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Sorry msc_de, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
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You against me that means you against Germany.


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You were posting bunch of bullshit copied from news site, a few times is fine but so much that you got mods attention? And with this , you're probably getting a perma-ban, but well technically you are discussing your ban which should be fine.
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If your ban had an amount of time behind it and was not a perma ban, then either BadBear or theymos banned you. All of the other moderators do not have the ability to ban on a temporary basis.
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You were posting bunch of bullshit copied from news site, a few times is fine but so much that you got mods attention? And with this , you're probably getting a perma-ban, but well technically you are discussing your ban which should be fine.


 it doesnt matter what you thought or said, but if the forum support dictatorship as china , i promise you that the forum will be closed soon!!!
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It's OK. People got tired of CIA bots.
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Sorry msc_de, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
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You might think of just posting link to article instead of the whole thing.

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It's OK. People got tired of CIA bots.
What?  You can figure the CIA bots in the botswarm?  Even Tuvalo, Liechenstein, and Botswana have their own bots soldiering forth in the information gathering distortion and mis information gathering game.
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The five exercises of Falun Gong
In addition to its moral philosophy, Falun Gong consists of four standing exercises and one sitting meditation. The exercises are regarded as secondary to moral elevation, though is still an essential component of Falun Gong cultivation practice.[17][43]

The first exercises, called "Buddha Stretching a Thousand Arms", are intended to facilitate the free flow of energy through the body and open up the meridians. The second exercise, "Falun Standing Stance", involves holding four static poses—each of which resembles holding a wheel—for an extended period. The objective of this exercise is to "enhances wisdom, increases strength, raises a person's level, and strengthens divine powers". The third, "Penetrating the Cosmic Extremes", involves three sets of movements which aim to enable the expulsion of bad energy (e.g. pathogenic or black qi) and the absorption of good energy into the body. Through practice of this exercise, the practitioner aspires to cleanse and purify the body. The fourth exercise, "Falun Cosmic Orbit", seeks to circulate energy freely throughout the body. Unlike the first through fourth exercises, the fifth exercise is performed in the seated lotus position. Called "Reinforcing Supernatural Powers", it is a meditation intended to be maintained as long as possible.[44][45]

Falun Gong exercises can be practiced individually or in group settings, and can be performed for varying lengths of time in accordance with the needs and abilities of the individual practitioner.[24][46] Porter writes that practitioners of Falun Gong are encouraged to read Falun Gong books and practice its exercises on a regular basis, preferably daily.[47] Falun Gong exercises are practiced in group settings in parks, university campuses, and other public spaces in over 70 countries worldwide, and are taught for free by volunteers.[47][48] In addition to five exercises, in 2001 another meditation activity was introduced called "sending righteous thoughts," which is intended to reduce persecution on the spiritual plane.[47]

A pilot study involving genomic profiling of six Falun Dafa practitioners indicated that, "changes in gene expression of [Falun Gong] practitioners in contrast to normal healthy controls were characterized by enhanced immunity, downregulation of cellular metabolism, and alteration of apoptotic genes in favor of a rapid resolution of inflammation."[49]

In addition to the attainment of physical health, many Buddhist and Daoist meditation systems aspire to transform the physical body and cultivate a variety of supernatural capabilities (shentong), such as telepathy and divine sight.[50] Discussions of supernatural skills also feature prominently within the qigong movement, and the existence of these skills gained a level mainstream acceptance in China’s scientific community in the 1980s.[12] Falun Gong’s teachings hold that practitioners can acquire supernatural skills through a combination of moral cultivation, meditation and exercises. These include—but are not limited to—precognition, clairaudience, telepathy, and divine sight (via the opening of the third eye or celestial eye). However, Falun Gong stresses that these powers can only be developed only as a result of moral practice, and should not be pursued or casually displayed.[51] According to David Ownby, Falun Gong teaches that “Pride in one's abilities, or the desire to show off, are marks of dangerous attachments,” and Li warns his followers not to be distracted by the pursuit of such powers.[12]
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Falun Gong differentiates itself from Buddhist monastic traditions in that it places great importance on participation in the secular world. Falun Gong practitioners are required to maintain regular jobs and family lives, to observe the laws of their respective governments, and are instructed not to distance themselves from society. An exception is made for Buddhist monks and nuns, who are permitted to continue a monastic lifestyle while practicing Falun Gong.[24][52]

As part of its emphasis on ethical behavior, Falun Gong's teachings prescribe a strict personal morality for practitioners. They are expected to act truthfully, do good deeds, and conduct themselves with patience and forbearance when encountering difficulties. For instance, Li stipulates that a practitioner of Falun Gong must "not hit back when attacked, not talk back when insulted."[53] In addition, they must "abandon negative thoughts and behaviors," such as greed, deception, jealousy, etc.[24][53] The teachings contain injunctions against smoking and the consumption of alcohol, as these are considered addictions that are detrimental to health and mental clarity.[24][54][55] Practitioners of Falun Gong are forbidden to kill living things—including animals for the purpose of obtaining food—though they are not required to adopt a vegetarian diet.[53]

In addition to these things, practitioners of Falun Gong must abandon a variety of worldly attachments and desires.[31] In the course of cultivation practice, the student of Falun Gong aims to relinquish the pursuit of fame, monetary gain, sentimentality, and other entanglements. Li's teachings repeatedly emphasize the emptiness of material pursuits; although practitioners of Falun Gong are not encouraged to leave their jobs or eschew money, they are expected to give up the psychological attachments to these things.[54] Similarly, sexual desire and lust are treated as attachments to be discarded, but Falun Gong students are still generally expected to marry and have families.[54] All sexual relations outside the confines of monogamous, heterosexual marriage are regarded as immoral.[56] Although gays and lesbians may practice Falun Gong, homosexual conduct is said to generate karma, and is therefore viewed as incompatible with the goals of the practice.[57]

Falun Gong's cosmology includes the belief that different ethnicities each have a correspondence to their own heavens, and that individuals of mixed race lose some aspect of this connection.[17] Nonetheless, Li maintains that being of mixed race does not affect a person's soul, nor hinder their ability to practice cultivation.[17] The practice does not have any formal stance against interracial marriage, and many Falun Gong practitioners have interracial children.[58]

Falun Gong doctrine counsels against participation in political or social issues.[59] Excessive interest in politics is viewed as an attachment to worldly power and influence, and Falun Gong aims for transcendence of such pursuits. According to Hu Ping, "Falun Gong deals only with purifying the individual through exercise, and does not touch on social or national concerns. It has not suggested or even intimated a model for social change. Many religions ... pursue social reform to some extent ... but there is no such tendency evident in Falun Gong."[60]
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The first book of Falun Gong teachings was published in April 1993. Called China Falun Gong, or simply Falun Gong, it is an introductory text that discusses qigong, Falun Gong's relationship to Buddhism, the principles of cultivation practice and the improvement of moral character (xinxing). The book also provides illustrations and explanations of the exercises and meditation.[43][61]

The main body of teachings is articulated in the book Zhuan Falun, published in Chinese in January 1995. The book is divided into nine "lectures", and was based on edited transcriptions of the talks Li gave throughout China in the preceding three years.[62] Falun Gong texts have since been translated into an additional 40 languages.[63] In addition to these central texts, Li has published several books, lectures, articles, books of poetry, which are made available on Falun Gong websites.[64][65]

The Falun Gong teachings use numerous untranslated Chinese religious and philosophical terms, and make frequent allusion to characters and incidents in Chinese folk literature and concepts drawn from Chinese popular religion. This, coupled with the literal translation style of the texts, which imitate the colloquial style of Li's speeches, can make Falun Gong scriptures difficult to approach for Westerners.[20]

Symbols[edit]
The main symbol of the practice is the Falun (Dharma wheel, or Dharmacakra in Sanskrit). In Buddhism, the Dharmacakra represents the completeness of the doctrine. To "turn the wheel of dharma" (Zhuan Falun) means to preach the Buddhist doctrine, and is the title of Falun Gong's main text.[66] Despite the invocation of Buddhist language and symbols, the law wheel as understood in Falun Gong has distinct connotations, and is held to represent the universe.[67] It is conceptualized by an emblem consisting of one large and four small Swastika symbols, representing the Buddha, and four small Taiji (yin-yang) symbols of the Daoist tradition.[24][67]

Dharma-ending period[edit]
Li situates his teaching of Falun Gong amidst the "Dharma-ending period" (Mo Fa, 末法), described in Buddhist scriptures as an age of moral decline when the teachings of Buddhism would need to be rectified.[12][17] The current era is described in Falun Gong's teachings as the "Fa rectification" period (zhengfa, which might also be translated as "to correct the dharma"), a time of cosmic transition and renewal.[17] The process of Fa rectification is necessitated by the moral decline and degeneration of life in the universe, and in the post-1999 context, the persecution of Falun Gong by the Chinese government has come to be viewed as a tangible symptom of this moral decay.[68] Through the process of the Fa rectification, life will be reordered according to the moral and spiritual quality of each, with good people being saved and ascending to higher spiritual planes, and bad ones being eliminated or cast down.[68] In this paradigm, Li assumes the role of rectifying the Dharma by disseminating through his moral teachings.[10][17]

Some scholars, such as Maria Hsia Chang and Susan Palmer, have described Li's rhetoric about the "Fa rectification" and providing salvation "in the final period of the Last Havoc", as apocalyptic.[69][70] However, Benjamin Penny argues that Li's teachings are better understood in the context of a "Buddhist notion of the cycle of the Dharma or the Buddhist law".[71] Richard Gunde notes that unlike apocalyptic groups in the West, Falun Gong does not fixate on death or the end of the world, and instead "has a simple, innocuous ethical message".[14] Li Hongzhi does not discuss a "time of reckoning",[71] and has rejected predictions of an impending apocalypse in his teachings.[72]
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Falun Gong is a multifaceted discipline that means different things to different people, ranging from a set of physical exercises for the attainment of better health and a praxis of self-transformation, to a moral philosophy and a new knowledge system.[42] Scholars and journalists have adopted a variety of terms and classifications in describing Falun Gong, some of them more precise than others.

In the cultural context of China, Falun Gong is generally described either as a system of qigong, or a type of "cultivation practice" (xiulian). Cultivation is a Chinese term that describes the process by which an individual seeks spiritual perfection, often through both physical and moral conditioning. Varieties of cultivation practice are found throughout Chinese history, spanning Buddhist, Daoist and Confucian traditions.[17] Benjamin Penny, a professor of Chinese history at the Australian National University, writes "the best way to describe Falun Gong is as a cultivation system. Cultivation systems have been a feature of Chinese life for at least 2,500 years."[73] Qigong practices can also be understood as a part of a broader tradition of "cultivation practice".[17]

In the West, Falun Gong is frequently classified as a religion on the basis of its theological and moral teachings,[74] its concerns with spiritual cultivation and transformation, and its extensive body of scripture.[17] Human rights groups report on the persecution of Falun Gong as a violation of religious freedom, and in 2001, Falun Gong was given an International Religious Freedom Award from Freedom House.[17] Falun Gong practitioners themselves have sometimes disavowed this classification, however. This rejection reflects the relatively narrow definition of "religion" (zongjiao) in contemporary China. According to David Ownby, religion in China has been defined since 1912 to refer to "world-historical faiths" that have "well-developed institutions, clergy, and textual traditions"—namely, Buddhism, Daoism, Islam, Protestantism and Catholicism.[75] Falun Gong lacks these features, having no temples, rituals of worship, clergy or formal hierarchy. Moreover, if Falun Gong had described itself as a religion in China, it likely would have invited immediate suppression.[17] These historical and cultural circumstances notwithstanding, the practice has often been described as a form of Chinese religion.[76]

Although it is often referred to as such in journalistic literature, Falun Gong does not satisfy the definition of a "sect."[40] A sect is generally defined as a branch or denomination of an established belief system or mainstream church. Although Falun Gong draws on both Buddhist and Daoist ideas and terminology, it claims no direct relationship or lineage connection to these religions.[19][77] Sociologists regard sects as exclusive groups that exist within clearly defined boundaries, with rigorous standards for admission and strict allegiances.[78] However, as noted by Noah Porter, Falun Gong does not share these qualities: it does not have clearly defined boundaries, and anyone may practice it.[47] Cheris Shun-ching Chan likewise writes that Falun Gong is "categorically not a sect": its practitioners do not sever ties with secular society, it is "loosely structured with a fluctuating membership and tolerant of other organizations and faiths," and it is more concerned with personal, rather than collective worship.[78]
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As a matter of doctrinal significance, Falun Gong is intended to be "formless," having little to no material or formal organization. Practitioners of Falun Gong cannot collect money or charge fees, conduct healings, or teach or interpret doctrine for others.[79] There are no administrators or officials within the practice, no system of membership, and no churches or physical places of worship.[12][69][80][81] In the absence of membership or initiation rituals, Falun Gong practitioners can be anyone who chooses to identify themselves as such.[82] Students are free to participate in the practice and follow its teachings as much or as little as they like, and practitioners do not instruct others on what to believe or how to behave.[47][60][83]

Spiritual authority is vested exclusively in the teachings of founder Li Hongzhi.[79] But organizationally Falun Gong is decentralized, and local branches and assistants are afforded no special privileges, authority, or titles. Volunteer "assistants" or "contact persons" do not hold authority over other practitioners, regardless of how long they have practiced Falun Gong.[41][68] Li's spiritual authority within the practice is absolute, yet the organization of Falun Gong works against totalistic control, and Li does not intervene in the personal lives of practitioners. Falun Gong practitioners have little to no contact with Li, except through the study of his teachings.[47][68] There is no hierarchy in Falun Gong to enforce orthodoxy, and little or no emphasis is given on dogmatic discipline; the only thing emphasized is the need for strict moral behavior, according to Craig Burgdoff, a professor of religious studies.[68]

To the extent that organization is achieved in Falun Gong, it is accomplished through a global, networked, and largely virtual online community. In particular, electronic communications, email lists and a collection of websites are the primary means of coordinating activities and disseminating Li Hongzhi's teachings.[84]

Outside Mainland China, a network of volunteer 'contact persons', regional Falun Dafa Associations and university clubs exist in approximately 70 countries.[85] Li Hongzhi's teachings are principally spread through the Internet.[69][86] In most mid- to large-sized cities, Falun Gong practitioners organize regular group meditation or study sessions in which they practice Falun Gong exercises and read Li Hongzhi's writings. The exercise and meditation sessions are described as informal groups of practitioners who gather in public parks—usually in the morning—for one to two hours.[47][69][87] Group study sessions typically take place in the evenings in private residences or university or high school classrooms, and are described by David Ownby as "the closest thing to a regular 'congregational experience'" that Falun Gong offers.[46] Individuals who are too busy, isolated, or who simply prefer solitude may elect to practice privately.[46] When there are expenses to be covered (such as for the rental of facilities for large-scale conferences), costs are borne by self-nominated and relatively affluent individual members of the community.[46][88]
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Morning Falun Dafa Exercises, in Guangzhou.
In 1993, the Beijing-based Falun Dafa Research Society was accepted as a branch of the state-run China Qigong Research Society (CQRS), which oversaw the administration of the country's various qigong schools, and sponsored activities and seminars. As per the requirements of the CQRS, Falun Gong was organized into a nationwide network of assistance centers, "main stations", "branches", "guidance stations", and local practice sites, mirroring the structure of the qigong society or even of the Communist Party itself.[81][89] Falun Gong assistants were self-selecting volunteers who taught the exercises, organized events, and disseminated new writings from Li Hongzhi. The Falun Dafa Research Society provided advice to students on meditation techniques, translation services, and coordination for the practice nationwide.[81]

Following its departure from the CQRS in 1996, Falun Gong came under increased scrutiny from authorities and responded by adopting a more decentralized and loose organizational structure.[47] In 1997, the Falun Dafa Research Society was formally dissolved, along with the regional "main stations."[90] Yet practitioners continued to organize themselves at local levels, being connected through electronic communications, interpersonal networks and group exercise sites.[47][91] Both Falun Gong sources and Chinese government sources claimed that there were some 1,900 "guidance stations" and 28,263 local Falun Gong exercise sites nationwide by 1999, though they disagree over the extent of vertical coordination among these organizational units.[92] In response to the persecution that began in 1999, Falun Gong was driven underground, the organizational structure grew yet more informal within China, and the internet took precedence as a means of connecting practitioners.[93]

Following the persecution of Falun Gong in 1999, Chinese authorities sought to portray Falun Gong as a hierarchical and well-funded organization. James Tong writes that it was in the government's interest to portray Falun Gong as highly organized in order to justify its repression of the group: "The more organized the Falun Gong could be shown to be, then the more justified the regime's repression in the name of social order was."[94] He concluded that Party's claims lacked "both internal and external substantiating evidence", and that despite the arrests and scrutiny, the authorities never "credibly countered Falun Gong rebuttals".[95]
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Prior to July 1999, official estimates placed the number of Falun Gong practitioners at 70 million nationwide, rivaling membership in the Communist Party.[1][96][97][98][99] By the time of the persecution on 22 July 1999, most Chinese government numbers said the population of Falun Gong was between 2 and 3 million,[91][100] though some publications maintained an estimate of 40 million.[81][101] Most Falun Gong estimates in the same period placed the total number of practitioners in China at 70 to 80 million.[20][81][102] Other sources have estimated the Falun Gong population in China to have peaked between 10 and 70 million practitioners.[103][104] The number of Falun Gong practitioners still practicing in China today is difficult to confirm, though some sources estimate that tens of millions continue to practice privately.[6][7]

Demographic surveys conducted in China in 1998 found a population that was mostly female and elderly. Of 34,351 Falun Gong practitioners surveyed, 27% were male and 73% female. Only 38% were under 50 years old.[105] Falun Gong attracted a range of other individuals, from young college students to bureaucrats, intellectuals and Party officials.[106][107] Surveys in China from the 1990s found that between 23% - 40% of practitioners held university degrees at the college or graduate level—several times higher than the general population.[47]

Falun Gong is practiced by tens, and possibly hundreds of thousands outside China,[9] with the largest communities found in Taiwan and North American cities with large Chinese populations, such as New York and Toronto. Demographic surveys by Palmer and Ownby in these communities found that 90% of practitioners are ethnic Chinese. The average age was approximately 40.[108] Among survey respondents, 56% were female and 44% male; 80% were married. The surveys found the respondents to be highly educated: 9% held PhDs, 34% had master's degrees, and 24% had a bachelor's degree.[108]

The most commonly reported reasons for being attracted to Falun Gong were intellectual content, cultivation exercises, and health benefits.[109] Non-Chinese Falun Gong practitioners tend to fit the profile of "spiritual seekers"—people who had tried a variety of qigong, yoga, or religious practices before finding Falun Gong. According to Richard Madsen, Chinese scientists with doctorates from prestigious American universities who practice Falun Gong claim that modern physics (for example, superstring theory) and biology (specifically the pineal gland's function) provide a scientific basis for their beliefs. From their point of view, "Falun Dafa is knowledge rather than religion, a new form of science rather than faith."[74]
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Yeah, you made 20 posts similar to this one, each with a different section of a wikipedia page. Have you thought of just posting the link rather than copying the entire article verbatim?

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Have you learned nothing? You're doing it again. Unless you have to (eg. you can't link it or something), don't post stuff verbatim. In both cases you should provide context by adding your own text. Postings that are just copy pasta or just a link are liable to being deleted.

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December 01, 2015, 03:56:51 AM
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You were posting bunch of bullshit copied from news site, a few times is fine but so much that you got mods attention? And with this , you're probably getting a perma-ban, but well technically you are discussing your ban which should be fine.
+1. As i can see through translater, most of his 60 latest posts is copy-paste about religion, posts about annoying phone calls and about politics, and other off topic crap. All in one section "离题万里" (obviously special section to talk about everything not related to bitcoin and cryptocurrency).
msc_de, why do you copy the same things in the section about politics? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1249292.msg13115817#msg13115817). *facepalm*
You know that this is a forum about cryptocurrency?

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December 01, 2015, 07:52:11 AM
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Looking though all the posts and I fell sleep seeing 8 pages and so on all about none crypto. Fair play maybe a bit of it using your own words about what you are posting but 9/10 you are just copy pasting of wiki and new and other areas. All you are doing is duplicating peoples hard work, this is classed as Plagiarism.

So you say you support freedom and democracy by uploading articles here? At least wright your own stuff, than copying other peoples work. You say people are against you and Germany sounds a bit racial commenting and speaking of such words. Going though a lot of your posts and comments you are posting a lot of stuff around china yet you do not post anything about your own country or different areas. Any reason why so one sided? Thought freedom and democracy was totally the opposite than being on sided. Am all for your findings and support what you are trying to do but at least post stuff that is your own. Maybe start your own topics with your own findings and wright own work, why not become a freedom reporter. Would make sense than to just copy paste post and then get marked as a spammer.

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If you're looking for a permaban, you're going in the right direction. Good riddance, I say.
Looks like the 5 day one was a mistake. I understand a lot of things; trying to attack the moderators or forum because of your own mistakes, I can not.

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If you're looking for a permaban, you're going in the right direction. Good riddance, I say.
agreed, i stopped browsing the p&s section for a few days because it was being flooded with this type of copy paste shit, zero discussion going on. hopefully that vika nsfw user was banned too, nothing but copy+paste and refusal to add anything of their own in that huge thread.

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If you're looking for a permaban, you're going in the right direction. Good riddance, I say.
agreed, i stopped browsing the p&s section for a few days because it was being flooded with this type of copy paste shit, zero discussion going on. hopefully that vika nsfw user was banned too, nothing but copy+paste and refusal to add anything of their own in that huge thread.


vika nsfw is chinese 610 office member, i am not


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You can always give an appeal.


It was only a five day waiting period anyway.
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dont push me using state power close your forum if some of moderators or the administration members of forum support dictatorship..
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