Israeli-Palestine conflict escalates

[dotcom]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/18/us-palestinians-israel-hamas-idUSBRE8AD0WP20121118

Obama is quick to respond but tentative to intervene as the conflict escalates (A tendency that is being mirrored by leaders around the world including many EU nations).

I am also noticing that most people who are commenting on these stories across the various news sites are convinced that the media is being biased against their 'side of the conflict' (if you will). What surprises me is that in most of the articles I've read there appears to be little to no bias in either direction, just a statement of what happened, how many died, and what various nation's responses were. It seems that instead of taking into account all information and THEN making a decision, most people seem content to simply refuse any information that goes against what they already believe (or rather what they've already been told to believe by their political parties).

[stochastic]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/18/us-palestinians-israel-hamas-idUSBRE8AD0WP20121118

Obama is quick to respond but tentative to intervene as the conflict escalates (A tendency that is being mirrored by leaders around the world including many EU nations).

I am also noticing that most people who are commenting on these stories across the various news sites are convinced that the media is being biased against their 'side of the conflict' (if you will). What surprises me is that in most of the articles I've read there appears to be little to no bias in either direction, just a statement of what happened, how many died, and what various nation's responses were. It seems that instead of taking into account all information and THEN making a decision, most people seem content to simply refuse any information that goes against what they already believe (or rather what they've already been told to believe by their political parties).

I have always been a proponent of a 1 state solution, or the Lock-in solution.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104359/i-mean-come-on

[Lethn]

I know Israel has done things to the Palestines that they have every right to be pissed off about but doesn't anyone else actually get a bit fed up with how the Hamas leader keeps calling for peace and then minutes later there are reports of missiles being fired into Israel? It's the political equivalent of the "Why are you hitting yourself?" gag, normally I wouldn't be too bothered about this kind of stupidity but they keep dragging civilians into it and don't seem to give a fuck which pisses me off.

If you want to kill each other for stupid reasons and you're determined to fine, but don't go dragging people who have nothing to do with it into your problems and be a selfish cunt about it.

[Charlie Prime]

I agree. During Operation Cast Lead in 2008-09 Israel killed 1,400 Gazans. More than 80% were civilians. Over 300 were children.

Palestinians are stupid. If a genetically superior bloodline needs Lebensraum, you get out of their way. The sailors of the U.S.S. Liberty who were monitoring Irgun death squads can tell you that.

For the "Who was there first" crowd, in the Torah the god Yahweh demands that Israelites invade neighbors and murder them. In exchange for the fresh blood, the Israelites get their neighbors’ stuff.

Consequently, it doesn’t matter who lived on the land first. When God says kill, you obey.

[myrkul]

If you want to kill each other for stupid reasons fine, but don't go dragging people who have nothing to do with it into your problems and be a selfish cunt about it.

Hear, Hear!

I say we lock Khaled Meshal and Benjamin Netanyahu in a room until either they kill each other or decide to make nice.

[Lethn]

LOL I was thinking about that myself! Seems like the best solution for everybody!

[RodeoX]

[theory] If I were Israel and were planning a spring offensive against Iran, then I would start by tamping down Hamas and it's ability to get involved locally. Then I could concentrate on Iran.  [/theory]

[myrkul]

[theory] If I were Israel and were planning a spring offensive against Iran, then I would start by tamping down Hamas and it's ability to get involved locally. Then I could concentrate on Iran.  [/theory]

If I were Israel, and wanted to give Iran a bloody nose, I'd ask my big friend the US to go bully them around.

[dotcom]

[theory] If I were Israel and were planning a spring offensive against Iran, then I would start by tamping down Hamas and it's ability to get involved locally. Then I could concentrate on Iran.  [/theory]

If I were Israel, and wanted to give Iran a bloody nose, I'd ask my big friend the US to go bully them around.

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and die in whatever wars they deem fit for us.

[myrkul]

[theory] If I were Israel and were planning a spring offensive against Iran, then I would start by tamping down Hamas and it's ability to get involved locally. Then I could concentrate on Iran.  [/theory]

If I were Israel, and wanted to give Iran a bloody nose, I'd ask my big friend the US to go bully them around.

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and die in whatever wars they deem fit for us.

Us? You got a mouse in your pocket?

[Lethn]

*squeak*

[dotcom]

[theory] If I were Israel and were planning a spring offensive against Iran, then I would start by tamping down Hamas and it's ability to get involved locally. Then I could concentrate on Iran.  [/theory]

If I were Israel, and wanted to give Iran a bloody nose, I'd ask my big friend the US to go bully them around.

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and die in whatever wars they deem fit for us.

Us? You got a mouse in your pocket?

I was born, grew up, and currently live in the U.S., hence "us" as a pronoun. I sometimes forget to speak in the 3rd-person when on internationally-used sites.

[myrkul]

[theory] If I were Israel and were planning a spring offensive against Iran, then I would start by tamping down Hamas and it's ability to get involved locally. Then I could concentrate on Iran.  [/theory]

If I were Israel, and wanted to give Iran a bloody nose, I'd ask my big friend the US to go bully them around.

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and die in whatever wars they deem fit for us.

Us? You got a mouse in your pocket?

I was born, grew up, and currently live in the U.S., hence "us" as a pronoun. I sometimes forget to speak in the 3rd-person when on internationally-used sites.

As was I, but I don't have any intention of aiding Israel, nor dying in a war. Nor do I buy into the collective mindset.

Now, if you happen to be an active-duty member of the US armed forces, and may actually be requested to go aid Israel and/or die in a war, then I can see the use of "us" as the group pronoun. Otherwise, the correct pronoun is "they."

[dotcom]

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and die in whatever wars they deem fit for us.

I'll still be forced to indirectly aid them, yes I won't be fighting. This wasn't like an official statement I was making to the press, I've never had a off-hand forum post torn apart this much lol.

Let me reword so I don't offend others delicate sensibilities:

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and for people around me to die in whatever wars they deem fit for the United States.

[myrkul]

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and die in whatever wars they deem fit for us.

I'll still be forced to indirectly aid them, yes I won't be fighting. This wasn't like an official statement I was making to the press, I've never had a off-hand forum post torn apart this much lol.

Let me reword so I don't offend others delicate sensibilities:

If Romney won they likely would have. With Obama winning they pry have a figurative coin flip of a chance for us to aid them and for people around me to die in whatever wars they deem fit for the United States.

lol... don't stress overmuch. I just like to prod people I see expressing individualist views with collectivist language.

Watch your thoughts for they become words. Watch your words for they become actions. Watch your actions for they become... habits. Watch your habits, for they become your character. And watch your character, for it becomes your destiny! What we think we become.

(Yeah, I know... Even statists have good quotes, though.)

[Brunic]

I was talking with my mom when I saw the news on TV couple of days ago.

Me: "Hey mom, is it me or since I've been born, these countries have always been at war?"
My mom: "Don't worry, it was the same thing when I was born too."

That's when I understood that this conflict is completely ridiculous. Two bunch of idiots with missiles looking for reasons to use them.

[Charlie Prime]

It's not ridiculous.  They always light up Gaza a few months before an election.  Look at history.

[Littleshop]

It's not ridiculous.  They always light up Gaza a few months before an election.  Look at history.

Both sides want to fight.  Civilians on both sides pay the price though the civilians in Israel pay a far lower price per populous.   

[legitnick]

[dotcom]

I laughed so fucking hard