account selling.  Then he/she might remove the negative trust...  

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November 26, 2015, 10:44:39 AM
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You might consider stopping the account selling.  Then he/she might remove the negative trust... 
if forum admin disallow this i will stop immedeately
but trust me stop selling forum accounts doesn't gona stop spam/scam on forum

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November 26, 2015, 10:47:59 AM
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You do know that trust isn't moderated right? It doesn't matter if account sales are allowed or not, jonald_fyookball can give you a negative rating if they want to. There is nothing you can do about it, well, except asking them to remove it.
i think you forget that admin stops trust spam and can take action if he is agree with me
waiting for theymos comment on this

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November 26, 2015, 10:51:48 AM
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uhh, he simply don't agree what are you doing regardless any rules and he just express his opinion via trust rating and warn others, that you are obviously involved in account selling/farming.

what is a problem dude?
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November 26, 2015, 10:53:39 AM
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You do know that trust isn't moderated right? It doesn't matter if account sales are allowed or not, jonald_fyookball can give you a negative rating if they want to. There is nothing you can do about it, well, except asking them to remove it.
i think you forget that admin stops trust spam and can take action if he is agree with me
waiting for theymos comment on this

Leaving one negative feedback regarding a suject he indeed sees as negative won't be considered "trust spam" by anyone.
Spoiler alarm: theymos won't.


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November 26, 2015, 10:55:04 AM
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theymos wrote :
"If you disagree with the border-negative, leave a positive rating responding to the negative, even if you already have a positive rating for that person. Don't delete your old rating. You should also consider excluding the inaccurate- rater from your trust list." I disagree with the border- negative, and so am leaving a positive rating responding to it.

My trust don't worth much but i didn't like his abuse of trust for being a DT.


forum allowed buying/selling accounts but still DT guy left me negative
so only thing we can expect from most DT guys are misuse of their power ,nothing else.they will support the guy from their family(from DT) not other normal users,no matter if the DT guy is wrong.as you can see here by most DT users

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November 26, 2015, 10:55:19 AM
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For the lazy, OP is talking about jonald_fyookball[1] set on DT level 2 by BadBear

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=261027
why I not see his comment?(only in untrusted feedbacks), my trust setting- 2 depth, without exclusion
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November 26, 2015, 10:58:44 AM
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For the lazy, OP is talking about jonald_fyookball[1] set on DT level 2 by BadBear

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=261027
why I not see his comment?(only in untrusted feedbacks), my trust setting- 2 depth, without exclusion
don't worry you are selling accounts too so you may see a comment on yours profile soon by him

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November 26, 2015, 11:06:39 AM
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You do know that trust isn't moderated right? It doesn't matter if account sales are allowed or not, jonald_fyookball can give you a negative rating if they want to. There is nothing you can do about it, well, except asking them to remove it.
i think you forget that admin stops trust spam and can take action if he is agree with me
waiting for theymos comment on this

Leaving one negative feedback regarding a suject he indeed sees as negative won't be considered "trust spam" by anyone.
Spoiler alarm: theymos won't.
as i said already I can't expect something good from DT guys because most of them are afriad of losing their position on list so they won't sAy truth
i will wait for admins comment if he change rule to disallow selling forum accounts if he think it will stop spam/scam on forum

i lost my faith in DT, after seeing the peoples on list, most of them are just afraid or doesn't have courage to support truth

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November 26, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
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forum allowed buying/selling accounts but still DT guy left me negative
so only thing we can expect from most DT guys are misuse of their power ,nothing else.they will support the guy from their family(from DT) not other normal users,no matter if the DT guy is wrong.as you can see here by most DT users

DT =/ forum.
And "only thing we can expect from most DT guys" is to give feedback according to their opinion.
They support whoever they think is right, and thats good this way.

i lost my faith in DT, after seeing the peoples on list, most of them are just afraid or doesn't have courage to support truth

I disagree with you. I think by leaving negative feedback to you he showed courage,
since, as you are doing now, it can be criticized, and (depending on BadBear) he might have risked losing his position because of this.


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November 26, 2015, 11:12:02 AM
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forum allowed buying/selling accounts but still DT guy left me negative
so only thing we can expect from most DT guys are misuse of their power ,nothing else.they will support the guy from their family(from DT) not other normal users,no matter if the DT guy is wrong.as you can see here by most DT users

DT =/ forum.
And "only thing we can expect from most DT guys" is to give feedback according to their opinion.
They support whoever they think is right, and thats good this way.
and they change their opinions after reading other
if one say its wrong then they all will say its wrong,if someone say its right they will say its right
most of the time they follow others blindly
actually they don't have their own opinions,they just copy others

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