Hilarious bots posting nonsense: what's the point?

[Cateinyard]

It would be good idea to restrict newbs from opening new topic out side of newbies section. That would prevent lot of spam, begging and scam attempts.

It is a good idea. For newbies, we have lots to learn, it is better not to be able to create a new thread. There are a lot of information in the forum already.

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[Jeremycoin]

Just a troll trolling. They get nuked within seconds so just ignore them.

But sir, they/he/she keep doing it 'til now.
How can these Brand New(s) keep signing up a bunch of new accounts here?

[hilariousandco]

Just a troll trolling. They get nuked within seconds so just ignore them.

But sir, they/he/she keep doing it 'til now.
How can these Brand New(s) keep signing up a bunch of new accounts here?

With bots. Not difficult to create an account here and he's been doing it for months on and off. He's created thousands of accounts but they all meet the same fate pretty quickly.

[stan.distortion]

It would be good idea to restrict newbs from opening new topic out side of newbies section. That would prevent lot of spam, begging and scam attempts.

That would be then unfair for those newbs who are here not to scam or spam but actually learn and want to interact with the bitcoin community.  I do think that newbies shouldn't be allowed to create a thread on the market place where scam attempts are happening most other than that, I don't think there are other places where they shoudn't be allowed to participate in.

I think it's a good idea. I know a forum that has a restriction to Newbies where they can't post anywhere unless to the specified section where they can ask questions and look around how the forum goes and until they reached a certain Activity, they can't post to an area like Marketplace.

I would go even further. I would change rules so that you can't post anywhere except in the beginners&help section until you don't have a 28 activity points. This would prevent majority of the forum misuse in my opinion!

Well it might prevent it from being spread around the rest of the forum but the entire Beginners and Help section would then just be filled with people spamming rubbish just passing the time till they had 28 activity and it would put most people off if they had to wait a month just to be able to participate in the rest of the forum. That sub was already pretty bad when we used to make them make a few posts and wait a few hours so this would be exponetially worse.

Yes I agree this would trash a begginers&help section. Then again we might ask ourselves a question, should we sacrifice one thread for a good of the whole forum.

Or should we find some other solution, creating a thread just for these trashy posts but then we would essentially not be letting new people post for a month.

I don't know, I am just thinking out loud.

I thought it made sense when it was in use but if it was getting endless spam it would make the noob area almost unreadable and give a bad impression, maybe noob posts only visible to full members? That could also improve the quality of support noobs receive as there was a fair bit of amplification of misconceptions when I was spending time in that section.

Something else I miss is the highlighted "ignore" button, it seemed a fairly reliable indicator but maybe it was being gamed, the current trust system certainly is but that's another story.

EDIT: That ignore button, I'm assuming mods get a number of ignores count for a user (or some function of it, ignores per month or uses of show/hide), that count linked to the time between posts counter could cut spam... or ramp up new spammer account creation :/

[LFC_Bitcoin]

With bots. Not difficult to create an account here and he's been doing it for months on and off. He's created thousands of accounts but they all meet the same fate pretty quickly.

You have to wonder why though don't you, literally what's the point?

Surely he can't be getting paid for the trolling, FUD etc because it's not even successful making people sell & doesn't make the price go down based on his scare mongering etc.

Maybe he was paid before with the NLC account because it was a fairly high ranked account, senior or hero if I remember rightly, FUD coming from that account may have scared newbies into selling or not buying. Surely now though with all the low ranking accounts/shills/sock puppets it's pointless?

What the hell does he get from it?

He's obviously pretty tech savvy, his grammar is really good & at times seems pretty intelligent. He's really wasted on here, the amount of effort he puts in here he could do something constructive if applied elsewhere.

[okae]

Well what im trying to do is to use the "report to moderator" as much as i can, i just hope that moderators do not become tired about me by reporting them all

Will be good if everybody try to "help" them in that way.

about, what's the point?, well i think that maybe they are doing it "for fun", because they do not gain anything by it, but dunno.

[Fwdxlsh]

I've seen them around too.

[RealBitcoin]

There are always ways but it's about finding a balance without punishing everyone else to harshley but things are being discussed.

A good captcha is needed when register, the forum registration has a shitty captcha that can probably be overpassed by any amateur hacker, and then send bots to register thousands of accounts.

[InvoKing]

There are always ways but it's about finding a balance without punishing everyone else to harshley but things are being discussed.

A good captcha is needed when register, the forum registration has a shitty captcha that can probably be overpassed by any amateur hacker, and then send bots to register thousands of accounts.

funcaptcha for example? since the others are bypassed by bots without exception.
btw i noticed few spam posts in the chinese section, didn't report it but here is an example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=681489;sa=showPosts
i saw another one deleted before few hours with repetitive sentences but i think it is made by a human not a bot

[Sir_lagsalot]

They are either for a sort of revenge, or the spammers are purposely making so many bots in the hope that the admins will miss one, and the spammer can sell the account before it gets nuked.

[Kakmakr]

I have seen this type of bots on another forum too, they start out with garbage content <Think this is the testing phase> and then it gets replaced with Ad spamming. I was a moderator on that forum and it made me crazy to clean up all those posts manually.

I have to say, the mods on this forum are doing a damn fine job, protecting us from what could potentially be, Spam Hell.

[Spoetnik]

Here is another obvious bot account = joshuatee

[aigeezer]

I have seen this type of bots on another forum too, they start out with garbage content <Think this is the testing phase> and then it gets replaced with Ad spamming.

That is my take, fwiw. It is perhaps some kind of stress testing, probing for weakness, feasibility test, proof of concept, Lorem Ipsum... with the "real thing" to follow as it matures. Troll Evolution in action, I suppose.

In that vein, I've been fascinated watching the DASH altcoin ANN thread held hostage by a few trolls for many months now. A weird symbiotic relationship/truce seems to have built between the real posters (who say they value the trolls' page count boost) and the trolls (who value the white noise). Along the way, the trolls learned to report the real posters whenever the latter inadvertently broke a rule (short post, for example), but the real posters did not learn to report the trolls because the latter were usually on Ignore, and people don't report what they don't read. Cat and mouse reminder that trolls can and do learn how to use a site's own rules against it.

This isn't your grampa's trollfest any more. I'm glad I'm not a mod!         

[pereira4]

I just saw this, here's another thread, please delete it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278250.0

Just report it.

Just a troll trolling. They get nuked within seconds so just ignore them.

But what trolling is this? For me trolling is signing in and saying how Bitcoin is doomed and everyone should just sell their coins because it's going to crash, but those guys don't even feel human, it's like automated random gibberish from a bot.

Well they are both bots but these bots probably belong to NLC who normally does post the bitcoin is doomed trolling shit but he's just changed it up now. Not sure why but maybe the randomness is his way of trying to get around being auto-nuked.

Lol at first I thought you meant hilarious as in hilariousandco(Global Mod guy). This has been discussed in: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275923.0
The agenda is I guess "revenge" , it was previously posting begging threads which were swiftly deleted by nuke bots, but as the content is not changing randomly it has to be done manually, so yeah, to annoy mods.

Oh so it's just to annoy mods I guess, what a cunt.

If it is NLC then he's just annoyed that he got banned for posting the same nonsense and this is just his way of protest but if he's trying to annoy the mods then he's going about it the wrong way seeing as mods get paid to clean up his mess.

He's doing this manually, you say? 

No.

Who is NLC and what is the backstory? im curious now. Btw, I have checked in the members tab, ordered in date of registration, and the registration of new bot accounts is getting out of hand:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;desc;start=0

Just today, there are 20 pages and most of the accounts are the same bot, easily recognizable in the nicknames.

[hilariousandco]

Who is NLC and what is the backstory? im curious now. Btw, I have checked in the members tab, ordered in date of registration, and the registration of new bot accounts is getting out of hand:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;desc;start=0

Just today, there are 20 pages and most of the accounts are the same bot, easily recognizable in the nicknames.

NotLambchop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263109 (amongst others). Speculation troll who had his account(s) banned but seems to want his main one back and this botspam is his way of trying to do so (but it's not going to work).

[theymos]

Well what im trying to do is to use the "report to moderator" as much as i can, i just hope that moderators do not become tired about me by reporting them all

That's definitely fine. When a post is deleted, the reports on that post are automatically marked "handled", so it's no extra work for mods. And if you happen to see something that mods don't, it helps.

At the same time, it is unlikely that these posts will be missed for very long, so don't worry too much about reporting them.

[Wapinter]

It happens everywhere we better get used to it If everything goes smoothly what would keep mods buzy here

[Straux]

Just a troll with some sort of grudge against Theymos, I guess. Giving him and his moods/admins a hard time.

But now Theymos has a few bots of his own, they get nuked within the minute.

[stan.distortion]

Who is NLC and what is the backstory? im curious now. Btw, I have checked in the members tab, ordered in date of registration, and the registration of new bot accounts is getting out of hand:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;desc;start=0

Just today, there are 20 pages and most of the accounts are the same bot, easily recognizable in the nicknames.

NotLambchop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263109 (amongst others). Speculation troll who had his account(s) banned but seems to want his main one back and this botspam is his way of trying to do so (but it's not going to work).

That guy was a case-study for anyone interested in psychology, absolutely no consciences and far from stupid. I'd wondered where he'd gone and his last posts answered that one fairly quickly, hard to know where the line is when it comes to free speech but he didn't leave room for doubt. There's a fair number of accounts that remind me of him, same writing style and use of images that play on the subconcience but only one or two on the same kind of level, a scary individual and glad he's gone.

Free speech seems to be the real issue, what's acceptable and what's not and that's not something that can be written down in black and white, some folks could find NLCs posts perfectly acceptable while others would be offended by an out of place comma. Forums would have to evolve an awful lot to accommodate that and allow a natural formation, separation and interlinking of communities, it's unlikely it'll ever be perfect and without that there will always be some degree of tension.

[pereira4]

It seems that either the creation of new bots is now stronger or mods are away, we have right now tons of threads in the main forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282238.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282246.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282250.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282253.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282247.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282255.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282257.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282241.0

Clean this mess please