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September 02, 2016, 02:35:26 PM
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Why am I not able to change the client seed without changing the server seed also? This is not provably fair. I need to be able to edit my client seed before every bet, otherwise I am at a risk that you pick a seed that will have a higher probability of me losing with a given client seed. Betking, the biggest btc gambling site, lets users change seeds at any point. I am willing to believe that you have simply overlooked this aspect and there is nothing evil going on, but you should change this asap.
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September 02, 2016, 04:07:39 PM
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Why am I not able to change the client seed without changing the server seed also? This is not provably fair. I need to be able to edit my client seed before every bet, otherwise I am at a risk that you pick a seed that will have a higher probability of me losing with a given client seed. Betking, the biggest btc gambling site, lets users change seeds at any point. I am willing to believe that you have simply overlooked this aspect and there is nothing evil going on, but you should change this asap.

Hello sir,

We use the same provably fair system as other dice websites like Primedice for example. So they are not provably fair? I sent your request to the dev team. I don't see any problem to add it if you think it's better.

Thanks,
William

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September 02, 2016, 07:05:09 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2016, 07:33:43 PM by DarkStar_
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Why am I not able to change the client seed without changing the server seed also? This is not provably fair. I need to be able to edit my client seed before every bet, otherwise I am at a risk that you pick a seed that will have a higher probability of me losing with a given client seed. Betking, the biggest btc gambling site, lets users change seeds at any point. I am willing to believe that you have simply overlooked this aspect and there is nothing evil going on, but you should change this asap.

Hello sir,

We use the same provably fair system as other dice websites like Primedice for example. So they are not provably fair? I sent your request to the dev team. I don't see any problem to add it if you think it's better.

Thanks,
William
I think you made an error copying their provably fair system. Betking.io and Primedice let you change the client seed whenever you want, without changing the server seed. I don't really think this is a problem though, but it would be good to have it. rambeazle, it would be a horrible plan to pick a client +server seed to make you more likely to lose, by either getting more high numbers when you bet on low, or more low numbers when you bet on high. Why? Someone might figure this out, and keep betting on the one the seed is more likely to give, and make some safe and easy profit.


If your so worried about that rambeazle, pick the opposite of what you would normally pick (hi/lo). You would have a higher probability of you winning, unless your saying that they predicted you would do that, and make the opposite more likely to win?

Edit: Primedice doesn't let you.

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September 02, 2016, 07:33:22 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2016, 08:05:40 PM by Baryom
 #1444

Why am I not able to change the client seed without changing the server seed also? This is not provably fair. I need to be able to edit my client seed before every bet, otherwise I am at a risk that you pick a seed that will have a higher probability of me losing with a given client seed. Betking, the biggest btc gambling site, lets users change seeds at any point. I am willing to believe that you have simply overlooked this aspect and there is nothing evil going on, but you should change this asap.

Hello sir,

We use the same provably fair system as other dice websites like Primedice for example. So they are not provably fair? I sent your request to the dev team. I don't see any problem to add it if you think it's better.

Thanks,
William
I think you made an error copying their provably fair system. Betking.io and Primedice let you change the client seed whenever you want, without changing the server seed. I don't really think this is a problem though, but it would be good to have it. rambeazle, it would be a horrible plan to pick a client +server seed to make you more likely to lose, by either getting more high numbers when you bet on low, or more low numbers when you bet on high. Why? Someone might figure this out, and keep betting on the one the seed is more likely to give, and make some safe and easy profit.


If your so worried about that rambeazle, pick the opposite of what you would normally pick (hi/lo). You would have a higher probability of you winning, unless your saying that they predicted you would do that, and make the opposite more likely to win?

Hello,

I tried on primedice and it is not possible to change your client seed without changing the server seed. So we have the same provably fair system.(and it seems to be the same provably fair system on Rollin, fastdice etc.)  If you know how to do it, lemme know. I sent your request to the dev team as I already told. I don't mind changing it if the players prefer it. But I think that the primedice provably fair system must be the best. They are number 1 on the market.

Thanks,
William

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September 02, 2016, 07:35:10 PM
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Why am I not able to change the client seed without changing the server seed also? This is not provably fair. I need to be able to edit my client seed before every bet, otherwise I am at a risk that you pick a seed that will have a higher probability of me losing with a given client seed. Betking, the biggest btc gambling site, lets users change seeds at any point. I am willing to believe that you have simply overlooked this aspect and there is nothing evil going on, but you should change this asap.

Hello sir,

We use the same provably fair system as other dice websites like Primedice for example. So they are not provably fair? I sent your request to the dev team. I don't see any problem to add it if you think it's better.

Thanks,
William
I think you made an error copying their provably fair system. Betking.io and Primedice let you change the client seed whenever you want, without changing the server seed. I don't really think this is a problem though, but it would be good to have it. rambeazle, it would be a horrible plan to pick a client +server seed to make you more likely to lose, by either getting more high numbers when you bet on low, or more low numbers when you bet on high. Why? Someone might figure this out, and keep betting on the one the seed is more likely to give, and make some safe and easy profit.


If your so worried about that rambeazle, pick the opposite of what you would normally pick (hi/lo). You would have a higher probability of you winning, unless your saying that they predicted you would do that, and make the opposite more likely to win?

Edit: Primedice doesn't let you.

Fair enough. I just think that if they want to be transparent to a maximum extent, they should allow for the changing of the seed. It would put new players at ease and would cost them nothing, as it is an industry best practice anyway (see betking).
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Last edit: September 05, 2016, 01:24:06 AM by Baryom
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EDIT : We are open Smiley but we are still working on the bet speed.

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September 09, 2016, 10:31:40 AM
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Hi,
I Liked playing at bitsler the other day. It has many plus advantages over other sites.

I was wondering is there a 3rd party website/tool to verify my bets?
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I was wondering is there a 3rd party website/tool to verify my bets?

As far as I know, there is no 3rd party verifier to verify your bets on bitsler, perhaps you may ask NLNico to add bitsler on his sites (dicesites.com) but I think there are some requirements for a site to be added on his site such as wagering amount.

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September 09, 2016, 11:40:53 AM
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I was wondering is there a 3rd party website/tool to verify my bets?

As far as I know, there is no 3rd party verifier to verify your bets on bitsler, perhaps you may ask NLNico to add bitsler on his sites (dicesites.com) but I think there are some requirements for a site to be added on his site such as wagering amount.

I already checked his thread, he won't add it untill the wagered amount is public and perhaps the bankroll.
I did requested just a verifier today, so who knows. Smiley

EDIT: Seuntjie explained his verifier in his bot for me and it worked, I'm very glad with his help.
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I was wondering is there a 3rd party website/tool to verify my bets?

As far as I know, there is no 3rd party verifier to verify your bets on bitsler, perhaps you may ask NLNico to add bitsler on his sites (dicesites.com) but I think there are some requirements for a site to be added on his site such as wagering amount.

I already checked his thread, he won't add it untill the wagered amount is public and perhaps the bankroll.
I did requested just a verifier today, so who knows. Smiley

EDIT: Seuntjie explained his verifier in his bot for me and it worked, I'm very glad with his help.

To anyone interested, this is the above mentioned post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425.msg16198826#msg16198826

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Why am I not able to change the client seed without changing the server seed also? This is not provably fair. I need to be able to edit my client seed before every bet, otherwise I am at a risk that you pick a seed that will have a higher probability of me losing with a given client seed. Betking, the biggest btc gambling site, lets users change seeds at any point. I am willing to believe that you have simply overlooked this aspect and there is nothing evil going on, but you should change this asap.

Hello sir,

We use the same provably fair system as other dice websites like Primedice for example. So they are not provably fair? I sent your request to the dev team. I don't see any problem to add it if you think it's better.

Thanks,
William
I think you made an error copying their provably fair system. Betking.io and Primedice let you change the client seed whenever you want, without changing the server seed. I don't really think this is a problem though, but it would be good to have it. rambeazle, it would be a horrible plan to pick a client +server seed to make you more likely to lose, by either getting more high numbers when you bet on low, or more low numbers when you bet on high. Why? Someone might figure this out, and keep betting on the one the seed is more likely to give, and make some safe and easy profit.


If your so worried about that rambeazle, pick the opposite of what you would normally pick (hi/lo). You would have a higher probability of you winning, unless your saying that they predicted you would do that, and make the opposite more likely to win?

Edit: Primedice doesn't let you.

Fair enough. I just think that if they want to be transparent to a maximum extent, they should allow for the changing of the seed. It would put new players at ease and would cost them nothing, as it is an industry best practice anyway (see betking).

rambeazle,
IMO, you are EXACTLY CORRECT in your thinking and inquiry to "prove" the validity of the transparency claim.
The "pick the opposite of what you would normally pick (hi/lo). You would have a higher probability of you winning, unless your saying that they predicted you would do that, and make the opposite more likely to win?" comment makes ZERO SENSE! It doesn't matter what you "pick" when the server is still going to return whatever it wants... the same problem as the first bet/choice...
Anyhow, your recommendation to allow the client side seed to be changed... BRAVO! PERFECT!
And to the site owner or representative here... yes... push for this HARD... if it does not happen then all claims of "provable" are just that... claims and NOT "proof".
Something was mentioned about "doing what the biggest site is doing"... that is horrible thinking... one of the main parts of a successful business/website/service is how it DOES THINGS DIFFERENTLY and that HAVE NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE... think about that and DO THE RIGHT THING... that is, of course, IF you actually ARE "fair"... PROVE IT with TRUE transparency... F "the other guys" and what they do... it is not enough but YOU have a chance to DO ENOUGH!!!
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Congratulations to "mariowiggins" who won the progressive jackpot : 0.89674997  BTC









WOW never thought someone will do that (100% of jackpot) , but well congratulations to "mariowiggins"
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Last edit: September 15, 2016, 01:37:30 AM by mixan
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Looking forward into trying out the site once i get some funds in my account.
Hopefully I can withdraw them into Ethereum so i can start to use those instead. Have been waiting a long time to start a little cache of those alt coins. Grin

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still not online? Smiley cant wait to play again Wink

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ETA until it is back up?
Down for way too long!
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Last edit: September 16, 2016, 03:04:07 AM by Baryom
 #1458

Hello,

We are still working on the update. I Will let you know asap.

William

Edit : still working on it.

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how much longer?
days? hours? weeks? minutes?

Hello,

We are still working on the update. I Will let you know asap.

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September 16, 2016, 04:06:25 AM
Last edit: September 16, 2016, 03:19:56 PM by Baryom
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We are open ! Multicolor is back with a 7 BTC jackpot



EDIT : We have to close the website for another update. We will be back within 8 hours. The dev team is working hard ! Thanks for understanding.

Thanks

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