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December 03, 2015, 07:43:19 PM |
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The maintenance for the ATM could be more expensive and that's why the number of these is not high.
In many countries bitcoin is illegal to use so this maybe can stop this journey.
The fees aren't same as in online exchanges, also it isn't anymore anonymous because there should be security cameras near the ATM
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December 04, 2015, 01:50:36 AM |
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In many countries, there is strict regulations with Bitcoins. It is not easy to get a permit, Taiwan did not have a Bitcoin ATM due to this reason. The machine itself would cost around $1000+. With the low adoption rates, it is highly impossible for the owners to make any profit if they do not already have a land space or placed it at areas with low human traffic. Exchanges are much more convenient for most users since it only requires the transfer of money from bank account.
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December 04, 2015, 02:13:31 AM |
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Well, what's the main use of bitcoin at the moment? Online stuff--dark and clear markets. In the community where an ATM would be, cash is king not bitcoin and so they're just not necessary.
Whoever it was who said bitcoin is a solution in search of a problem was right. Still, I'd use a bitcoin ATM if I could find one and if the fees were fair.
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December 04, 2015, 02:29:33 AM |
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Theres really have bitcoin atm out there?? I never thought that have atm for bitcoin. In my country i believe they doesn't had it yet. Maybe just few atm in this world?
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December 04, 2015, 02:52:26 AM |
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IMO bitcoin adoption hasn't reached to a level that bitcoin ATM can make a profit except some populated area. When bitcoin is recognized by majority, bitcoin ATM will be like the bank ATM one day.
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December 04, 2015, 03:01:53 AM |
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I really thought this time last year that we would have a lot more bitcoin ATM machines. There is so many people on localbitcoin especailly in certain areas. I just really thought I would see more in heavily populated areas. Why do you guys think there isn't many out there still? I know the one I saw in California had ridiculous fee's but I think people still used it a lot.
In all honesty, I blame Satoshi. Yes, he's a genius. And yes, he invented bitcoin! But Christopher Jones didn't jump overboard and pu$$y out during the Mayflower's voyage. And I believe the Crypto that will eventually make inroads into the mainstream will have a strong and courageous developer. Someone that's tough, intelligent, brave, and bold.
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bitbaby
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December 04, 2015, 03:12:00 AM |
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The maintenance for the ATM could be more expensive and that's why the number of these is not high.
In many countries bitcoin is illegal to use so this maybe can stop this journey.
The fees aren't same as in online exchanges, also it isn't anymore anonymous because there should be security cameras near the ATM
I agree, I think in many countries legality and security is a big concern which is why the companies are not eager to set up BTC ATMs. I don't have a problem with ATMs charging a little extra fee as they do provide convenience even if they lack to provide any anonymity but if we're to take Bitcoin mainstream, I think we'll have to give up that.
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December 04, 2015, 03:13:54 AM |
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I was wondering the same thing. It's either because of government issues with the bitcoins, and not many people in the whole population uses it. It costs money to install too.
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December 04, 2015, 03:19:22 AM |
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the bitcoin debit cards themselves are becoming more popular. I think these may make Bitcoin ATM's obsolete
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December 04, 2015, 03:21:38 AM |
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I was wondering the same thing. It's either because of government issues with the bitcoins, and not many people in the whole population uses it. It costs money to install too.
No one on this Flat Earth is going to take a currency seriously that has developers at odds with each other. That's the problem today. The core developers are acting like a bunch of spoiled kids on a playground. Don't fool yourselves into believing that the rest of the world can't see that. Yes, cryptocurrencies will replace traditional fiat, but it won't be the original crypto that gets it done. Never in history has the contestant with first-mover advantage prevailed long-term. Just ask altavista or the webcrawler.
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CoinBateman
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December 04, 2015, 03:25:11 AM |
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I was wondering the same thing. It's either because of government issues with the bitcoins, and not many people in the whole population uses it. It costs money to install too.
No one on this Flat Earth is going to take a currency seriously that has developers at odds with each other. That's the problem today. The core developers are acting like a bunch of spoiled kids on a playground. Don't fool yourselves into believing that the rest of the world can't see that. Yes, cryptocurrencies will replace traditional fiat, but it won't be the original crypto that gets it done. Never in history has the contestant with first-mover advantage prevailed. Just ask altavista or the webcrawler. Fiat has replaced Gold as a medium of exchange. Doesn't mean gold has lost value over time has it ?
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December 04, 2015, 03:41:22 AM |
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Huge, massive fees and all that info you have to hand over, I would never use one.
wow lots of great answers. I have heard the fees are massive but didnt realize you had to put in so much private info. Seems crazy to have to put in so much info to use an ATM. I mean they get money and give you btc I dont understand why this cant be streamlined. I mainly asked the question because a lot of my friends would take bitcoin more seriously if there were more atms also. It gives it a more stable look and a form of free advertising
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December 04, 2015, 05:30:53 AM |
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Because the buy/sell spreads are huge (10% is common), there are substantial fees, the machines cost far more than standard ATMs, and the companies behind them provide lousy support or go out of business.
Robocoin stopped selling real Bitcoins and started selling access to Bitcoins via their "hosted wallet". "Hosted wallets" have a terrible track record. You don't own the Bitcoins, the wallet company does. They just owe them to you.
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December 04, 2015, 06:10:25 AM |
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I should say, Bitcoin Vending machines would be a better investment in countries where the regulations are less intense, because the regulations and the effort people have to go through at a Bitcoin ATM, would chase away customers. They are used to much less complicated Fiat ATM's and the Bitcoin ATM's is just too much effort.
Once again governments are putting stumbling blocks in the path of Bitcoin's progress. ^hmmm^
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December 04, 2015, 06:36:55 AM |
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I guess tight regulations in many countries llike India is preventing Bitcoin ATM adoption
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December 04, 2015, 08:27:05 AM |
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I was wondering the same thing. It's either because of government issues with the bitcoins, and not many people in the whole population uses it. It costs money to install too.
No one on this Flat Earth is going to take a currency seriously that has developers at odds with each other. That's the problem today. The core developers are acting like a bunch of spoiled kids on a playground. Don't fool yourselves into believing that the rest of the world can't see that. Yes, cryptocurrencies will replace traditional fiat, but it won't be the original crypto that gets it done. Never in history has the contestant with first-mover advantage prevailed. Just ask altavista or the webcrawler. Fiat has replaced Gold as a medium of exchange. Doesn't mean gold has lost value over time has it ? but it did not increased either, it stuck there at 1k since age, and still need to top its last ath, which was above 2k a similar scenario can happen in the future with bitcoin, reaching for example 1200 again and remian there until the fee era or simply die..
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December 04, 2015, 09:10:45 AM |
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Huge, massive fees and all that info you have to hand over, I would never use one.
wow lots of great answers. I have heard the fees are massive but didnt realize you had to put in so much private info. Seems crazy to have to put in so much info to use an ATM. I mean they get money and give you btc I dont understand why this cant be streamlined. I mainly asked the question because a lot of my friends would take bitcoin more seriously if there were more atms also. It gives it a more stable look and a form of free advertising You do need to provide your driver's license for scanning and that's pretty much it. Exchanges requires more information and time to process it. KYC/AML policies require ATM operators to report suspicious transactions and hence they need IDs. In my country, the Lamassu ATM did not require any verification mainly because they don't deal with large amounts. ATMs are rare and they are hence quite expensive.
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December 04, 2015, 09:16:49 AM |
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i think ATM provider just still seeing what will happen next, and after some site provide bitcoin debit card (which is really good for bitcoin to be popular) , probably they will provide and adding few atm around the world, im really waiting this to be happen in my country, but the provider must take care of it
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December 04, 2015, 09:25:31 AM |
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The cost of bitcoin ATM is still much higher than buying from exchanges directly. If you are frequent trader, it is better to buy directly.
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