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May 27, 2013, 05:01:01 AM
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let me quickly retry .3, can i get a link? sanity check.

https://bitmessage.org/download/windows/Archive/

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May 27, 2013, 05:07:40 AM
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Confirmed, 3.0 good, 3.1 no GUI, no crash though.

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May 29, 2013, 09:27:45 AM
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Aetheros ... just wondering if there is a use case [for] a reputation scoring system [with] Bitmessage addresses?

Only about a thousand possible use cases. I've long thought that an actual working distributed web of trust would be as revolutionary as the Internet: imagine having a complete stranger walk up to you on the street outside your home and say, "Hey man, Can I borrow your keys like right now?" and you hold your phones up next to each other, a light turns green, you check to make sure he matches the picture on your phone, and you hand him the keys.

For Bitmessage alone it means getting rid of the PoW for identities who are sufficiently trusted, eliminating spam entirely, and obviously integration with other systems which depend on feedback and trust of identities.

As far as implementation of the distributed web of trust, I'm not sure how it would work but there does appear to be a lot of research on the topic. We could use someone who can recommend some set of papers to read first since there is so much.
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June 01, 2013, 11:34:46 PM
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Bitmessage doesn't seem to be playing very well with Tor. It's giving all sorts of warnings.

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June 02, 2013, 12:34:14 PM
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Aetheros ... just wondering if there is a use case [for] a reputation scoring system [with] Bitmessage addresses?

Only about a thousand possible use cases. I've long thought that an actual working distributed web of trust would be as revolutionary as the Internet: imagine having a complete stranger walk up to you on the street outside your home and say, "Hey man, Can I borrow your keys like right now?" and you hold your phones up next to each other, a light turns green, you check to make sure he matches the picture on your phone, and you hand him the keys.

For Bitmessage alone it means getting rid of the PoW for identities who are sufficiently trusted, eliminating spam entirely, and obviously integration with other systems which depend on feedback and trust of identities.

As far as implementation of the distributed web of trust, I'm not sure how it would work but there does appear to be a lot of research on the topic. We could use someone who can recommend some set of papers to read first since there is so much.
Some background about bitcoin-otc:
http://privwiki.dreamhosters.com/wiki/Distributed_Web_of_Trust_Proposal_2


yes excellent !!

DO IT ! Smiley

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June 02, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
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Bitmessage doesn't seem to be playing very well with Tor. It's giving all sorts of warnings.

Works without any problems..

TOR just warns you that a 3rd party program is using the connection may leak DNS information.

BUT Bitmessage doesnt request any DNS infos..( correct if I am wrong though).

So you are completely safe..BUT it still be nice to get rid of this messages..

Also my nix warns me all the time of an unknown email client using un-encrypted connections...

gotta live with that Smiley

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June 02, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
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There could  dns seeding

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June 03, 2013, 05:37:15 PM
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New update Grin

0.3.2
Bugfix: Remove remaining references to the old myapp.trayIcon
Refactored message status-related code. API function getStatus now returns one of these strings: notfound, msgqueued, broadcastqueued, broadcastsent, doingpubkeypow, awaitingpubkey, doingmsgpow, msgsent, or ackreceived
Moved proof of work to low-priority multi-threaded child processes
Added menu option to delete all trashed messages
Added inv flooding attack mitigation
On Linux, when selecting Show Bitmessage, do not maximize automatically
Store tray icons in bitmessage_icons_rc.py

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June 03, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
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There could  dns seeding

There is but it is disabled when you use a SOCKS proxy (like Tor).

Also, I believe that the latest release will fix your "GUI doesn't display" problem.

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June 03, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
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I know this is a real noob question, but should be easy to answer. I installed 3.1 using the linux instructions here:

https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Compiling_instructions#Linux

I don't know, however, how to easily upgrade. I THINK what I do is go to the directory that contains bitmessage, so in my case

seth@LockBox:~/src$

Then I issue command

git clone https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage origin master

or something like that. Then once it's done downloading the changes I can simply issue this command again

cd $HOME/PyBitmessage/src/ && python bitmessagemain.py

Is that right? Or is there something I'm doing wrong/missing? Thank you!


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June 03, 2013, 07:50:57 PM
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I know this is a real noob question, but should be easy to answer. I installed 3.1 using the linux instructions here:

https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Compiling_instructions#Linux

I don't know, however, how to easily upgrade. I THINK what I do is go to the directory that contains bitmessage, so in my case

seth@LockBox:~/src$

Then I issue command

git clone https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage origin master

or something like that. Then once it's done downloading the changes I can simply issue this command again

cd $HOME/PyBitmessage/src/ && python bitmessagemain.py

Is that right? Or is there something I'm doing wrong/missing? Thank you!



To upgrade use "git pull origin master"

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June 03, 2013, 09:56:10 PM
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I know this is a real noob question, but should be easy to answer. I installed 3.1 using the linux instructions here:

https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Compiling_instructions#Linux

I don't know, however, how to easily upgrade. I THINK what I do is go to the directory that contains bitmessage, so in my case

seth@LockBox:~/src$

Then I issue command

git clone https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage origin master

or something like that. Then once it's done downloading the changes I can simply issue this command again

cd $HOME/PyBitmessage/src/ && python bitmessagemain.py

Is that right? Or is there something I'm doing wrong/missing? Thank you!



To upgrade use "git pull origin master"

Excellent! Thank you!

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June 03, 2013, 09:59:42 PM
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GUI fixed!

Still requesting
X to minimize not exit
Incoming port with proxy

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June 03, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
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PS Why no mailing list blasts?

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June 03, 2013, 10:27:19 PM
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does anyone here want to help me test this thing out? are there any mailing lists? or lists of addresses i can subscribe to? here is my address BM-or9zPodxMUmkrmVVGCSV9xT1AibwdTFK9 if anyone subscribes to me ill publish content just for the hell of it!

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June 03, 2013, 10:32:24 PM
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does anyone here want to help me test this thing out? are there any mailing lists? or lists of addresses i can subscribe to? here is my address BM-or9zPodxMUmkrmVVGCSV9xT1AibwdTFK9 if anyone subscribes to me ill publish content just for the hell of it!

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June 03, 2013, 11:27:55 PM
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does anyone here want to help me test this thing out? are there any mailing lists? or lists of addresses i can subscribe to? here is my address BM-or9zPodxMUmkrmVVGCSV9xT1AibwdTFK9 if anyone subscribes to me ill publish content just for the hell of it!

awesome! im going to try broadcasting something. it may take me a bit because i have to think of something to write first  Tongue

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June 04, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
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Still nothing :/

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June 04, 2013, 12:27:01 AM
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Still nothing :/

err somehow my address changed or i didnt link the right one the first time or something... here lets try this again BM-2DCLDXTLT4RH6Wb2xpHspHFN3fHghVdsLn

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June 04, 2013, 12:29:51 AM
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I have reverted the EXE on the website back to the prior version (0.3.1) because some Windows 7 (and Windows server) users have reported having an issue sending messages with the current version.

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