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December 05, 2015, 11:35:03 PM |
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Yeah. There's nothing much to worry about. The risk of the owner running with your Bitcoins is very very small if you play with reputable sites like PRC and Primedice. They are very well known and would lost a lot by running with your coins. Alternatively, look for sites which uses moneypot API. They have no control of your coins and can't cheat either. Moneypot looks trusted enough. I'm not too sure with the new owners but I would trust all of them.
Yeah this is a very good point about trying to find sites that use moneypot. Hopefully as time goes on, more online casinos will be forced to use this type of API system since it seems to be the most trust form handling money on a gambling site. Of course, since there are only a couple sites that use this system, it's not to say that sites that don't use moneypot are scam sites; but as time goes on, there will be a need for these sites to evolve and use this API system in order to remain "credible". do take note that moneypot recently is gonna change owners. although the trust issue may be there again, but the new team member seems quite reputatable too but still it is safe to be more aware of it.
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December 06, 2015, 06:12:06 AM |
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Gambling and Bitcoin is a match made in heaven.
Fast deposits. Fast withdrawals/payouts. No ID or residence verification. No cc charge-backs to worry about for gambling sites.
Also provably fair games.
Bitcoin has the potential of being the future of gambling.
Bitcoin will be the future of gambling. The benefits to the player and the operator far supersede fiat currency just as Junko has pointed out.
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December 06, 2015, 11:42:25 AM |
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I agree that Gambling is definitely business which help Bitcoin and Bitcoin help Gambling. It`s pretty easy and there is a anonymity if someone preffer it.
How can you say gambling help bitcoin? Because without any gambling bitcoin will still be used in some trading so it will work fine too
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December 06, 2015, 11:51:39 AM |
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I agree that Gambling is definitely business which help Bitcoin and Bitcoin help Gambling. It`s pretty easy and there is a anonymity if someone preffer it.
How can you say gambling help bitcoin? Because without any gambling bitcoin will still be used in some trading so it will work fine too Gambling can help Bitcoin because it is huge market!!A very huge market! And compared with other financial systems it is much easier and faster and of course cheaper to use Bitcoin.Furthermore not much personal informations are needed.Less hassle and comfortable to use. Every market or industry where Bitcoin can be applied will help to spread it out for the masses and therefore increase it's value. Gambling, remittances, porn, e-commerce are just a few big markets where Bitcoin will grow a lot!
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December 06, 2015, 12:41:56 PM |
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Gambling has helped bitcoin so much! I go to a lot of gambling forums like SBR and RX and once the books started taking bitcoin as a payment threads starting popping up everyday asking how bitcoin works and how to get it.
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December 06, 2015, 01:36:04 PM |
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I agree that Gambling is definitely business which help Bitcoin and Bitcoin help Gambling. It`s pretty easy and there is a anonymity if someone preffer it.
How can you say gambling help bitcoin? Because without any gambling bitcoin will still be used in some trading so it will work fine too Gambling can help Bitcoin because it is huge market!!A very huge market! And compared with other financial systems it is much easier and faster and of course cheaper to use Bitcoin.Furthermore not much personal informations are needed.Less hassle and comfortable to use. Every market or industry where Bitcoin can be applied will help to spread it out for the masses and therefore increase it's value. Gambling, remittances, porn, e-commerce are just a few big markets where Bitcoin will grow a lot! I think your saying is that bitcoin help them because it is easy to use. If they applied in their market may be they can do many things but gambling can't help bitcoin to become more attractive. People using bitcoin for gambling because they need to be anonymous so it safe to gamble
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December 06, 2015, 02:43:47 PM |
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I agree that Gambling is definitely business which help Bitcoin and Bitcoin help Gambling. It`s pretty easy and there is a anonymity if someone preffer it.
Yeah it does, it's like free advertisement for bitcoin, and the casino owners make money of off that. It's really nice to see how bitcoin and gambling go great together, but of course remember to gamble in moderation.
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December 06, 2015, 02:53:49 PM |
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Yeah. There's nothing much to worry about. The risk of the owner running with your Bitcoins is very very small if you play with reputable sites like PRC and Primedice. They are very well known and would lost a lot by running with your coins. Alternatively, look for sites which uses moneypot API. They have no control of your coins and can't cheat either. Moneypot looks trusted enough. I'm not too sure with the new owners but I would trust all of them.
Yeah this is a very good point about trying to find sites that use moneypot. Hopefully as time goes on, more online casinos will be forced to use this type of API system since it seems to be the most trust form handling money on a gambling site. Of course, since there are only a couple sites that use this system, it's not to say that sites that don't use moneypot are scam sites; but as time goes on, there will be a need for these sites to evolve and use this API system in order to remain "credible". The only potential problem is that the funds are centralised with moneypot. This is essentially putting all the trust into moneypot and trusting them to not run away. I would prefer using moneypot with sites that are less well known but I'm fine with sites like Primedice. Moneypot is great for 0 fee when moving funds between casino though.
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December 06, 2015, 03:20:43 PM |
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One of the killer aspects of the Bitcoin + gambling combination is the fact that you don't even need to show any credentials to start gambling your money, if you compare gambling with Bitcoin vs gambling with money, you will know that to gamble with your local currency you need to give several details about yourself which is annoying, with BTC you go right on the game.
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December 06, 2015, 03:42:25 PM |
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gambling and bitcoin is nice combination with bitcoin, everyone can do online gambling instanly with anonymous at the same time for avoid from scams, gambling only at more trusted/recommended site is a better choice and for avoid from hacks, using second security verification like google 2fa is a nice choice
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December 06, 2015, 06:45:17 PM |
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Bitcoin can go with any online payment service, not just gambling. My main concern with this thread was the fact that gambling sites dissapear etc.
Perhaps we should have an audit by the bitcoin.org foundation for every bitcoin related service.
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December 06, 2015, 06:50:57 PM |
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Gambling and bitcoin is two very different things. Gambling is a method where people become broke very quickly.
Bitcoin on the other hand is just a currency like gold.
this is true and a game of chance can also make you rich quickly ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 06, 2015, 06:52:20 PM |
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bitcoin make easy when i want to gamble in one sites because is really easy using bitcoin. "bitcoin and gambling is perfect combination" ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 06, 2015, 07:01:36 PM |
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gambling and bitcoin both are getting benefits from each other, because after they started bitcoin as their payment option they got more gamblers on their traffic , but it is true that bitcoin gambling sites are getting more famous as they are not asking any verification or identification details , you just have to bet and deposit and win and withdraw like in directbet.eu, where you dont even have to create a username just bet and deposit the bitcoin and if win you will get setteled in your wallet back
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December 06, 2015, 07:58:21 PM |
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Bitcoin can go with any online payment service, not just gambling. My main concern with this thread was the fact that gambling sites dissapear etc.
Perhaps we should have an audit by the bitcoin.org foundation for every bitcoin related service.
Yes i think you are right Sir. Many sites are looking like a scam these days. They run away with our money and everything goes on like nothing happend. Top stop this we need some regulation.
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December 06, 2015, 08:23:54 PM |
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The match is perfect however think about the industry. The nature of bitcoin (anon and very easy to sent/receive) makes it interesting for scammers. This is not just for gambling, but involves every transaction with bitcoin.
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December 06, 2015, 08:53:49 PM |
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Bitcoin can go with any online payment service, not just gambling. My main concern with this thread was the fact that gambling sites dissapear etc.
Perhaps we should have an audit by the bitcoin.org foundation for every bitcoin related service.
Yes i think you are right Sir. Many sites are looking like a scam these days. They run away with our money and everything goes on like nothing happend. Top stop this we need some regulation. Exactly, this is my main concern. Sure gambling is just another thing were scammers can do their nasty things, but some kind of regulation would protect newbie's much better. It will serve bitcoin trustworthyness a lot.
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December 07, 2015, 01:41:18 AM |
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Con Look at some dice sites, cloud mining sites that ust dissapeared with consumers money.
Since it is about money I am interested in your opintion, Is the combination of gambling and Bitcoin good?
I don't think dice sites running away with money is a very big concern as most dice sites have more to gain by staying. Also, more dice sites are using the moneypot API, which makes it hard to run off with the bitcoin. However, I do think that people ruining their lives because of gambling is a concern.
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December 07, 2015, 02:37:28 AM |
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Bitcoin can go with any online payment service, not just gambling. My main concern with this thread was the fact that gambling sites dissapear etc.
Perhaps we should have an audit by the bitcoin.org foundation for every bitcoin related service.
Even if they try and audit a site, if they have the malicious attempt to run away with bitcoins, they will find a way in some way if a lot of people start investing there and trusting the site. It's more prevalent with investing sites, but can be done by anyone else easily if they really feel they want too. Though I think if you get that much traffic into your site by being trustworthy, the person will probably be able to make more money in the long run of things if they run things smoothly and have house edge on their side.
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December 07, 2015, 03:40:02 AM |
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I agree that Gambling is definitely business which help Bitcoin and Bitcoin help Gambling. It`s pretty easy and there is a anonymity if someone preffer it.
How can you say gambling help bitcoin? Because without any gambling bitcoin will still be used in some trading so it will work fine too Gambling can help Bitcoin because it is huge market!!A very huge market! And compared with other financial systems it is much easier and faster and of course cheaper to use Bitcoin.Furthermore not much personal informations are needed.Less hassle and comfortable to use. Every market or industry where Bitcoin can be applied will help to spread it out for the masses and therefore increase it's value. Gambling, remittances, porn, e-commerce are just a few big markets where Bitcoin will grow a lot! Everyone knows that gambling is a very very huge market but although they are huge they can't help much to improve the popularity of bitcoin because bitcoin is used limited for gambling only. It cant do much about their price. Actually this is nothing to lose for them
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