Greetings from the new 🌟🌟MoneyPot🌟🌟 staff

[MillionsBTCdev]

Total stats is just a simple number. I cannot imagine it can bring any problem for "keeping the books orderly". Just keep the old stats in mind for administrative purposes and obv summing up all bets will lack the old stats (but isn't a problem if you keep it in mind.)

The advantage of merging the old stats is that it shows the MP apps are popular already. I assume Ryan could give the total app stats since it's not privacy sensitive and it's even still on: https://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json

But up to you guys of course

Just for the sake of discussion, why cant you just take the record from http://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json then add or merge it with http://moneypot.com/full-stats.json ?  This way you still have the old stats plus the new ones.Like jpr said its gonna take extra advertising again just to be able to reach your list. And it means alot for an app owner to be on the list of a bitcoin gambling directory site.. This gives extra exposure for the apps.

[NLNico]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.





Anyway, best of luck to new MP team. The transition seemed to be smooth to me and site is running fine with some decent wagered already. So that's a good start

[JackpotRacer]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

[JackpotRacer]

If any players cant find the link for their favorite apps. I made a simple list of all apps that most probably active or has traffic before.

https://uni-games.com/mpapplist.php


-uni

thanks for posting this list. very helpful

btw your site is another dice site but I have to say it is a very nice one

good luck

[NLNico]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Because they are the only site listed on my homepage. The homepage is a list of most popular dice sites that have been around for a decent while. In general this means a couple thousand wagered and ideally like ~100+ BTC wagered per week. There were some MP dice sites like InvestDice who had some nice wagered, but this was mostly from 1 player and not very consistent, so I wouldn't qualify it as "one of most popular dice sites". I am still considering "Dust Dice" and others but they have some real slow times too.

Besides that, your sites aren't dice sites, so wouldn't be very good for the homepage of a "dice sites" site

TBH that MP page is mostly meant for investors, so it's not really optimized for players.

[MillionsBTCdev]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.





Anyway, best of luck to new MP team. The transition seemed to be smooth to me and site is running fine with some wagered already. So that's a good start

Yes i hope they do merge it. Like you said it openly available on the link given, so they wont need ryan's approval on it. Ive also requested ryan to get a dump of the list of bets on my app just for future reference since this is also no longer available on the new stats.

If any players cant find the link for their favorite apps. I made a simple list of all apps that most probably active or has traffic before.

https://uni-games.com/mpapplist.php


-uni

thanks for posting this list. very helpful

btw your site is another dice site but I have to say it is a very nice one

good luck

Thanks, even if im 'flying solo' i try my best to improve it.

[BetterBets.io]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Jpr hello we have a banner because we provided several variations of logos. We have advantages in our player reach because we spent thousands of euro and hundreds of man hours marketing. We weren't given advantages we did it all ourselves. I think your impression of us is that we have been given advantages over other sites. Let me tell you personally, everything we have ,we have worked hard for. I personally contacted every 3rd party site we are listed on and made arrangements with these people. You need to stop thinking betterbets.io had it easy because we didn't. We were just the first team with previous experience in our respected fields to launch a casino in a long time.

-Bjorn

[JackpotRacer]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Jpr hello we have a banner because we provided several variations of logos. We have advantages in our player reach because we spent thousands of euro and hundreds of man hours marketing. We weren't given advantages we did it all ourselves. I think your impression of us is that we have been given advantages over other sites. Let me tell you personally, everything we have ,we have worked hard for. I personally contacted every 3rd party site we are listed on and made arrangements with these people. You need to stop thinking betterbets.io had it easy because we didn't. We were just the first team with previous experience in our respected fields to launch a casino in a long time.

-Bjorn

hey Bjorn

what happened to you? why are you attacking me? lol because everyone is doing it?

I asked Nico a legit question and he was so nice to answer it with a very logic explanation.

what is your problem? that you have spend thousands of euro and many hours that was your decision and your risk

I never thought that you had it easy and you still don't have it easy and I know exactly what your mistake was and I am sure you know it also but I  will not discuss this matter in public.

I always said in public that betterbets is the flagship app of MP and a very nice team. and in general I mean what I am saying and if I had something to say regarding betterbets I would say it.

Happy Holidays and good luck

[moneypot]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.


Anyway, best of luck to new MP team. The transition seemed to be smooth to me and site is running fine with some decent wagered already. So that's a good start

Total stats is just a simple number. I cannot imagine it can bring any problem for "keeping the books orderly". Just keep the old stats in mind for administrative purposes and obv summing up all bets will lack the old stats (but isn't a problem if you keep it in mind.)

The advantage of merging the old stats is that it shows the MP apps are popular already. I assume Ryan could give the total app stats since it's not privacy sensitive and it's even still on: https://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json

But up to you guys of course

Just for the sake of discussion, why cant you just take the record from http://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json then add or merge it with http://moneypot.com/full-stats.json ?  This way you still have the old stats plus the new ones.Like jpr said its gonna take extra advertising again just to be able to reach your list. And it means alot for an app owner to be on the list of a bitcoin gambling directory site.. This gives extra exposure for the apps.

We are going forward with clean stats for a few reasons. One of them is transparency. While MoneyPot transacted over 45k in BTC, and we believe we will be able to surpass that, its misleading to have those figures posted for investors, as it doesn't reflect the current site. Another is we will be using site statistics to determine placement on featured apps (more information will be made available within the coming week).

You are welcome to use the old stats if you would like, but the official MP stats will represent what has been done since we started running the site.

[Buziss]

I don't seem to find the new cold wallet address for MP, would you mind showing us your address(es) and updating the proof-of-assets.txt (it is still showing the old Ryan's address) ?

[NLNico]

Okay yeh, I agree for investors that is fair, so that is indeed a good reason.

Actually I have even considered "hiding" BB/MP from my site since technically I should qualify it as "new site" :X But at this point I will probably merge the stats and perhaps add some kind of notice that MP has new owners.



BTW, do you guys have already a public cold address? Also I am personally wondering who is (or will be) holding the cold wallet?

[BetterBets.io]

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Jpr hello we have a banner because we provided several variations of logos. We have advantages in our player reach because we spent thousands of euro and hundreds of man hours marketing. We weren't given advantages we did it all ourselves. I think your impression of us is that we have been given advantages over other sites. Let me tell you personally, everything we have ,we have worked hard for. I personally contacted every 3rd party site we are listed on and made arrangements with these people. You need to stop thinking betterbets.io had it easy because we didn't. We were just the first team with previous experience in our respected fields to launch a casino in a long time.

-Bjorn

hey Bjorn

what happened to you? why are you attacking me? lol because everyone is doing it?

I asked Nico a legit question and he was so nice to answer it with a very logic explanation.

what is your problem? that you have spend thousands of euro and many hours that was your decision and your risk

I never thought that you had it easy and you still don't have it easy and I know exactly what your mistake was and I am sure you know it also but I  will not discuss this matter in public.

I always said in public that betterbets is the flagship app of MP and a very nice team. and in general I mean what I am saying and if I had something to say regarding betterbets I would say it.

Happy Holidays and good luck

The reason I'm saying anything to you is because you have written several times on how you feel your site wasn't given attention or that you had some kind of disadvantage.  If you want attention then you have to effectively market. You have to market very hard this is a niche market and has (compared to fiat casinos) a tiny player base.  The obligation to gain attention rests on you alone.
Your posts indicate that some sites seemed to get special treatment when in reality every site was treated the same. Anyway you are entitled to your own opinion but I think if you want to succeed it's best to focus energy on self promotion and eliminate negative posts.

My post wasn't an attack either but more of an informative narrative to explain why certain sites have detailed logos and info of BetterBets.

[JackpotRacer]

[quote author=BetterBets.io link=topic=1274857.msg13356116#msg13356116

The reason I'm saying anything to you is because you have written several times on how you feel your site wasn't given attention or that you had some kind of disadvantage.  If you want attention then you have to effectively market. You have to market very hard this is a niche market and has (compared to fiat casinos) a tiny player base.  The obligation to gain attention rests on you alone.
Your posts indicate that some sites seemed to get special treatment when in reality every site was treated the same. Anyway you are entitled to your own opinion but I think if you want to succeed it's best to focus energy on self promotion and eliminate negative posts.
[/quote]

yes I have written several times that there were some apps who got a preferred treatment and it is just not fair. and I say it again. glad we have a new owner of MP and hopefully it will be handled differently.

very funny that we had never BB in mind regarding preferred treatment but some other app owners. but you jumped very hard and to be frank I didn't like it.

you want to give us tips how to succeed? that must be a joke because you are selling your site and not we! it is not the money you invest for promos it is the kind of promos you do. and you did all wrong in our opinion. and the result is that you gave up and trying to sell BB.

though very sad because BB is a very good dice app and had a very good chance to succeed but you guys did all wrong that someone can do wrong. and BTC gambling is not a niche market as you are describing it and there are many sites out there that telling us otherwise.

the niche is MP and MP needs time and I am sure that if MP is in the right hands it will be the best business idea in the gambling niche and it does not matter if you or we are still alive and a part of it.

to be frank you guys should have been a part of the new MP team, and it was not expensive at all ( I dont know the price but I know the starting bid).

regarding negative posts it is the point of view from where you are looking at it. the truth always hurts and I will do my best to give my  straight forward opinion. the guys in the featured list were never eager to jump in to help me when I posted my view regarding the featured list. even you didnt see a reason to change it. but I know some app owners who said JPR is right we need a fair handling for all app owners. ask your Mod yahoo for example if he would like to be featured?

[moneypot]

Okay yeh, I agree for investors that is fair, so that is indeed a good reason.

Actually I have even considered "hiding" BB/MP from my site since technically I should qualify it as "new site" :X But at this point I will probably merge the stats and perhaps add some kind of notice that MP has new owners.



BTW, do you guys have already a public cold address? Also I am personally wondering who is (or will be) holding the cold wallet?

Our cold address:
1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5

(https://blockchain.info/address/1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5)



Our hot wallet contains an ample amount of Bitcoin to ensure speedy withdrawals.

[yahoo62278]

[quote author=BetterBets.io link=topic=1274857.msg13356116#msg13356116

The reason I'm saying anything to you is because you have written several times on how you feel your site wasn't given attention or that you had some kind of disadvantage.  If you want attention then you have to effectively market. You have to market very hard this is a niche market and has (compared to fiat casinos) a tiny player base.  The obligation to gain attention rests on you alone.
Your posts indicate that some sites seemed to get special treatment when in reality every site was treated the same. Anyway you are entitled to your own opinion but I think if you want to succeed it's best to focus energy on self promotion and eliminate negative posts.

yes I have written several times that there were some apps who got a preferred treatment and it is just not fair. and I say it again. glad we have a new owner of MP and hopefully it will be handled differently.

very funny that we had never BB in mind regarding preferred treatment but some other app owners. but you jumped very hard and to be frank I didn't like it.

you want to give us tips how to succeed? that must be a joke because you are selling your site and not we! it is not the money you invest for promos it is the kind of promos you do. and you did all wrong in our opinion. and the result is that you gave up and trying to sell BB.

though very sad because BB is a very good dice app and had a very good chance to succeed but you guys did all wrong that someone can do wrong. and BTC gambling is not a niche market as you are describing it and there are many sites out there that telling us otherwise.

the niche is MP and MP needs time and I am sure that if MP is in the right hands it will be the best business idea in the gambling niche and it does not matter if you or we are still alive and a part of it.

to be frank you guys should have been a part of the new MP team, and it was not expensive at all ( I dont know the price but I know the starting bid).

regarding negative posts it is the point of view from where you are looking at it. the truth always hurts and I will do my best to give my  straight forward opinion. the guys in the featured list were never eager to jump in to help me when I posted my view regarding the featured list. even you didnt see a reason to change it. but I know some app owners who said JPR is right we need a fair handling for all app owners. ask your Mod yahoo for example if he would like to be featured?





[/quote]of course I would like my game bubblesbit to be featured but attacking betterbers doesn't get my game featured. I understand your frustrations on wanting to be a featured app and I agree that some apps that were featured didnt deserve it but you might try to contact the new mp team to find out how to go about getting your app featured rather than piss ppl off in this thread.

[Blazed]

Okay yeh, I agree for investors that is fair, so that is indeed a good reason.

Actually I have even considered "hiding" BB/MP from my site since technically I should qualify it as "new site" :X But at this point I will probably merge the stats and perhaps add some kind of notice that MP has new owners.



BTW, do you guys have already a public cold address? Also I am personally wondering who is (or will be) holding the cold wallet?

Our cold address:
1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5

(https://blockchain.info/address/1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5)



Our hot wallet contains an ample amount of Bitcoin to ensure speedy withdrawals.

Who controls that address? As in who has access to move funds etc..?

[moneypot]

Okay yeh, I agree for investors that is fair, so that is indeed a good reason.

Actually I have even considered "hiding" BB/MP from my site since technically I should qualify it as "new site" :X But at this point I will probably merge the stats and perhaps add some kind of notice that MP has new owners.



BTW, do you guys have already a public cold address? Also I am personally wondering who is (or will be) holding the cold wallet?

Our cold address:
1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5

(https://blockchain.info/address/1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5)



Our hot wallet contains an ample amount of Bitcoin to ensure speedy withdrawals.

Who controls that address? As in who has access to move funds etc..?

Matt is currently in control of the address. We are planning on switching to a Multi-Sig set up in the near future to protect against a "hit by bus" scenario.

[WEBcreator]

Our cold address:
1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5

(https://blockchain.info/address/1CwcVUK7DKKB6KCCxBbjGh2fJScGmbCX5)



Our hot wallet contains an ample amount of Bitcoin to ensure speedy withdrawals.

Sorry I dont want to be a jerk on this especially when people are having holidays but there are 98 btc currently at investment and your cold wallet has less than that. Also to ensure safety for withdrawal you need to have maybe atleast 10 % more of the investment amount at the cold wallet

[kaykawa]

Investment = Cold Wallet + Hot Wallet

[Falconer]

Investment = Cold Wallet + Hot Wallet

Not everything from hot wallet comes from investment, in some sites the deposits of player will stay in the hot wallet too for some period of time help to faster the withdrawal process so some big or decent amount of withdrawal doesnt need to be always comes from the cold wallet instead