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December 04, 2015, 09:55:51 PM
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Could you explain to me why no other organization promoting free trade is, simultaneously, pimping scam/phishing websites, selling used rubbers, and promoting ponzis?
They do not, and neither does this site. Allowing those things to be posted here and kept here is part of preventing scams. It is preserving the evidence. If all scams were moderated and then deleted, then those users posting them could potentially could scam later because there is no evidence (thread with all of the evidence would have been deleted) remaining linking them to the scam. At that point, it would all just be the accusers' word against the scammer's. By keeping threads about those sites here, the evidence is kept, the OP is negged, and the evidence can be used in the future to link other accounts to the same scammer and prevent future scams.

AFAIK phishing sites and sites that have malware are removed.

What is wrong with selling used stuff? By no means are accounts being marketed as new, that is completely impossible. Since when has selling used goods been a bad thing?

The forum does not promote ponzis. In fact most ponzi operators are immediately negged, but as I said before, their threads are being kept as those threads can provide evidence. If you find a thread about a ponzi and you can't see the big red "Warning: trade with caution" under the poster's name and you are scammed and lose money, that is entirely your fault. The only reason the investor based games subforum exists is to keep all of those ponzis in the same location and so that all of them can get the same universal warning that those sites are gambling and/or scams.
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December 04, 2015, 11:32:53 PM
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I hereby ban account sales here and on all other forums. Now go forth and do evil no more.

That should do it, right?

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December 04, 2015, 11:48:46 PM
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Could you explain to me why no other organization promoting free trade is, simultaneously, pimping scam/phishing websites, selling used rubbers, and promoting ponzis?
They do not, and neither does this site. Allowing those things to be posted here and kept here is part of preventing scams. It is preserving the evidence. If all scams were moderated and then deleted, then those users posting them could potentially could scam later because there is no evidence (thread with all of the evidence would have been deleted) remaining linking them to the scam. At that point, it would all just be the accusers' word against the scammer's. By keeping threads about those sites here, the evidence is kept, the OP is negged, and the evidence can be used in the future to link other accounts to the same scammer and prevent future scams.
Let me see if I follow:
This forum creates a sub for ponzi schemes, allows them to buy trusted senior accounts and promote themselves via banner ads (i.e. provides them with all the tools they need to operate), and then, if these illegal ponzis turn out to be ...illegal ponzis, ~catch breath~ AND if the operators return to do it again, the evidence will be right here, to be used to catch the criminals leave them a negative rating?
Tell me, how many times was the evidence this public ledger of shame ever useful in reuniting victims with their coins?

Bitcointalk must be the craziest, longest-running honeypot/entrapment scheme on record, no?

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AFAIK phishing sites and sites that have malware are removed.
You mean, the evidence is deleted, so that the scammer could return and try again? Shocked

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What is wrong with selling used stuff? By no means are accounts being marketed as new, that is completely impossible. Since when has selling used goods been a bad thing?
What's wrong with selling used stuff? It depends what the used stuff is, doesn't it?
Some feel that selling used passports, used identities, and even pre-watched child porn might not be the best idea. You may disagree.

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The forum does not promote ponzis. In fact most ponzi operators are immediately negged, but as I said before, their threads are being kept as those threads can provide evidence. If you find a thread about a ponzi and you can't see the big red "Warning: trade with caution" under the poster's name and you are scammed and lose money, that is entirely your fault. The only reason the investor based games subforum exists is to keep all of those ponzis in the same location and so that all of them can get the same universal warning that those sites are gambling and/or scams.
Please understand that sort of thing can get you some serious time. Running a shooting gallery, for instance, would. Even if you tell the nice judge that had you not provided your service, the junkies would shoot up in playgrounds, and you sold drugs at your bangasorium only as a means of containment, and to avail LEO with evidence when needed.

Protip: A sign saying "SHOOTING DOPE MAY BE DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH, AND I MIGHT SELL YOU SOME RAT POISON INSTEAD OF H -- CAVEAT EMPTOR!" may not be enough to get you a [used] "get out of jail free" card.

I hereby ban account sales here and on all other forums. Now go forth and do evil no more.

That should do it, right?

Right. now go to auctions and digital goods subs, and nuke users selling accounts.
Get back to me when done Smiley
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